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[malcd1]

The Mirror suggesting that Coyle is trying to get Sturridge on loan again next season.

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Of course we tried this with Wilshere at the start of this season and failed. Worth a try though especially as young Danny will probably be fifth choice striker at Chelsea.

[thebish]

Players from potentially relegated teams who I wouldn't be averse to signing:

Blackpool - Adam, Vaughan, Matt Phillips, possibly DJ Campbell
Wolves - Jarvis (unlikely), O'Hara, Fletcher, Hammill
Wigan - Cleverley, McCarthy, Watson, N'Zogbia (unlikely), Rodallega
West Ham - Hitzlsperger, Ba, Parker (unlikely), Keane, maybe Obinna and Piquionne
Blackburn - Samba, Phil Jones (unlikely), Santa Cruz, N'Zonzi, Kalinic

Hmmm. Right, so, let me get this right, you name half of the first team players that are currently playing for clubs that are currently facing relegation as being good enough for us.

A couple of questions here;

Has it not ocurred to as to why they're all staring relegation in the face?

Should we not be setting our sights a little higher?

I'm not sure I'd rule out a player simply because his club got relegated (if West Ham got relegated, Scott Parker wouldn't suddenly by crap and beneath us...) as for sights being set higher - nice idea - but depends upon available funds, surely?

the higher-sight players might be loanees - which Coyle has so far managed very well - in fact - as I have suggested before, it would do us no harm at all to promote ourselves as a finishing school for excellent top-4 club loanees - Chelsea and Arsenal must now both have some positive vibes about loaning us players...

the non-loanees, I suspect, will come from such a list as the one jmjhb offers - OR a list of out-of-contracts... Holden aside, Coyle hasn't shown a talent for pulling cheap foreign starlets out of a hat... (though - Holden is a pretty big aside and if he only pulled one more Holden out of a hat - then he'd be ahead!)

I have a feeling this will be a very interesting summer...

[Lofthouse Lower]

We signed Muamba from a relegated side

That hasn't worked out too well as of yet

[Lord Kangana]

[Bruce Rioja]

Players from potentially relegated teams who I wouldn't be averse to signing:

Blackpool - Adam, Vaughan, Matt Phillips, possibly DJ Campbell
Wolves - Jarvis (unlikely), O'Hara, Fletcher, Hammill
Wigan - Cleverley, McCarthy, Watson, N'Zogbia (unlikely), Rodallega
West Ham - Hitzlsperger, Ba, Parker (unlikely), Keane, maybe Obinna and Piquionne
Blackburn - Samba, Phil Jones (unlikely), Santa Cruz, N'Zonzi, Kalinic

Hmmm. Right, so, let me get this right, you name half of the first team players that are currently playing for clubs that are currently facing relegation as being good enough for us.

A couple of questions here;

Has it not ocurred to as to why they're all staring relegation in the face?

Should we not be setting our sights a little higher?

I'm not sure I'd rule out a player simply because his club got relegated (if West Ham got relegated, Scott Parker wouldn't suddenly by crap and beneath us...)

I'm not. I'm ruling out the notion that half their team would be good enough for us. Is that not clear? OK, twice in as many days I need to clarify my point. Clearly I'm difficult to follow and I'll try harder in future.

For me then, let's look at the clubs mentioned and I'll tell you who I think would be a worthwhile addition - as good as/better than what we already have.

Blackpool - Charlie Adam
Wolves - No-one.
Wigan - N'Zogbia
West Ham - Parker
Blackburn - No-one.

[TANGODANCER]

The Mirror suggesting that Coyle is trying to get Sturridge on loan again next season

It would be very nice if it happened but Sturridge, just like Wilshire, will want to get back swimming with the sharks a.s.a.p. Very ambitious and sure of his ability and wants to play at the very top level. Probably eying the top salary level too but can't blame him for that. That's football. I'll be very surprised if he's back here next season. If Chelsea can't ofer him a place he'll get some real attention elsewhere. Hope I'm wrong, but that's how it looks.

[a1]

spend 20-odd mil on sturridge

[jmjhb]

Players from potentially relegated teams who I wouldn't be averse to signing:

Blackpool - Adam, Vaughan, Matt Phillips, possibly DJ Campbell
Wolves - Jarvis (unlikely), O'Hara, Fletcher, Hammill
Wigan - Cleverley, McCarthy, Watson, N'Zogbia (unlikely), Rodallega
West Ham - Hitzlsperger, Ba, Parker (unlikely), Keane, maybe Obinna and Piquionne
Blackburn - Samba, Phil Jones (unlikely), Santa Cruz, N'Zonzi, Kalinic

Hmmm. Right, so, let me get this right, you name half of the first team players that are currently playing for clubs that are currently facing relegation as being good enough for us.

A couple of questions here;

Has it not ocurred to as to why they're all staring relegation in the face?

Should we not be setting our sights a little higher?

Not particularly, most of the players on the list have impressed me at one point or the other, and I feel they would be a decent addition to the squad. I'm trying to be realistic here, which is why I haven't named random European big-name players as 'realistic signings' like deluded Newcastle/Sunderland fans have been doing since the transfer window closed, or saying we should spend £10M+ on a single player when we all know that kind of money isn't going to be there. Clearly, we're going to use the loan market again, but a couple of these listed would further supplement the squad.

If we're setting our sights higher, then obviously there's no point discussing potential targets from the Championship like Pratley then, is there? F*ck it, let's just sign Messi and be done with it.

[Armchair Wanderer]

For me then, let's look at the clubs mentioned and I'll tell you who I think would be a worthwhile addition - as good as/better than what we already have.

Blackpool - Charlie Adam
Wolves - No-one.
Wigan - N'Zogbia
West Ham - Parker
Blackburn - No-one.

Samba at Blackburn as we'll need CB cover/competition.

Also, some Birmingham defenders should they go down and Fellaini at Everton just so we can wear ridiculous wigs.

[HMX]

For me then, let's look at the clubs mentioned and I'll tell you who I think would be a worthwhile addition - as good as/better than what we already have.

Blackpool - Charlie Adam
Wolves - No-one.
Wigan - N'Zogbia
West Ham - Parker
Blackburn - No-one.

Samba at Blackburn as we'll need CB cover/competition.

Also, some Birmingham defenders should they go down and Fellaini at Everton just so we can wear ridiculous wigs.

But the Campo wig is still acceptable

[Lofthouse Lower]

If we signed Samba he'd automatically become our best defender

[BWFC_Insane]

Players from potentially relegated teams who I wouldn't be averse to signing:

Blackpool - Adam, Vaughan, Matt Phillips, possibly DJ Campbell
Wolves - Jarvis (unlikely), O'Hara, Fletcher, Hammill
Wigan - Cleverley, McCarthy, Watson, N'Zogbia (unlikely), Rodallega
West Ham - Hitzlsperger, Ba, Parker (unlikely), Keane, maybe Obinna and Piquionne
Blackburn - Samba, Phil Jones (unlikely), Santa Cruz, N'Zonzi, Kalinic

Hmmm. Right, so, let me get this right, you name half of the first team players that are currently playing for clubs that are currently facing relegation as being good enough for us.

A couple of questions here;

Has it not ocurred to as to why they're all staring relegation in the face?

Should we not be setting our sights a little higher?

I'm not sure I'd rule out a player simply because his club got relegated (if West Ham got relegated, Scott Parker wouldn't suddenly by crap and beneath us...)

I'm not. I'm ruling out the notion that half their team would be good enough for us. Is that not clear? OK, twice in as many days I need to clarify my point. Clearly I'm difficult to follow and I'll try harder in future.

For me then, let's look at the clubs mentioned and I'll tell you who I think would be a worthwhile addition - as good as/better than what we already have.

Blackpool - Charlie Adam
Wolves - No-one.
Wigan - N'Zogbia
West Ham - Parker
Blackburn - No-one.

You've had a bit of a mare there Bruce. Doyle or Jarvis from Wolves would both be good additions. Ba at West Ham looks handy and Noble would be a Coyle type player, from Blackburn Samba, Phil Jones, Hoilett, Pedersen?, wouldn't surprise me either if Coyle wasn't interested in McCarthy from Wigan and quite possibly Vaughan from Blackpool should they go down.

I think the notion of not signing relegated players is flawed. If you're not going to take a proven premiership player like Samba, simply because Blackburn have been fooked over royally by new owners leaving them with someone you've never heard of before in charge, then who would you sign? Championship prospects are risks as are foreign imports.

We won't sign Samba anyways, I expect Blackburn to scrape to safety, especially after we do our usual get a team who hasn't won in ages out of trouble trick there on Saturday. But the point is that relegated teams sometimes have an abundance of decent players who have just been mismanaged or injuries hit the side during the season.

[thebish]

Is that not clear? OK, twice in as many days I need to clarify my point. Clearly I'm difficult to follow and I'll try harder in future.

don't fret too much about it Bruce - I often have to clarify my point - it's just evidence of a vastly superior brain!

[Lord Kangana]

I'm not sure a Samba type player is what we need if we have to repalce Cahill. We've already got a couple of big trundlers, we need someone a bit more like, say, Sam Ricketts. But better. I have a feeling that we already have our centre halves for next year, and regardless of Cahill going will not add to them.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'm not sure a Samba type player is what we need if we have to repalce Cahill. We've already got a couple of big trundlers, we need someone a bit more like, say, Sam Ricketts. But better. I have a feeling that we already have our centre halves for next year, and regardless of Cahill going will not add to them.

Ricketts won't be back till September at the earliest. I can't see us going into the season with only two centre backs. We'll need cover.

Of course it won't be Samba as he'll be very expensive (and is miles better than anything we've got but should he be available will be in demand). But we'll definitely need some sort of cover there, presumably a younger player?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

10 mil mentioned for Cole plus his wages. Have to offload decently to make it a good buy.

They "bought" him on a Bosman ... but I can only imagine his salary.

His salary was the reason he ended up at Liverpool. (...) Lord knows what he thinks now of that spectacularly inept display of brinksmanship.

I'm of a mind to not necessarily dismiss 4 and a half million pounds a year as spectacularly inept. Maybe not what he was hoping for....

By most accounts he could have had £75kpw (£3.9m) at Spurs, his childhood heroes, who have had what might be comfortably described as a better season. He must have been watching those Champions League games through fingers bloodied from punching himself in the face.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I expect Blackburn to scrape to safety, especially after we do our usual get a team who hasn't won in ages out of trouble trick there on Saturday.

Like we did on Sunday?

To spend up to £10mil of the money we get for Cahill on N'Zogbia or Cole would be bordering on negligence. We have two big earning left wingers under contract, but would need at least one striker and a centre half.

Entirely correct up to a certain point. The point being central midfield.

Our squad needs additions in key areas, as well as replacements. The teams going down may have good players in them who can be maximised under a better manager – much like the 10 Wanderers selected against Arsenal who had looked relegation possibilities under Megson. If we didn't look to supposedly inferior teams for pluckable talent, we wouldn't have Stuart Holden.

[Lord Kangana]

The difficulty in trying to predict who we'll sign is the uncertainty of who's staying. If we can keep the overwhelming majority of this squad together, we won't need a vast line-up of signings. Just some better squad palyers, and a first teamer, maybe two.

[BWFC_Insane]

The difficulty in trying to predict who we'll sign is the uncertainty of who's staying. If we can keep the overwhelming majority of this squad together, we won't need a vast line-up of signings. Just some better squad palyers, and a first teamer, maybe two.

I suspect Cahill will be the only one we sell for money (possibly Habsi but that doesn't affect much) and that we'll lose the out of contracts in the main.

Elmander is the question mark I guess.

Either way we'll have a bit of money to spend and some space on the wage bill, hopefully!

[CAPSLOCK]

We might even sign somebody who gets in the first team