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Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:36 am

I thought it appropriate to start a thread on this game after the sad events of the past few days.

I think it is only fitting that the Reebok is FILLED to the rafters for this game in memory of the great man and I hope any fan who can attend does so to pay respects.

Sometimes football is about more than a game, a result a performance, because for me quite frankly come Monday all that is irrelevant. This game is not about the current team or current players but about remembering someone who, whilst most of us did not see him play or know him, still leaves sadness in our hearts.

But it is important that the crowd celebrate him for what he was on Monday.

And having done a little reading, how ironic that the game is against Chelsea who according to wikipedia, Nat made his league debut for Bolton against.

COYM.
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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:39 am

Category A game means £40 odd
Monday night
On telly

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:40 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:I thought it appropriate to start a thread on this game after the past couple of days sad event.

I think it is only fitting that the Reebok is FILLED to the rafters for this game in memory of the great man and I hope any fan who can attend does so to pay respects.

Sometimes football is about more than a game, a result a performance, because for me quite frankly come Monday all that is irrelevant. This game is not about the current team or current players but about remembering someone who, whilst most of us did not see him play or know him, still leaves sadness in our hearts.

But it is important that the crowd celebrate him for what he was on Monday.

And having done a little reading, how ironic that the game is against Chelsea who according to wikipedia, Nat made his league debut for Bolton against.

COYM.
That was Burnley

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:04 am

Not living in Bolton I have to pick and choose games. Any game that is midweek is going to be very hard to get to/from.
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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by General Mannerheim » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:12 am

Armchair Wanderer wrote:Not living in Bolton I have to pick and choose games. Any game that is midweek is going to be very hard to get to/from.
but nonetheless worth it in this situation?

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:25 am

East Lower wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:I thought it appropriate to start a thread on this game after the past couple of days sad event.

I think it is only fitting that the Reebok is FILLED to the rafters for this game in memory of the great man and I hope any fan who can attend does so to pay respects.

Sometimes football is about more than a game, a result a performance, because for me quite frankly come Monday all that is irrelevant. This game is not about the current team or current players but about remembering someone who, whilst most of us did not see him play or know him, still leaves sadness in our hearts.

But it is important that the crowd celebrate him for what he was on Monday.

And having done a little reading, how ironic that the game is against Chelsea who according to wikipedia, Nat made his league debut for Bolton against.

COYM.
That was Burnley
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... ed-85.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not according to this.

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:52 am

Not according to my granddad!

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:57 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
East Lower wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:I thought it appropriate to start a thread on this game after the past couple of days sad event.

I think it is only fitting that the Reebok is FILLED to the rafters for this game in memory of the great man and I hope any fan who can attend does so to pay respects.

Sometimes football is about more than a game, a result a performance, because for me quite frankly come Monday all that is irrelevant. This game is not about the current team or current players but about remembering someone who, whilst most of us did not see him play or know him, still leaves sadness in our hearts.

But it is important that the crowd celebrate him for what he was on Monday.

And having done a little reading, how ironic that the game is against Chelsea who according to wikipedia, Nat made his league debut for Bolton against.

COYM.
That was Burnley
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... ed-85.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not according to this.
Or this....

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 86299.html#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or wiki.

Perhaps your grandad is thinking of his home league debut?

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by Il Pirate » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:59 am

:cry: It's my 50th birthday on monday. I'm not supposed to know about a party on saturday, or the expensive meal my wife has booked on mon night. Won't even be able to watch it on telly, be a sky+ job. It would be nice to win it for Nat; it would be alltogether more important to win it due to our increasingly precarious position. And it would be a nice prezzie for me too!
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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:08 am

Yeah there was some dispute about his true debut - whether it's his pre-war friendly one or his actual league one.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:11 am

East Lower wrote:Yeah there was some dispute about his true debut - whether it's his pre-war friendly one or his actual league one.
I think Chelsea is acknoweldged as his "league debut". Which is somewhat ironic in my opinion.

I think Bury was his pre-war debut according to most sources.

Will there be a minutes silence or a minutes applause as is the modern trend? Whilst I acknowledge the feeling and reason behind a minutes applause, I still don't think it reaches the poignancy of 20,000 people stood in silence to remember a special person or sad event. Just my feeling on it.

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by Il Pirate » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:22 am

I always consider the traditional silence much more of a show of respect than the applause. The applause thing to me, smacks of Americanism; whoop whoop and all that. Hey! give it up for Randy, he's had a haircut! Feck off. If I want to remember someone, I like to do it quietly.

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:22 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
East Lower wrote:Yeah there was some dispute about his true debut - whether it's his pre-war friendly one or his actual league one.
I think Chelsea is acknoweldged as his "league debut". Which is somewhat ironic in my opinion.
ok - now you've said it twice!!!

no - it's not ironic! at best - it's a vague coincidence.

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:22 am

Il Pirate wrote:I always consider the traditional silence much more of a show of respect than the applause. The applause thing to me, smacks of Americanism; whoop whoop and all that. Hey! give it up for Randy, he's had a haircut! Feck off. If I want to remember someone, I like to do it quietly.

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:25 am

The minute applause is very disrespectful, if you ask me.

Prefer the silence. Much more dignified.

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Post by thebish » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:29 am

East Lower wrote:The minute applause is very disrespectful, if you ask me.

Prefer the silence. Much more dignified.

i'm not sure it is disrespectful - just not sure it is very "British"!

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:44 am

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
East Lower wrote:Yeah there was some dispute about his true debut - whether it's his pre-war friendly one or his actual league one.
I think Chelsea is acknoweldged as his "league debut". Which is somewhat ironic in my opinion.
ok - now you've said it twice!!!

no - it's not ironic! at best - it's a vague coincidence.
Sorry Bish, I misuse that word as is the current trend!

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by thebish » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:04 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
East Lower wrote:Yeah there was some dispute about his true debut - whether it's his pre-war friendly one or his actual league one.
I think Chelsea is acknoweldged as his "league debut". Which is somewhat ironic in my opinion.
ok - now you've said it twice!!!

no - it's not ironic! at best - it's a vague coincidence.
Sorry Bish, I misuse that word as is the current trend!
well.... don't do it again! :spank:

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by seanworth » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:10 am

East Lower wrote:The minute applause is very disrespectful, if you ask me.

Prefer the silence. Much more dignified.
As far as I am concerned it depends on the situation. I could easily see a minute applause being very respectful of Sir Nat. He lived a good long life, and a minutes applause celebrates that fact. If someone dies prematurely or tragically then a moments silence is certainly more respectful and appropriate. I feel that for Sir Nat we should be celebrating the joy he brought to the Bolton Wanderers and the town of Bolton as he gave us many great moments of happiness over the course of his life.

I also understand that most of you will disagree with me, but to each his own.

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Re: Bolton Vs Chelsea

Post by marshall_42 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:04 pm

in many cases the applause is to hide the fact that there is (usually) an element in the crowd that will not observe a minutes silence and organisers get scared of the boo boys ruining the moment. However, in this case I think it may be observed (certainly by all home fans), hopefulyl by away fans too.

Due to Nats passing away in his advanced years and as a celebration of his life, achievements and legendary status as a footballer for both club and country, then applause would be a fitting tribute.

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