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[Lord Kangana]

Like Holden say?

[BWFC_Insane]

We might even sign somebody who gets in the first team

Well lets hope so eh?

I do think this summer is the big defining moment for Coyle.

We're going to lose some talent in Cahill, possibly Elmander and Sturridge as well. He needs to show how he plans to replace it and how he'll spend money here.

He's shown that in terms of loanees he can work the market.

But his permanent deals, Holden aside haven't been that impressive so far. Get it right this summer and we'll be laughing but if it goes wrong, well could be a tough season next time round.

[Worthy4England]

We might even sign somebody who gets in the first team

Well lets hope so eh?

I do think this summer is the big defining moment for Coyle.

We're going to lose some talent in Cahill, possibly Elmander and Sturridge as well. He needs to show how he plans to replace it and how he'll spend money here.

He's shown that in terms of loanees he can work the market.

But his permanent deals, Holden aside haven't been that impressive so far. Get it right this summer and we'll be laughing but if it goes wrong, well could be a tough season next time round.

You are as ever, our little ray of sunshine.

[Lord Kangana]

Aside from Holden? Is that for real? Our most outstanding player be a mile, the one who's injury meant we'd drop like a stone, that one?

Thats like dismissing the signing of Djorkaeff as inconsequential.

And what of Wheater? Now a bad signing? Other than Alonso, who else has he had apart from on loan players? Petrov? The new scapegoat? Say what you like about him, he's played the majority of games in a season thats seen us to 46 points so far and a Semi Final. If he's that shit, lord knows what'll happen if he signs someone decent, we'll probably walk the f*cking league.

[bw@bw]

But the point is that relegated teams sometimes have an abundance of decent players who have just been mismanaged or injuries hit the side during the season.

Saved me 10 minutes of typing exactly that.

Bad management can turn a decent set of players into a lousy team.

Same players under good management can return to form.

We have about a dozen of them.

So I see no reason why OC can't work the oracle on some more.

Top of my list would be Samba - so please lads - stuff them this weekend.

[BWFC_Insane]

We might even sign somebody who gets in the first team

Well lets hope so eh?

I do think this summer is the big defining moment for Coyle.

We're going to lose some talent in Cahill, possibly Elmander and Sturridge as well. He needs to show how he plans to replace it and how he'll spend money here.

He's shown that in terms of loanees he can work the market.

But his permanent deals, Holden aside haven't been that impressive so far. Get it right this summer and we'll be laughing but if it goes wrong, well could be a tough season next time round.

You are as ever, our little ray of sunshine.

I'm quite hopeful actually. I think this is the first proper chance Coyle has had to bring in "his players" and show the vision. He did bring in a few last summer but with the numbers we were carrying that we couldn't shift I guess he was a bit limited.

I think that we need a few changes and hopefully money from the Cahill sale and the reduction of deadwood means we'll have a chance.

I could be worried that we're potentially losing a lot of goals in Elmander and Sturridge but Coyle is thankfully not a manager who will think we can get by with just Kevin Davies, I believe he'll want four strikers no matter what happens.

Only slight concern I have is he'll spend money on Rodrigo who can't get in the side for toffee now and will wait for Sturridge (as suggested in the mirror today) until the season has started to see if he's getting in Chelsea's side (as we did for Wilshere) and if as happened with Wilshere it doesn't happen we'll be left a bit short.

But I think he knows what he's doing. He just has the first proper chance to show it.

But no more Petrov's please!

[BWFC_Insane]

Aside from Holden? Is that for real? Our most outstanding player be a mile, the one who's injury meant we'd drop like a stone, that one?

Thats like dismissing the signing of Djorkaeff as inconsequential.

And what of Wheater? Now a bad signing? Other than Alonso, who else has he had apart from on loan players? Petrov? The new scapegoat? Say what you like about him, he's played the majority of games in a season thats seen us to 46 points so far and a Semi Final. If he's that shit, lord knows what'll happen if he signs someone decent, we'll probably walk the f*cking league.

The point being that aside from Sturridge none of Coyle's other signings were considered by Coyle himself on Sunday to be better than the players Megson signed. And he was really shite and wasted lots of money on dross as you keep telling everyone.

If you think Petrov has been anything other than an absolute waste of presumably a very decent wage then you must be blind. The argument that we're 8th so Petrov must be good is somewhat laughable too.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Only slight concern I have is he'll spend money on Rodrigo who can't get in the side for toffee now and will wait for Sturridge (as suggested in the mirror today) until the season has started to see if he's getting in Chelsea's side (as we did for Wilshere) and if as happened with Wilshere it doesn't happen we'll be left a bit short.

I too am yet to be convinced by Rodrigo - at that price, at least. But I'm less concerned than you are that Coyle will "wait" for Sturridge. I think he'll be aiming to boost the squad in all necessary areas with permanent signings; if we get a loanee then that's fine, but I doubt he'll go through the first month of the season a man short just in case Studger becomes available again.

[BWFC_Insane]

Only slight concern I have is he'll spend money on Rodrigo who can't get in the side for toffee now and will wait for Sturridge (as suggested in the mirror today) until the season has started to see if he's getting in Chelsea's side (as we did for Wilshere) and if as happened with Wilshere it doesn't happen we'll be left a bit short.

I too am yet to be convinced by Rodrigo - at that price, at least. But I'm less concerned than you are that Coyle will "wait" for Sturridge. I think he'll be aiming to boost the squad in all necessary areas with permanent signings; if we get a loanee then that's fine, but I doubt he'll go through the first month of the season a man short just in case Studger becomes available again.

Possibly but he did last season! He said at the fans forum he wanted another midfield player. Turns out we were waiting for Wilshere.

Different situation I know but does worry me that the temptation will be to wait. Thankfully I don't think Coyle would want a season with just SKD and Klasnic as options so he'll be looking for forwards naturally.

[Lord Kangana]

Aside from Holden? Is that for real? Our most outstanding player be a mile, the one who's injury meant we'd drop like a stone, that one?

Thats like dismissing the signing of Djorkaeff as inconsequential.

And what of Wheater? Now a bad signing? Other than Alonso, who else has he had apart from on loan players? Petrov? The new scapegoat? Say what you like about him, he's played the majority of games in a season thats seen us to 46 points so far and a Semi Final. If he's that shit, lord knows what'll happen if he signs someone decent, we'll probably walk the f*cking league.

The point being that aside from Sturridge none of Coyle's other signings were considered by Coyle himself on Sunday to be better than the players Megson signed. And he was really shite and wasted lots of money on dross as you keep telling everyone.

If you think Petrov has been anything other than an absolute waste of presumably a very decent wage then you must be blind. The argument that we're 8th so Petrov must be good is somewhat laughable too.

8 of Megson's signings started The Worst Game In Our History®™. You know, the one that precipitated the need to overhaul the squad completely.At least be consistent.

[BWFC_Insane]

Aside from Holden? Is that for real? Our most outstanding player be a mile, the one who's injury meant we'd drop like a stone, that one?

Thats like dismissing the signing of Djorkaeff as inconsequential.

And what of Wheater? Now a bad signing? Other than Alonso, who else has he had apart from on loan players? Petrov? The new scapegoat? Say what you like about him, he's played the majority of games in a season thats seen us to 46 points so far and a Semi Final. If he's that shit, lord knows what'll happen if he signs someone decent, we'll probably walk the f*cking league.

The point being that aside from Sturridge none of Coyle's other signings were considered by Coyle himself on Sunday to be better than the players Megson signed. And he was really shite and wasted lots of money on dross as you keep telling everyone.

If you think Petrov has been anything other than an absolute waste of presumably a very decent wage then you must be blind. The argument that we're 8th so Petrov must be good is somewhat laughable too.

8 of Megson's signings started The Worst Game In Our History®™. You know, the one that precipitated the need to overhaul the squad completely.At least be consistent.

And my point being that the one original Coyle signing who started that game was so embarrassingly bad poor that he was left out by Coyle himself the game after. And its not a one off, Petrov has hardly been a regular starter this season and has been dropped a few times!

[Lord Kangana]

So it was all Petrov's fault now?

F*ck.

Sake.

[BWFC_Insane]

So it was all Petrov's fault now?

F*ck.

Sake.

I like the way you take something someone writes then completely change the message when it doesn't suit your argument!

Petrov was the only player Coyle decided to drop (apart from Klasnic and we knew Sturridge would come back) after Wembley. Why would Coyle single out Petrov? You tell me. Nobody would be so stupid as to pin Wembley as being one players fault but Petrov was chosen by Coyle it seems to take the most visible rap.

He's not been a regular starter Petrov and has taken a lot of criticism.

You seem to be a black and white person. Either everything is absolutely shite or everything is absolutely brilliant.

There are shades of grey. Coyle can be a top manager but it is entirely possible that Petrov has been a mistake. Megson can be a shite manager but its entirely possible that some of his signings were as good as we'll see here.

[Lord Kangana]

Only, apart from?

So not the only then. He included one of his signings. A guy who has a 7/9 scoring record.

Your argument has more holes than a collander.

[Worthy4England]

Petrov's been occasionally great - see goal against Utd.
Generally ok.
Occasionally disasterous - "what I gave the ball away and I'm expected to track back???!!!" - again

Petrov has 2 more goals and the same number of assists as Taylor. For me he's been about on a par with Taylor as he's scored a couple more but given shitloads away defensively. If that's the best he can do, and most of the people supporting Petrov (as opposed to Taylor) reckoned Taylor is shite, then Petrov is, on what I've seen this season, equally as shite. He should be piggy backed to anywhere that needs him...

QED.

[Raven]

We might even sign somebody who gets in the first team

Well lets hope so eh?

I do think this summer is the big defining moment for Coyle.

We're going to lose some talent in Cahill, possibly Elmander and Sturridge as well. He needs to show how he plans to replace it and how he'll spend money here.

He's shown that in terms of loanees he can work the market.

But his permanent deals, Holden aside haven't been that impressive so far. Get it right this summer and we'll be laughing but if it goes wrong, well could be a tough season next time round.

Not a great loss, although the money idiot Megson wasted on him is!

[BWFC_Insane]

We might even sign somebody who gets in the first team

Well lets hope so eh?

I do think this summer is the big defining moment for Coyle.

We're going to lose some talent in Cahill, possibly Elmander and Sturridge as well. He needs to show how he plans to replace it and how he'll spend money here.

He's shown that in terms of loanees he can work the market.

But his permanent deals, Holden aside haven't been that impressive so far. Get it right this summer and we'll be laughing but if it goes wrong, well could be a tough season next time round.

Not a great loss, although the money idiot Megson wasted on him is!

Why does Coyle keep picking him then and persist in trying to offer him a new contract?

Is he an idiot too?

[TANGODANCER]

Whatever OC did or whoever he did or didn't blame it worked. Taylor particularly was a different player on Sunday and the disease spread. Hard to pick a player who normally gets some clog that did less than great. Steinsson, Knight, Robbo etc were all heroes.

[Raven]

Well he did sign Petrov

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

He said at the fans forum he wanted another midfield player. Turns out we were waiting for Wilshere.

Really? Exclusively? Forsaking all others? I know none arrived, but we didn't try for anyone else?