Elmander signs for Galatasaray

[jimbo_bwfc]

Hard cold fact is that Elmander is our top scorer this season despite being totally shite, uninterested and useless and playing in midfield for half the season.

I do wonder what that says about Kevin Davies who has had the luxury of playing up front all season and taking the penalties!

It says Davies is pretty shit in front of goal as far as strikers go, which we've all known for years. Davies rarely gets himself in goalscoring positions, despite being a striker, I'm not sure it's even really his job to be in those positions, his role in the team is surely creating chances.

You could spin that round and say when you're playing alongside Kevin Davies who statistically creates more goalscoring chances than any player in the Premier League (think he was about 20 chances ahead of 2nd placed Malouda at the last check) then should Elmander not be scoring significantly more goals? Sturridge manages it and he's not had the luxury of two years learning how to play alongside Kevin Davies.

I think the difference between the two is that Davies has other elements to his game, Elmander works hard and misses a lot of chances. Sure he put some in and is our top goalscorer, but still not at the rate you need your goalscoring striker to be firing them in at- which is why he was moved into midfield.

10 in 36 is just about acceptable. But it's the same that I'd expect most half-decent strikers in the Premier League to come in and get 1 every 3 and a half games, too.
His previous seasons of 5 in 30 and 3 in 25 are obviously shite.

[CrazyHorse]

His previous seasons of 5 in 30 and 3 in 25 are obviously shite.

But is that his fault or his previous manager's?

[BWFC_Insane]

Hard cold fact is that Elmander is our top scorer this season despite being totally shite, uninterested and useless and playing in midfield for half the season.

I do wonder what that says about Kevin Davies who has had the luxury of playing up front all season and taking the penalties!

It says Davies is pretty shit in front of goal as far as strikers go, which we've all known for years. Davies rarely gets himself in goalscoring positions, despite being a striker, I'm not sure it's even really his job to be in those positions, his role in the team is surely creating chances.

You could spin that round and say when you're playing alongside Kevin Davies who statistically creates more goalscoring chances than any player in the Premier League (think he was about 20 chances ahead of 2nd placed Malouda at the last check) then should Elmander not be scoring significantly more goals? Sturridge manages it and he's not had the luxury of two years learning how to play alongside Kevin Davies.

I think the difference between the two is that Davies has other elements to his game, Elmander works hard and misses a lot of chances. Sure he put some in and is our top goalscorer, but still not at the rate you need your goalscoring striker to be firing them in at- which is why he was moved into midfield.

10 in 36 is just about acceptable. But it's the same that I'd expect most half-decent strikers in the Premier League to come in and get 1 every 3 and a half games, too.
His previous seasons of 5 in 30 and 3 in 25 are obviously shite.

I like the way when he doesn't score then the only thing Elmander can be judged on is goals. When he does score then there is suddenly a whole set of new criteria which come into play from his critics.

Also love the way you try and make out that all Elmander offers is hard work and missed chances. Lets plonk Kevin Davies in the centre of midfield and see how he gets on shall we? Elmander can beat a man, pass a ball and dare I say it trap a ball first time. It may be true that Davies creates a lot of chances from flick ons and the occassional good ball, but ultimately he's taking a spot from someone who might actually bang some goals in.

Elmander might as well go because he can't win here. When he's not scoring then he's "not the next Anelka". When he is scoring he's "not the next Kevin Davies".

Tis ok though, David Nugent will be rocking up soon.

[BWFC_Wyles]

I like the way when he doesn't score then the only thing Elmander can be judged on is goals. When he does score then there is suddenly a whole set of new criteria which come into play from his critics.

Also love the way you try and make out that all Elmander offers is hard work and missed chances. Lets plonk Kevin Davies in the centre of midfield and see how he gets on shall we? Elmander can beat a man, pass a ball and dare I say it trap a ball first time. It may be true that Davies creates a lot of chances from flick ons and the occassional good ball, but ultimately he's taking a spot from someone who might actually bang some goals in.

Elmander might as well go because he can't win here. When he's not scoring then he's "not the next Anelka". When he is scoring he's "not the next Kevin Davies".

Tis ok though, David Nugent will be rocking up soon.

Spot on!

[Lofthouse Lower]

Elmander can beat a man? Must have missed that bit

Good riddance

[keveh]

Breaking news: No contract yet signed on Elmander but he is off to Galatasaray #Bolton #bwfc

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[Lofthouse Lower]

She's fit

[Lofthouse Lower]

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[jimbo_bwfc]

Hard cold fact is that Elmander is our top scorer this season despite being totally shite, uninterested and useless and playing in midfield for half the season.

I do wonder what that says about Kevin Davies who has had the luxury of playing up front all season and taking the penalties!

It says Davies is pretty shit in front of goal as far as strikers go, which we've all known for years. Davies rarely gets himself in goalscoring positions, despite being a striker, I'm not sure it's even really his job to be in those positions, his role in the team is surely creating chances.

You could spin that round and say when you're playing alongside Kevin Davies who statistically creates more goalscoring chances than any player in the Premier League (think he was about 20 chances ahead of 2nd placed Malouda at the last check) then should Elmander not be scoring significantly more goals? Sturridge manages it and he's not had the luxury of two years learning how to play alongside Kevin Davies.

I think the difference between the two is that Davies has other elements to his game, Elmander works hard and misses a lot of chances. Sure he put some in and is our top goalscorer, but still not at the rate you need your goalscoring striker to be firing them in at- which is why he was moved into midfield.

10 in 36 is just about acceptable. But it's the same that I'd expect most half-decent strikers in the Premier League to come in and get 1 every 3 and a half games, too.
His previous seasons of 5 in 30 and 3 in 25 are obviously shite.

I like the way when he doesn't score then the only thing Elmander can be judged on is goals. When he does score then there is suddenly a whole set of new criteria which come into play from his critics.

Also love the way you try and make out that all Elmander offers is hard work and missed chances. Lets plonk Kevin Davies in the centre of midfield and see how he gets on shall we? Elmander can beat a man, pass a ball and dare I say it trap a ball first time. It may be true that Davies creates a lot of chances from flick ons and the occassional good ball, but ultimately he's taking a spot from someone who might actually bang some goals in.

Elmander might as well go because he can't win here. When he's not scoring then he's "not the next Anelka". When he is scoring he's "not the next Kevin Davies".

Tis ok though, David Nugent will be rocking up soon.

He was brought in as a striker- presumably one who is there to score goals (although judging by his previous goalscoring records in a much inferior league, I'm not sure why Gartside, the board or Gary Megson ever thought he'd score goals here).

Elmander is technically able, but hasn't his run in midfield coincided with our drop down the league? He was moved from up front because Coyle obviously judged that Davies' worth to the team in chances created is more important than Elmander's goals.

And in Nugent's one season with Burnley, one of the worst team's in the league, he bettered two of Elmander's three seasons here in terms of end product. Scary.

[BWFC_Insane]

Hard cold fact is that Elmander is our top scorer this season despite being totally shite, uninterested and useless and playing in midfield for half the season.

I do wonder what that says about Kevin Davies who has had the luxury of playing up front all season and taking the penalties!

It says Davies is pretty shit in front of goal as far as strikers go, which we've all known for years. Davies rarely gets himself in goalscoring positions, despite being a striker, I'm not sure it's even really his job to be in those positions, his role in the team is surely creating chances.

You could spin that round and say when you're playing alongside Kevin Davies who statistically creates more goalscoring chances than any player in the Premier League (think he was about 20 chances ahead of 2nd placed Malouda at the last check) then should Elmander not be scoring significantly more goals? Sturridge manages it and he's not had the luxury of two years learning how to play alongside Kevin Davies.

I think the difference between the two is that Davies has other elements to his game, Elmander works hard and misses a lot of chances. Sure he put some in and is our top goalscorer, but still not at the rate you need your goalscoring striker to be firing them in at- which is why he was moved into midfield.

10 in 36 is just about acceptable. But it's the same that I'd expect most half-decent strikers in the Premier League to come in and get 1 every 3 and a half games, too.
His previous seasons of 5 in 30 and 3 in 25 are obviously shite.

I like the way when he doesn't score then the only thing Elmander can be judged on is goals. When he does score then there is suddenly a whole set of new criteria which come into play from his critics.

Also love the way you try and make out that all Elmander offers is hard work and missed chances. Lets plonk Kevin Davies in the centre of midfield and see how he gets on shall we? Elmander can beat a man, pass a ball and dare I say it trap a ball first time. It may be true that Davies creates a lot of chances from flick ons and the occassional good ball, but ultimately he's taking a spot from someone who might actually bang some goals in.

Elmander might as well go because he can't win here. When he's not scoring then he's "not the next Anelka". When he is scoring he's "not the next Kevin Davies".

Tis ok though, David Nugent will be rocking up soon.

He was brought in as a striker- presumably one who is there to score goals (although judging by his previous goalscoring records in a much inferior league, I'm not sure why Gartside, the board or Gary Megson ever thought he'd score goals here).

Elmander is technically able, but hasn't his run in midfield coincided with our drop down the league? He was moved from up front because Coyle obviously judged that Davies' worth to the team in chances created is more important than Elmander's goals.

And in Nugent's one season with Burnley, one of the worst team's in the league, he bettered two of Elmander's three seasons here in terms of end product. Scary.

If he was brought in for goals, then this season he has delivered more than any of our other players.

Whatever he was brought in for is irrelevant now.

He was moved into midfield because he actually has some technical ability, pace and movement. Its clear he's not a midfield player. But hey lets put KD in and see if we can beat anyone 3-0 with him playing there.

Davies was brought in as a striker presumably to score goals. I don't see anyone giving him grief for not doing so. Though its about time someone did. The insistence of playing him will cost us if it carries on when its clear he's not up to it week in week out!

[arconwhite]

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[Armchair Wanderer]

Wow. Wonder if he'll play on Sunday.

[jimbo_bwfc]

Fans tend to judge players on their entire stay at a club rather than the immidiete.

Elmander has done pretty well this season, Davies has underperformed. Fans give Elmander a harder time than Davies because their overall contributions to the club cannot be compared.

[BWFC_Insane]

Fans tend to judge players on their entire stay at a club rather than the immidiete.

Elmander has done pretty well this season, Davies has underperformed. Fans give Elmander a harder time than Davies because their overall contributions to the club cannot be compared.

Which is pretty silly because next season won't be determined by what Davies did 5 years ago, and this season is a far more likely indicator of form for next year than any other season!

[ChrisC]

Although Elmander was poor in his first two season under a certain manager, this season should show most that if he was under Coyle for them two seasons it would have been a different story and would have made the fee we paid for him not hit as hard. He has worn our shirt and never disrespected the club etc.. so i wish the lad well. You cant blame the lad for the fee paid for him, which seems the main reason most people have a dig at him.

[keveh]

I do sympathise with Elmander, I just don't think this was ever the right club for him. He just didn't seem to fit in with the way we played football. He did well at the start of the season, but has since gone downhill, him being played out of position has had something to do with that.

Saying that, I am glad that he is going. I think it's the right move for him and the club, he can start from scratch and we can now go out and get somebody who will hopefully be better suited.

[m_taylor]

are people going to boo him on sunday? I for one will clap him off as he has done very well this year and played in some unfamiliar roles to aid the team!

[TKIZ!]

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The Guardian running the story as well

[Bruce Rioja]

are people going to boo him on sunday? I for one will clap him off as he has done very well this year and played in some unfamiliar roles to aid the team!

And I shall be there pelting the 4ucker with fruit........................... that's still in the tin!

[BWFC_Wyles]

I, for one, am gutted and think he's a big loss. Don't give two shits what others think on this one.

Good luck to him