Would you swap Elmo for Anelka now?

[Worthy4England]

Exactly, an excellent pedigree. Just a shame that his manager(s) didn't have any faith in him

No - his pedegree was "largely does fcuk all".

Did you see him play for any of those clubs?

No more than fleeting bits when he was at Depor - and pretty much every game he played for us.

Let's look at this a little

Roma - Joined Jan 07 - fairly low buy-out option - 3m Euro - They didn't bother at the end of the season

Us - Joined Aug 07 - no idea if we had a buy out clause - generally didn't manage to beat any fcuker - I've seen Matt Taylor go round more defenders. We didn't retain him until the end of his loan period - to give this some perspective, he was hardly a likely Megson signing.

Loaned to Depor who didn't bother after the end of the same season he was supposed to be with us for 12 months for.

All this time he was at Nantes - who kept trying to park him basically anywhere.

Agree with Enfield - his missus was alright though.

[Lofthouse Lower]

I seem to remember there being a clause where had he played 20 games for us then we were obliged to sign him - obviously from your point of view that was a good thing.

I remember seeing him first when he was with Anderlecht and he was genuinely exciting to watch, and when we signed him I remember we were crying out for someone with a bit of pace which seemed to be the only attribute that the lad had. Shame that he wasn't more of a success because I really looking forward to seeing him return to some of his pre-Nantes form.

[Worthy4England]

I seem to remember there being a clause where had he played 20 games for us then we were obliged to sign him - obviously from your point of view that was a good thing.

I remember seeing him first when he was with Anderlecht and he was genuinely exciting to watch, and when we signed him I remember we were crying out for someone with a bit of pace which seemed to be the only attribute that the lad had. Shame that he wasn't more of a success because I really looking forward to seeing him return to some of his pre-Nantes form.

I seem to remember there was a clause like that too. Fortunately we didn't get even half-way near it.

I didn't knock his record at Anderlecht or pre-Anderlecht. Seemed to go off the boil when he went to Nantes. I was excited when we signed him (and Braaten to be honest) because I agree we needed some pace. Don't think at the time we signed Wilhelmsson he was either at the peak of his ability, nor particularly suited to the typs of game Megson wanted to bore the arse off us all with.

Either way, he hardly ripped up any trees anywhere since Anderlecht.

[boltonboris]

I seem to remember there being a clause where had he played 20 games for us then we were obliged to sign him - obviously from your point of view that was a good thing.

I remember seeing him first when he was with Anderlecht and he was genuinely exciting to watch, and when we signed him I remember we were crying out for someone with a bit of pace which seemed to be the only attribute that the lad had. Shame that he wasn't more of a success because I really looking forward to seeing him return to some of his pre-Nantes form.

I seem to remember there was a clause like that too. Fortunately we didn't get even half-way near it.

I didn't knock his record at Anderlecht or pre-Anderlecht. Seemed to go off the boil when he went to Nantes. I was excited when we signed him (and Braaten to be honest) because I agree we needed some pace. Don't think at the time we signed Wilhelmsson he was either at the peak of his ability, nor particularly suited to the typs of game Megson wanted to bore the arse off us all with.

Either way, he hardly ripped up any trees anywhere since Anderlecht.

Wilhelmsson and to an extent Braaten, may have done okay had we had somebody like Coyle at the helm at that time. But looking through that squad we had under Lee, it's a bloody good job Megson went back to basics

[Bruce Rioja]

Every club in the EPl should have at least one swedish player

Just a minute while I ask a Leeds fan about Thomas Brolin!

[Worthy4England]

Every club in the EPl should have at least one swedish player

Just a minute while I ask a Leeds fan about Thomas Brolin!

[FaninOz]

Yes I would if Anelka wanted to play for us as I wouldn't keep Elmander if he doesn't want to comntinue to play for us, I'd sell him now. His ego is getting to big for his head because of his few good games. Very sad situation for me.

[seanworth]

Yes I would if Anelka wanted to play for us as I wouldn't keep Elmander if he doesn't want to comntinue to play for us, I'd sell him now. His ego is getting to big for his head because of his few good games. Very sad situation for me.

I'm sorry I haven't been reading the articles on other teams wanting Elmander but is there any evidence or quotes that seem to indicate Elmander's ego is getting too big for his head or are you just making this up? Has there even been any indications of frustration from the club regarding this contract matter or is your assumption based upon rumour gossip caused by our financial situation, the fact we are a small, club, and other clubs are in desparate need of a striker and he is in form and in the last year of a contract. Oh and that the rags in England love making up gossip to sell papers.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a big ego right now but I haven't heard anything of the slightest indicating that, then again I haven't been reading very much regarding the matter.

[truewhite15]

Yes I would if Anelka wanted to play for us as I wouldn't keep Elmander if he doesn't want to comntinue to play for us, I'd sell him now. His ego is getting to big for his head because of his few good games. Very sad situation for me.

I'm sorry I haven't been reading the articles on other teams wanting Elmander but is there any evidence or quotes that seem to indicate Elmander's ego is getting too big for his head or are you just making this up? Has there even been any indications of frustration from the club regarding this contract matter or is your assumption based upon rumour gossip caused by our financial situation, the fact we are a small, club, and other clubs are in desparate need of a striker and he is in form and in the last year of a contract. Oh and that the rags in England love making up gossip to sell papers.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a big ego right now but I haven't heard anything of the slightest indicating that, then again I haven't been reading very much regarding the matter.

FiO is making it up as he goes along. There haven't been any stories anywhere that suggest an increase in the size of Elmo's ego, and all contract talks thus far, as reported, are being conducted through his agent. From what I've heard, Elmo hasn't even seen anything yet.

[thebish]

Yes I would if Anelka wanted to play for us as I wouldn't keep Elmander if he doesn't want to comntinue to play for us, I'd sell him now. His ego is getting to big for his head because of his few good games. Very sad situation for me.

where on earth is there even a shred of evidence for this ludicrous claim????

[Worthy4England]

Yes I would if Anelka wanted to play for us as I wouldn't keep Elmander if he doesn't want to comntinue to play for us, I'd sell him now. His ego is getting to big for his head because of his few good games. Very sad situation for me.

where on earth is there even a shred of evidence for this ludicrous claim????

Do you not watch it on the telly - it's quite apparent from the replays at some angles.

[HMX]

Yes I would if Anelka wanted to play for us as I wouldn't keep Elmander if he doesn't want to comntinue to play for us, I'd sell him now. His ego is getting to big for his head because of his few good games. Very sad situation for me.

where on earth is there even a shred of evidence for this ludicrous claim????

Do you not watch it on the telly - it's quite apparent from the replays at some angles.

[Alzheimer]

I didn't knock his record at Anderlecht or pre-Anderlecht. Seemed to go off the boil when he went to Nantes. I was excited when we signed him (and Braaten to be honest) because I agree we needed some pace. Don't think at the time we signed Wilhelmsson he was either at the peak of his ability, nor particularly suited to the typs of game Megson wanted to bore the arse off us all with.

Either way, he hardly ripped up any trees anywhere since Anderlecht.

Wilhelmsson has the opposite personality of Elmander. A troublemaker that can be very good with the wind in his back and when the sun shines.In other words he is not PLmaterial. I guess whoever was coach in Bolton at the time realized this after he had met him.
But he did actually play consistently on his loans spells in Roma och Deportivo and if it was just about playing skills then I think he should have got more chances in Bolton.

Brolin was also a troublemaker in Leeds.He refused to play on the position given to him since he was promised to be playing in a playmaker role.Instead he had to play as a winger and an attacker.
However I saw most of Brolins games in Leeds and he wasn't half as bad as people seems to think ( even if he wasn't anywhere near the form that gave him a place in the world team 1994.)Especially not if you compare him to many other Leeds players.
But it is understandable that people had a biased opinion about him, because had a huge ego, was fat as a ***, and cost Leeds a big transfer sum.

He didn't care much for Leeds either though since he paid Leeds from his own pocket so he could go back to Parma.

[CAPSLOCK]

FiO

You really are a bitter owd fcuker

[FaninOz]

FiO

You really are a bitter owd fcuker

Why? I have a view and a perception and on opinion, as do you and everyone else on here. You and others think my and others views that they don't agree with are such that you/they try and insult me/them. Sticks and stones etc .......

Whilst I respect your and others views and don't resort to personal insults even when I may believe that people are talking dog excrement.

Views are views they don't have to be right or wrong, its a free world and you, I and others are allowed to have them and to express them without having people like you resort to personal insults. You have a right to believe that of me and write it but its cheap, nasty, unecessary, unhelpful, pointless, pathetic, etc, etc, etc and has nothing to do with and doesn't contribute anything positive to the thread.

But back to the thread, why would Elmander and his agent be acting as they are over the contract renewal if they both didn't believe that he was now "god's gift to football" and that many other clubs would pay him a fortune to play for them? Isn't that a form of unjustified bigheadedness after two years of underperformance followed by 14 games of excellent performance?

He may be right but shouldn't he respect what Bolton and Coyle have done for him, in standing by him and helping him to his current exhaulted and potentially temporary position, by signing a new contract? If these other clubs do believe that he is worth having they will still want him and he could then help Bolton to get a good price for him, just like Anelka did!

[Lord Kangana]

Whilst I might agree with you about Elmander's agent and his motivation, I'm afraid I've seen nothing in the last three years to suggest Elmander has an "ego".

Indeed, I think thats directly linked to his previous problems, enough to suggest that you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

[FaninOz]

Whilst I might agree with you about Elmander's agent and his motivation, I'm afraid I've seen nothing in the last three years to suggest Elmander has an "ego".

Indeed, I think thats directly linked to his previous problems, enough to suggest that you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Pointless and irrelevant comment, one could say that about any post on this site, and doesn't contribute anything helpful to the debate.

[Hoboh]

If Mandy had an ego problem you'd hear it here first
I will admit I worry what will happen with him if he gets a long term 3yr + contract, 2 years would be the max for me, take it or leave it.

[CAPSLOCK]

he could then help Bolton to get a good price for him, just like Anelka did!

Anelka 'helped' us get a good price by signing an extended contract on more money than he was on

I though the crux of this was that the club weren't in a position/willing to offer such a deal to Elmander

So, just how do you propose Elmander helps Bolton 'like' Anelka did

[Tombwfc]

According to all we know, we've offered him a hefty pay-cut and/or a short term deal.

Because he hasn't crawled over broken glass to sign it immediately, he's an egomaniac who thinks he's Pele.

FiO you take some unneccesary stick at times, but that's fecking bonkers.