On this day...

[bobo the clown]

Is Dean Hayes the one who wrote the book and was then found guilty of messing with kids? I remember a story a bit back about someone who wrote a Wanderers book and was later sent to prison.....

If not, Dean, I apologise

B-Hell LL, it better had be as otherwise I doubt "ooops, sorry" would cover it !!

[William the White]

He's a paedo so they pulped his entirely unrelated books. Not didn't give him any more money, but went to the trouble of finding them all and then getting rid of them. Just me who thinks that's a bit, well, mental?

No, you're not the only one - seems weird to me too...

Exactly. To be honest I'd never heard of this book until today. However, I'd love to get hold of a copy now and to have seen the guy's royalties be paid to charity. That said, regardless of what the guy's done, surely you can't simply divert his dues on moral grounds? Afterall, he isn't profiting from his wrong-doings?

It's the old question about art and artists, albeit at a lower level. Many of the most celebrated writers/painters/musicians have been fairly despicable people, if not kiddly-fiddlers. In this instance, though, I can see why BWFC wouldn't want to be promoting a man whose name brings shame.

Remind me - what is that old question? And which of those artists did you find particularly despicable? And do you think there is real evidence that artists behave as a group more despicably than, say, nurses, estate agents or - even - journalists... ?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Q: If the artist is hateful, should you hate the art?

And no, no evidence that artists behave worse than anyone else, but art more than any other sphere (except perhaps professional sport) seems to exalt its practitioners to demi-god status. How many fan clubs are dedicated to nurses, estate agents or journalists?

[thebish]

on this day in history - 13th May

1940 our biggest North West division win 8-1 over Southport (heady days!)

1953 - Paul Jones born!

more recently...

2001 - play-offs semi-final first leg - west brom - 2-0 down - Gudni and Per level it up

[Gooner Girl]

whos Paul Jones?

[malcd1]

Can we call Hitler an artist (And possibly a writer)? He was pretty despicable.

Caravaggio killed someone in a fight but that was in the early 17th Century.

I certainly don't think they have a higher murder rate than any other profession but as a percentage they probably suffer more from bouts of depression or mental illness. This is certainly backed up by the amount who have committed suicide over the centuries.

[malcd1]

whos Paul Jones?

Paul Jones was a footballer (you know the cute ones in the shorts ) who played nearly 450 games for Bolton between 1970 and 1983.

[TKIZ!]

whos Paul Jones?

A great Wanderers player

[Gooner Girl]

I was only born in 1980 so I'm allowed not to have known that.

[TKIZ!]

I was only born two years before you and only know because my dad used to go on about him and he used to live in my old street in Bolton

[Gooner Girl]

I was only born two years before you and only know because my dad used to go on about him and he used to live in my old street in Bolton

Yes but you're a Bolton fan, I could tell you about great arsenal players if the early 80s een of I don't remember them!

And you're only 32? I thought most people on here were in their 60s!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

And you're only 32? I thought most people on here were in their 60s!

That's just the way the world looks when you're a teenager.

[TKIZ!]

I was only born two years before you and only know because my dad used to go on about him and he used to live in my old street in Bolton

Yes but you're a Bolton fan, I could tell you about great arsenal players if the early 80s een of I don't remember them!

And you're only 32? I thought most people on here were in their 60s!

My other half is a Gooner, she's told me about plenty of the 'cult' Arsenal players of the 80's

[Gooner Girl]

I was only born two years before you and only know because my dad used to go on about him and he used to live in my old street in Bolton

Yes but you're a Bolton fan, I could tell you about great arsenal players if the early 80s een of I don't remember them!

And you're only 32? I thought most people on here were in their 60s!

My other half is a Gooner, she's told me about plenty of the 'cult' Arsenal players of the 80's

She sounds like a great (and very wise) lady..

[Gary the Enfield]

I was only born two years before you and only know because my dad used to go on about him and he used to live in my old street in Bolton

Yes but you're a Bolton fan, I could tell you about great arsenal players if the early 80s een of I don't remember them!

And you're only 32? I thought most people on here were in their 60s!

My other half is a Gooner, she's told me about plenty of the 'cult' Arsenal players of the 80's

Are you sure you heard her right?

[Bruce Rioja]

Can we call Hitler an artist.

I'd say so, yes.

[TKIZ!]

I was only born two years before you and only know because my dad used to go on about him and he used to live in my old street in Bolton

Yes but you're a Bolton fan, I could tell you about great arsenal players if the early 80s een of I don't remember them!

And you're only 32? I thought most people on here were in their 60s!

My other half is a Gooner, she's told me about plenty of the 'cult' Arsenal players of the 80's

Are you sure you heard her right?

She's actually been to the 'Bok more than the Emirates. We live to far from the Emirates to be fair.Although I did go to the Emirates Cup last year and probably plan on going again this year

[Gooner Girl]

I was only born two years before you and only know because my dad used to go on about him and he used to live in my old street in Bolton

Yes but you're a Bolton fan, I could tell you about great arsenal players if the early 80s een of I don't remember them!

And you're only 32? I thought most people on here were in their 60s!

My other half is a Gooner, she's told me about plenty of the 'cult' Arsenal players of the 80's

Are you sure you heard her right?

She's actually been to the 'Bok more than the Emirates. We live to far from the Emirates to be fair.Although I did go to the Emirates Cup last year and probably plan on going again this year

You lucky boy!

[TKIZ!]

Really? It was interesting but I wouldn't say I was lucky. It's not like she's not been entertained at the Reebok this season. Brum, Blackpool, Stoke, Spuds, Toon, Villa and Gooners. All great games

[Lofthouse Lower]

Aye but at least she got to sit in comfy seats and watch Arse...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz