Holden

[thebish]

Still waiting to hear how many games we've won without Holden this season. I can only think of Wigan away in the FA cup (and it was a Wigan reserve side).

Look yourself. Gonna have to swap names, clearly you're the only his royal anything around here, your royal-ness. Forgot the board should wait hand and foot on your statistician needs.

"hmm Parker, can I get the passing %s from 2004-5 and compare them like for like year on year with 2010-11 to-date accounting for inflation and Earthquakes"

No need to be a tit. I wasn't expecting anyone to fooking sit there and work it out. I was merely wondering if anyone had an advance on the one game I'd suggested.

last time we played Stoke, Holden was playing - we lost 2-0...

[Wandering Willy]

Fair Play to Johnny Evans, it was a 50/50 challenge with Holden coming off worse but most players wouldn't give a flying feck about the other players but Johnny has given Stuart a call a wished him a quick recovery.

No.

It was a 50/50 ball to be won fairly. Once Evans left the ground feet first it ceased to be a 50/50 challenge and was at the very least reckless. As a professional you should know once you are in the air like that you are more likely to cause injury - that's why it is outlawed.

To suggest everything is OK as Evans has made a phonecall is bollox. Imagine the hyperbole we would be subjected to from Whisky Nose had the roles been reversed and Robbo had knobbled Rooney in similar fashion.

Filthy red scum - nothing less.

[CAPSLOCK]

Davies and Robinson have both tackled like that on more than one occasion

Lets stop playing the victim and get on with it

[thebish]

Davies and Robinson have both tackled like that on more than one occasion

Lets stop playing the victim and get on with it

Bish and CAPS in total agreement shocker!

[Lofthouse Lower]

Davies and Robinson have both tackled like that on more than one occasion

Lets stop playing the victim and get on with it

Bob on.

[thebish]

To suggest everything is OK as Evans has made a phonecall is bollox. Imagine the hyperbole we would be subjected to from Whisky Nose had the roles been reversed and Robbo had knobbled Rooney in similar fashion.

hmmm... to suggest summat is obviously wrong because old rednose would have said it was wrong if it happened to his player is, frankly, ludicrous....

[Choppers]

Anyone berating Evan's is either ridiculously biased, or just plain hypocritical. Absolutely no malice, but the ref made the correct decision. A total 50/50 challenge, and something I'd hate to see lost from the game, two players giving everything to get the ball for their team. Suggesting that Evan's "left the floor" brings to mind horrific flying kick-esque challenges, which this just simply wasn't.

Absolutely gutted about Holden being out for 6 months, but it happens to other teams as well. He's probably been one of (if not *the*) main reasons for our success. Let's just hope Muamba/Mark Davies can work, as we still have everything to play for.

[DJBlu]

I know its probably worth shite at the mo but this will stop the summer stories of him going to another club.

It's a real stinker for him as an individual but he's shown before he can come back from injury. Lets just hope its the same story come September.

[Choppers]

I know its probably worth shite at the mo but this will stop the summer stories of him going to another club.

Y'know, I'd be lying if I said that hadn't crossed my mind too...

[hi there, i'm chris]

Still waiting to hear how many games we've won without Holden this season. I can only think of Wigan away in the FA cup (and it was a Wigan reserve side).

Look yourself. Gonna have to swap names, clearly you're the only his royal anything around here, your royal-ness. Forgot the board should wait hand and foot on your statistician needs.

"hmm Parker, can I get the passing %s from 2004-5 and compare them like for like year on year with 2010-11 to-date accounting for inflation and Earthquakes"

No need to be a tit. I wasn't expecting anyone to fooking sit there and work it out. I was merely wondering if anyone had an advance on the one game I'd suggested.

last time we played Stoke, Holden was playing - we lost 2-0...

If memory serves me correct, Holden had just come back from injury and Coyle played him right wing. Wouldn't have been as affective as he would have been in full fitness and playing center perhaps.

[bobo the clown]

Davies and Robinson have both tackled like that on more than one occasion

Lets stop playing the victim and get on with it

Bish and CAPS in total agreement shocker!

... errrr .... can I join in ?


AND Lofthouse Lower !!

wtf ???

[Lord Kangana]

No.

Enough of this rags love in. If the shoe were on the other foot there would be a witch hunt on for Holden to be banned forever. This from a club who had a player who admitted to trying to end another players career.

Set of bastards. Double bastards. With Ronaldo on top.

[hi there, i'm chris]

Alot of it was the players surrounding the referee shouting at him, as though there was no reason to send him off. Leaves a bitter taste without doubt.

[thebish]

No.

Enough of this rags love in. If the shoe were on the other foot there would be a witch hunt on for Holden to be banned forever.

you are Arsene Wenger and I claim my £5

[fatshaft]

Alot of it was the players surrounding the referee shouting at him, as though there was no reason to send him off. Leaves a bitter taste without doubt.

You must have been watching a different game mate. Giggs had a word, maybe Evra(?) as well, but there was no mass surrounding of the ref at all, absolutely not a typical Man U reaction on this occassion.

[SuperKev14]

fecking dirty c*nt for Evans, Fergie's a c*nt also.

Holden is key to way we play, fecking huge blow for us ffs.

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

It was shockingly poor from Evans- it wasn't a 50-50, Evans was clearly favourite to win the ball because of Lee's overhit pass. A half decent centre half would have nicked it away from Holden and (possibly) taken a sore one himself as Holden challenged. He certainly had no need to go to ground and by doing so suggests to me that it was a cowardly attempt to avoid aforementioned foul against himself.
Unintentional- definately.
a sending off for a reckless and dangerous tackle- definately

[thebish]

It was shockingly poor from Evans- it wasn't a 50-50, Evans was clearly favourite to win the ball because of Lee's overhit pass. A half decent centre half would have nicked it away from Holden and (possibly) taken a sore one himself as Holden challenged. He certainly had no need to go to ground and by doing so suggests to me that it was a cowardly attempt to avoid aforementioned foul against himself.
Unintentional- definately.
a sending off for a reckless and dangerous tackle- definately

I think you need to go and find that child of five...

[CAPSLOCK]

It was shockingly poor from Evans- it wasn't a 50-50, Evans was clearly favourite to win the ball because of Lee's overhit pass. A half decent centre half would have nicked it away from Holden and (possibly) taken a sore one himself as Holden challenged. He certainly had no need to go to ground and by doing so suggests to me that it was a cowardly attempt to avoid aforementioned foul against himself.
Unintentional- definately.
a sending off for a reckless and dangerous tackle- definately

Alternatively, Holden never had a chance of winning the ball

[Tombwfc]

I take it you won't be bothering with Wembley then BWFCI? (Somebody else made similar ridiculous comments in the United match thread too)

Clearly the loss of one (admittedly excellent) player has rendered us utterly incapable of beating Stoke City on neutral ground. Lets save the embarrasment and pull out of the competition while we still have the chance.