Wiggin

[Gaz Tomorrow]

A game we should have won but enough positives toward the end for Coyle to build on.Holden needs to get properly fit before he comes back in.

not really annoyed with the effort - we did more than enough to win - how on earth we did not score in the last 8 minutes I will never know - pollitt, I guess! - but that's why teams have keepers...

just annoyed at the outcome - we had the beating of them - and could easily have had all 3pts

Exactly. But i don't think we can afford to not capitalise on chances against York. Bound to be a shick result somewhere in the competition and knowing our luck...DOOOOOOOMED! Plus Stoke the week after. We can't afford a first half like that against Stoke.

[Little Green Man]

not really annoyed with the effort - we did more than enough to win - how on earth we did not score in the last 8 minutes I will never know - pollitt, I guess! - but that's why teams have keepers...

just annoyed at the outcome - we had the beating of them - and could easily have had all 3pts

It's the periodic outbursts of hapless defending that worry me the most.

[thebish]

not really annoyed with the effort - we did more than enough to win - how on earth we did not score in the last 8 minutes I will never know - pollitt, I guess! - but that's why teams have keepers...

just annoyed at the outcome - we had the beating of them - and could easily have had all 3pts

It's the periodic outbursts of hapless defending that worry me the most.

what - with our £20million central defender?? surely not!

[Little Green Man]

not really annoyed with the effort - we did more than enough to win - how on earth we did not score in the last 8 minutes I will never know - pollitt, I guess! - but that's why teams have keepers...

just annoyed at the outcome - we had the beating of them - and could easily have had all 3pts

It's the periodic outbursts of hapless defending that worry me the most.

what - with our £20million central defender?? surely not!

Ssshhhhhh! There could be desperate oligarchs reading this.

[CarlosHernandez]

Would like to have seen Elmander go with placement on his 1 on 1s with the keeper. Seemed to blaze them both straight at him.

[Gary the Enfield]

This is shaping up to be a very strange season. Still relatively safe but only 10 points from bottom.

Squeaky bum time?

[TANGODANCER]

Think we have to ignore what's happening elsewhere as regards our own games. Crazy season with nothing much pedictable anywhere. Their goal was the only thing that caught us out tonight and, at the risk of repetition, luck played a big part against us. Davies (K) again got massacred without getting a thing but it was Pollit who was the difference in the end. Could have been 4-1 but for him. Our goal was terrific and great stuff from Moreno. Frustration again more than anything seeing points we should get, slip away. Muamba could have sealed the win but, Muamba is Muamba. On the whole, a good display that didn't get us what it should have done. Could do with a decent win to get the momentum back.

[Tombwfc]

Only 10 points? It'll take most of them months to get that. We're safe.

Disapointing result, but don't understand the booing. Any other day this season we'd have won, but that's what happens when you're reliant on your strikers to get two goals a game to win.

[BWFC_Insane]

Frustrating because they were shite and there for the taking. Especially seeing as they already had their best player in NZogbia out and then Cleverley went off after 10 minutes.

Not sure Elmander could have done much more with either of his chances, both cases he probably hit it too well and Pollitt did very well.

Muamba and Mark Davies simply do not work as a partnership. Davies goes on runs loses the ball and then the opposition break and Muamba gets swamped because he doesn't have the brains to drop a bit further back and block the options off, instead he tries to win the ball and one simple pass opens us up.

To be honest I'm losing patience with Muamba, he can barely make a simple 6 yard pass, leaves us in trouble every single fooking time he gives the ball away, has the touch of a rapist and tonight showed he has absolutely no clue when teams break at him. I know Caps will be on saying that Mark Davies left him isolated at times, which is true, but I think it doesn't take a genious to realise that if Mark Davies goes on a run you'd better fill in behind him. Coyle was going mental on the touchline, they obviously work on it but he couldn't do it. Then on the break four or five times the ball goes to Muamba and you look away instantly because you know whats going to happen. He struggles with the basics. I've given him time because when he's at his best his tackling and harrying are superb. But we're playing 4-4-2 and he has no idea how to control a game, or dominate a midfield. None whatsoever.

We're stuffed as it is, without Holden, he is the key, hope he's back for the next league game if possible.

But I think surely we can find another option to Muamba in midfield, because currently we don't have one. I think Muamba with Holden works better but generally I think in games like Wigan at home a better second midfield player could make all the difference.

Rodrigo looks more and more promising though he needs to find a decent cross.

Oh and I hope Steinsson is back soon as Ricketts was all over the show on the break for their goal. Didn't block runners or press the ball. Not convinced.

We could also do with finding a remedy to poor first halves. We seem always much better second half, although rather that way round than the other.

We definitely need some players inwards though. 4 subs, with no centre backs or central midfielders or strikers on the bench tonight. Bare bones doesn't even cover it!

Still 30 points and we can't complain much at that at this stage. We need to watch the situation at Liverpool with Hodgson aswell. Am sure he'll go and think Coyle will be on their wanted list. Could be interesting times.

[truewhite15]

Tough one. I'm very disappointed in the result, more so with the first half performance, but we've been a second half team all the way through this season.

We should have beaten them today - they lost their best player early on, and ended up playing their 3rd choice goalie...who, yes, pulled off some good saves, but had Elmander been a bit calmer, they'd have been buried - anywhere else but straight down Pollitt's throat and we'd have been away and clear. Add into that the missed headers by Cahill (2), SKD (2 - and he was anything but special today), and Taylor, and the score should have been comfortable for us.

Mark Davies and Muamba do not work in the middle together. Too often, Wigan were waltzing through the centre of the park. Holden has become vital to our game, and that's not a good thing - we need to able to function without him. A new centre midfielder in the Holden mould is a must this window, simply cos we need to be able to play when Super Stu isn't.

I haven't seen most of the incidents again, but from where I was sitting, it seemed as though Phil Dowd was making some very odd decisions in Wigan's favour...

SKD was poor all game today, and that's coming from one of his biggest fans. He needs a rest vs York. And I didn't understand replacing Rodrigo - although Petrov was decent when he came on.

On the positive side - Rodrigo Moreno is absolutely f*cking golden, superstar in the making, just magic. Get the kid signed permanently, Owen.

[Ianmooreslovechild]

This is shaping up to be a very strange season. Still relatively safe but only 10 points from bottom.

Squeaky bum time?

No

[BWFC_Insane]

Tough one. I'm very disappointed in the result, more so with the first half performance, but we've been a second half team all the way through this season.

We should have beaten them today - they lost their best player early on, and ended up playing their 3rd choice goalie...who, yes, pulled off some good saves, but had Elmander been a bit calmer, they'd have been buried - anywhere else but straight down Pollitt's throat and we'd have been away and clear. Add into that the missed headers by Cahill (2), SKD (2 - and he was anything but special today), and Taylor, and the score should have been comfortable for us.

Mark Davies and Muamba do not work in the middle together. Too often, Wigan were waltzing through the centre of the park. Holden has become vital to our game, and that's not a good thing - we need to able to function without him. A new centre midfielder in the Holden mould is a must this window, simply cos we need to be able to play when Super Stu isn't.

I haven't seen most of the incidents again, but from where I was sitting, it seemed as though Phil Dowd was making some very odd decisions in Wigan's favour...

SKD was poor all game today, and that's coming from one of his biggest fans. He needs a rest vs York. And I didn't understand replacing Rodrigo - although Petrov was decent when he came on.

On the positive side - Rodrigo Moreno is absolutely f*cking golden, superstar in the making, just magic. Get the kid signed permanently, Owen.

Spot and on with all of that. Agree completely. Kev Davies was abysmal today apart from winning a couple of knock ons at the end. But he can probably be excused a dissapointing performance given whats going on in his personal life. Don't think we can afford to rest him on Saturday, Klasnic was injured!

[keveh]

Would like to have seen Elmander go with placement on his 1 on 1s with the keeper. Seemed to blaze them both straight at him.

Definitely agree with that one, with his first he'd have been tapping it with the outside of his foot.

It's easy saying that after watching from the stands, but one of them should have been a placement rather than spanking them.

Very disappointed, but you could just tell Wigan were going to get something from the game, god knows how they did it though.

[Tombwfc]

On the positive side - Rodrigo Moreno is absolutely f*cking golden, superstar in the making, just magic. Get the kid signed permanently, Owen.

I thought he took his goal excellently, but outside of that his end product was abysmal. No point beating your man easily and then scuffing your cross along the floor.

He's promising, but still a million miles away from making me think he'd be £5mil well spent.

[James B]

. A new centre midfielder in the Holden mould is a must this window, simply cos we need to be able to play when Super Stu isn't.

would be nice to think we could go out and just do that at a whim but holden is the best signing the club has made since the allardyce era. hard to replicate.

annoyed to hear there was booing but i didn't pay my heard earned to go so maybe being a bit of a nice person abusing those that did. i know i wouldn't have booed if i had tho. with holden injured and chung off on his travel we're finding out now what is obvious. the squad is paper thin. truth is though we could have as easily had 9 pts from the last 3 as getting 1.

[t_o_molloy]

Considering he hasn't played much, I thought McArthur for them looked bloody good.

[keveh]

On the positive side - Rodrigo Moreno is absolutely f*cking golden, superstar in the making, just magic. Get the kid signed permanently, Owen.

I thought he took his goal excellently, but outside of that his end product was abysmal. No point beating your man easily and then scuffing your cross along the floor.
He's promising, but still a million miles away from making me think he'd be £5mil well spent.

My view is between these, I thought that he was brilliant at some points and he didn't waste as much as I thought that he would.

My frustration came when he tried the same move over and over to get past a man, they clocked on to it after the second time but he still persisted.

Amazingly well taken goal though.

[BWFC_Insane]

On the positive side - Rodrigo Moreno is absolutely f*cking golden, superstar in the making, just magic. Get the kid signed permanently, Owen.

I thought he took his goal excellently, but outside of that his end product was abysmal. No point beating your man easily and then scuffing your cross along the floor.

He's promising, but still a million miles away from making me think he'd be £5mil well spent.

He's a striker playing on the wing.

And he did an awful lot more today than Elmander, Taylor and Kevin Davies did. Tracks back well too.

Has pace skill and touch. And on early evidence seems to have the right attitude.

On the evidence I've seen so far I'd say he'd be a very good buy indeed, doubt we can afford him though! And if the fee is 5M then I'd say, compare him with Muamba. I know who I'd rather spend 5M on based on the past few games evidence!

Don't get Bolton fans bashing a 19 year old kid who did more than just about any of our starters tonight. Played Ricketts in a couple of times with some lovely balls.

[jimbo]

On the positive side - Rodrigo Moreno is absolutely f*cking golden, superstar in the making, just magic. Get the kid signed permanently, Owen.

I thought he took his goal excellently, but outside of that his end product was abysmal. No point beating your man easily and then scuffing your cross along the floor.

He's promising, but still a million miles away from making me think he'd be £5mil well spent.

You see, he's left footed, and it's well trendy amongst the gaffers to be playing your wingers on the opposite sides. He did beat the man, then couldn't get the cross over with his right peg. Would have made more sense switching him and Taylor, who will never get to the byline in a million years leaving Taylor able to cut in and ping it with his left peg, and Rodrigo to get down the outside and put balls in.

Or does that make too much sense?

[Lord Kangana]

. A new centre midfielder in the Holden mould is a must this window, simply cos we need to be able to play when Super Stu isn't.

would be nice to think we could go out and just do that at a whim but holden is the best signing the club has made since the allardyce era. hard to replicate.

Aye. Some encouragement and a favourable crowd aside, he is the single reason for us being about 5 places higher than we would be without him. His impact and playing style has reminded me a little of when MacAteer burst into Rioch's team midway through 92-93.

As the Yanks would say, Awesome.