West Ham are complete failures! Let's all laugh at 'em!

[thebish]

He didn't say 'had a pop at Tango' he said what he said above - try reading before replying first eh Phil?

he clearly did:

...having a pop at their every post, you know like you do with Tango and LL

nice of you to try and support him back though - gives you a warm best-bud feeling all over... I almost have a tear in my eye...

[Lofthouse Lower]

"at their every post"

not

"at them"

c'mon Phil, try harder

[Zulus Thousand of em]

comparison of relative levels of racism is a dead end.

west ham fans are no more inherently racist than bolton fans.

You've thrown me now, your Eminence. You're as slippery as a Coalition spokesperson.

[thebish]

"at their every post"

not

"at them"

c'mon Phil, try harder

you're trying to draw some kind of distinction between "having a pop at Tango" and "having a pop at Tango's posts"?? physical contact isn't possible on a forum - the only contact we have is in the medium of "posts" - it is the only way anyone on here could "have a pop" at Tango...

very nice try - but - epic fail!

[boltonboris]

feck me, where's the Yawn emoticon??

[Lofthouse Lower]

Dear me, the uber-pedant strikes again.

What a strange man you are.

[thebish]

comparison of relative levels of racism is a dead end.

west ham fans are no more inherently racist than bolton fans.

You've thrown me now, your Eminence. You're as slippery as a Coalition spokesperson.

you're easily thrown, Zulu

[Zulus Thousand of em]

comparison of relative levels of racism is a dead end.

west ham fans are no more inherently racist than bolton fans.

You've thrown me now, your Eminence. You're as slippery as a Coalition spokesperson.

you're easily thrown, Zulu

I thought it would take me much longer to get this in!

[thebish]

I'm sure that helps Zulu... well done!

seems simple enough to me.

BB and LL tried to put across their belief that west ham fans are more racist than bolton fans

I tried to put across my view that neither is more inherently racist

we weren't getting anywhere good

so I suggested that was a dead end and went on to what I thought might be less confrontational - I described my own local experience of racism and how it is differently expressed in different places, including the East End, which was under discussion.

now - I know you don't like backing up your bullshit claims - but is there actually anything I have said that you think is bullshit - if so - what?

[Zulus Thousand of em]

I'm sure that helps Zulu... well done!

seems simple enough to me.

BB and LL tried to put across their belief that west ham fans are more racist than bolton fans

I tried to put across my view that neither is more inherently racist

we weren't getting anywhere good

so I suggested that was a dead end and went on to what I thought might be less confrontational - I described my own local experience of racism and how it is differently expressed in different places, including the East End, which was under discussion.

now - I know you don't like backing up your bullshit claims - but is there actually anything I have said that you think is bullshit - if so - what?

Pretty much all of it really. (I've tried to let you down gently, but it's difficult.)

[Lofthouse Lower]

If you're taking people to the East End and they're then amazed by a bit of multiculturalism then it suggests to me that you need to choose your friends a little more carefully.

[CrazyHorse]

are you LL's bigger uglier protective brother??

Yeah, like you don't leap to the defence of WtW as soon as anyone so much as quotes him.

And while you've got your pedants hat and tabard on ask yourself why you're now banging on about the people of the East End to justify a sweeping statement about West Ham fans that you made in the first place. They're not the same thing.

[CrazyHorse]

Just saying like.

[TANGODANCER]

Just read all this, and can I expect a crate of Tango pop being delivered soon? I prefer Lucozade, but Tango's quite acceptable.

[thebish]

Just read all this, and can I expect a crate of Tango pop being delivered soon? I prefer Lucozade, but Tango's quite acceptable.

you always did look a little bit orange...

[thebish]

I'm sure that helps Zulu... well done!

seems simple enough to me.

BB and LL tried to put across their belief that west ham fans are more racist than bolton fans

I tried to put across my view that neither is more inherently racist

we weren't getting anywhere good

so I suggested that was a dead end and went on to what I thought might be less confrontational - I described my own local experience of racism and how it is differently expressed in different places, including the East End, which was under discussion.

now - I know you don't like backing up your bullshit claims - but is there actually anything I have said that you think is bullshit - if so - what?

Pretty much all of it really. (I've tried to let you down gently, but it's difficult.)

thought not...

[thebish]

are you LL's bigger uglier protective brother??

Yeah, like you don't leap to the defence of WtW as soon as anyone so much as quotes him.

And while you've got your pedants hat and tabard on ask yourself why you're now banging on about the people of the East End to justify a sweeping statement about West Ham fans that you made in the first place. They're not the same thing.

I reckon most west ham fans are from the East End...

if you disagree - fair enough...

[TANGODANCER]

Just read all this, and can I expect a crate of Tango pop being delivered soon? I prefer Lucozade, but Tango's quite acceptable.

you always did look a little bit orange...

An orange Catholic Wow, that's Guinness Book of Records stuff.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

I'm sure that helps Zulu... well done!

seems simple enough to me.

BB and LL tried to put across their belief that west ham fans are more racist than bolton fans

I tried to put across my view that neither is more inherently racist

we weren't getting anywhere good

so I suggested that was a dead end and went on to what I thought might be less confrontational - I described my own local experience of racism and how it is differently expressed in different places, including the East End, which was under discussion.

now - I know you don't like backing up your bullshit claims - but is there actually anything I have said that you think is bullshit - if so - what?

Pretty much all of it really. (I've tried to let you down gently, but it's difficult.)

thought not...

What part of "pretty much all of it" are you not getting? Reasons? Mostly covered by other posters - but let's just take the 20 year old research document. I did highlight that earlier in the thread, but you didn't respond.

[Lofthouse Lower]

are you LL's bigger uglier protective brother??

Yeah, like you don't leap to the defence of WtW as soon as anyone so much as quotes him.

And while you've got your pedants hat and tabard on ask yourself why you're now banging on about the people of the East End to justify a sweeping statement about West Ham fans that you made in the first place. They're not the same thing.

I reckon most west ham fans are from the East End...

if you disagree - fair enough...

Let it drop man