What are you watching tonight?

[William the White]

Panorama?

[hi there, i'm chris]

I shall be giving the old WWE a watch tonight. King of the Ring returns, and I used to love KOTR as a kid. Hopefully will be a good one.

On top of that, WWE has actually been more than watchable in recent months, mainly because of Manchester's (or Preston, in real life) own Wade Barrett. First english WWE Champion will be his future title no doubt.

[Bruce Rioja]

Panorama?

Absolutely. That and The Trip.

[P.O.S.]

Panorama?

Absolutely. That and The Trip.

Anyone else think its a shame that Panorama is only on for half an hour now? It's over before they're able to really analyse anything.

But, with all my BBC channels now suddenly missing from my Freeview box, there's no Panorama or The Trip for me tonight, balls.

[keveh]

Channel 4 now, Coppers is in Bolton covering the EDL rally.

[Prufrock]

Garrow's Law on iPlayer. Can't figure out what was in that black looking envelope Sir Arthur got that made him have a paddy and caused Michael Howard to tell him he must be honest with him on Garrow would win? Are we supposed to know?

[Bruce Rioja]

Channel 4 now, Coppers is in Bolton covering the EDL rally.

Look out for William milling into the coppers.

[CAPSLOCK]

It's smellevision

[William the White]

The Accused was McGovern pulling out some familiar stops, but no one does it better than him, in this story of a mother whose son has died in an industrial accident who seeks out the culpable in a search for justice that can only exist beyond the letter of the law...

It was co-authored by Alice Nutter - wasn't she with Anarchist band Chumbawumba getting knocked down, then getting up again, once upon a time?... The song for all Wanderers fans I always thought...

[William the White]

Panorama looked pretty conclusive to me.

Nice moral dilemma between the honest and the expedient... Whether or not we win the bid this time I don't think we should engage with these people as they are now, but form alliances, if we can, with people wishing to clean it up.

And Panorama was right to make the programme and to broadcast it...

My suspicion is that cynicism will prevail, dirty deals and dirty dollars will win the day - but not forever, and those who allow themselves to be tainted with it now will eventually be found out... it's not the crime that gets it out into the open - it's the cover up. We are only part way through this one...

I hope...

[William the White]

Channel 4 now, Coppers is in Bolton covering the EDL rally.

Look out for William milling into the coppers.

Have they focussed on the poor copper with multiple wounds and the vicious, but cuddly, father-of-five yet?

[CAPSLOCK]

No doubt it was edited to suit (eh William) but it appeared the smellies were being nobbers from well before the racist nobbers arrived

[William the White]

No doubt it was edited to suit (eh William) but it appeared the smellies were being nobbers from well before the racist nobbers arrived

Not seen it. What were they doing?

[CAPSLOCK]

Generally wanting to go to places they were told not to and - in the words of me dad - playing the rubber pig

Not the brightest thing to do

[William the White]

Generally wanting to go to places they were told not to and - in the words of me dad - playing the rubber pig

Not the brightest thing to do

Were they being violent or threatening, for the most part, or more irritating, you know?

Did the thin blue line stand tall?

[CAPSLOCK]

Depends what YOU mean by threatening

PC Plod thought it necessary to control their movements to ensure the two sides were kept apart

The irony of it is that without the police present, there'd have been hundreds of them seriously injured

[William the White]

Depends what YOU mean by threatening

PC Plod thought it necessary to control their movements to ensure the two sides were kept apart

Sounds like the programme showed the cops doing their job well and reasonably. And I'm sure there were many examples of that for the programme makers to use.

I also thought it comparatively rare for the police to behave violently and unreasonably, and said so, though there were isolated examples of it, and, certainly, there was one case of 'kettling' that was either a training manoeuvre or just for the cameras... The UAF rightly greeted it with chants of 'This is not a riot...'

The programme makers must have been very disappointed...

[BWFC_Insane]

I thought the police came over pretty badly and in some cases in the program their behaviour was as bad as the idiots they were trying to deal with. Unprofessional is how I'd sum it up.

[Il Pirate]

I thought the police came over pretty badly and in some cases in the program their behaviour was as bad as the idiots they were trying to deal with. Unprofessional is how I'd sum it up.

Spot on with your summary, Insane. How can a copper justify arresting someone, and pretty forceably it must be said, for using foul language (he told the copper to F8ck off); then state he was waiting for the keys for the van so he could put 'this charlie' in? Then the same copper was bleating about 'respect'. From my point of view, the copppers, especially the riot squad, were itching for something to kick off. When it didn't, they decided to get heavy handed by instigating flash arrests in the name of crowd safety................Just F8ck off. Especialy the cnut who claimed he could do whatever damage he could to a member of the public, if he could 'justify' his actions to his superiors. If that member of the public is threatening violence on the police, fair enough, I've no time for two can Van Dammes who want to fight the world, police or public; but a student who was so wet he couldn't punch a hole in a tin of carnation milk, or a middle aged woman holding a cardboard placard? Give it a rest hard man.

[Bruce Rioja]

I thought the police came over pretty badly and in some cases in the program their behaviour was as bad as the idiots they were trying to deal with. Unprofessional is how I'd sum it up.

Absolutely spot-on there for me, fella.