Loan Watch 2010/11

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu May 19, 2011 10:20 pm

Rather have the pair of them than be searching for yet more squad players. At least young potential generally brings hunger and desire, and of course the potential to improve.

Rather have them on the bench than a 27k per week late twenties championship defender. For example.
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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri May 20, 2011 8:14 am

Prufrock wrote:Not quite sure what more BWFCi wants. He was outstanding at business end for Swindon last year, and has been for Huddersfield this. A large part of the difference between the talented players at League 1, and the talented players at Prem level is mentality and attitude. Both clubs' fans have praised his commitment, level headedness and work rate, and he has played really well and scored goals in vital games at Swindon and Huddersfield. Scored penalties for both in Play Off semis too. It's far too early to tell if he will make it, and to write him off now is bonkers. My gut reaction is he will, up front, not out wide, but who knows.

Also, apparently Marcos Alonso was 'one for the future' despite looking like absolute dogshit whenever he got on the pitch, but Ward, one year his senior, needs to be Messi mkII by now?
For Coyle to stop loaning him out and play him in the team so we can actually see for ourselves. I've seen these youngsters loaned out before, promising look really good for their loan teams but never actually quite make it and end up at a championship club or worse! I suppose my point with Ward is that despite the fact he looks decent the odds are massively stacked against him making it at this level still. But I don't see how another year of loan would be beneficial. He surely has enough matchday experience now. If he's not ready now when the hell will he be? And your point about Alonso is kind of pertinent, he's been involved, started sometimes. Surely Ward has to be at least in that bracket next season if he's ever going to make it here?

I've never said much good about Alonso since seeing him play either. Over 2M quid we may as well have flushed straight down the toilet.

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by malcd1 » Fri May 20, 2011 2:15 pm

Highlights here.

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He took his goal pretty well.
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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri May 20, 2011 6:41 pm

Of course the odds are stacked against him making it. That's how pyramids are. Speaking of which, considering he'd only be a back-up (I'm sure you'd call Coyle not fit to p*ss on if we went into the season with Ward first-choice) then he's better off playing in front of 16,000 in play-off semi-finals than arsing around in front of 200 at Leyland. There comes a time in a young player's career where he's ready for first-team action even if his first team's not ready for him. Seems to me the club are playing it exactly right: Ward is doing well in whatever first team he's in, he'll spend pre-season under the coaching team's beady gaze and then he might go to a Championship team (Huddersfield?) for yet more experience at a yet higher level. How many teenagers consistently play Premier League football?

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by officer_dibble » Fri May 20, 2011 6:49 pm

If he doesn't get a chance this summer with our general lack of forwadage, petrov being w*nk etc then I'll be surprised if he does make it here to be honest. Might still mean he goes out on loan (to the championship) at some point, but i would hope if he is as good as we hope he is, he makes our bench at the start of next season.

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by Prufrock » Fri May 20, 2011 7:12 pm

He isn't a winger btw, not in a million years. A striker playing out wide while he learns the game. Like Wenger planned with Walcott before he ditched the old 4-4-2.
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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by t_o_molloy » Fri May 20, 2011 7:29 pm

Agreed, he looked phenomenal in the one game he actually played upfront for Swindon in the second leg of the Play-off semis

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by AimsHolden » Fri May 20, 2011 7:49 pm

So if this guy's the way forward, where are we reckoning Petrov will be off to?

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by CAPSLOCK » Fri May 20, 2011 9:46 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Rather have them on the bench than a 27k per week late twenties championship defender. For example.
Or Petrov. For example.
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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by Lord Kangana » Fri May 20, 2011 9:47 pm

Clearly your agenda is just to make Petrov a scapegoat, and therefore he must be good. For some reason.
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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by CAPSLOCK » Fri May 20, 2011 9:55 pm

Thats right

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by William the White » Fri May 20, 2011 11:36 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Of course the odds are stacked against him making it. That's how pyramids are. Speaking of which, considering he'd only be a back-up (I'm sure you'd call Coyle not fit to p*ss on if we went into the season with Ward first-choice) then he's better off playing in front of 16,000 in play-off semi-finals than arsing around in front of 200 at Leyland. There comes a time in a young player's career where he's ready for first-team action even if his first team's not ready for him. Seems to me the club are playing it exactly right: Ward is doing well in whatever first team he's in, he'll spend pre-season under the coaching team's beady gaze and then he might go to a Championship team (Huddersfield?) for yet more experience at a yet higher level. How many teenagers consistently play Premier League football?
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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by superjohnmcginlay » Sat May 28, 2011 11:36 am

'uddersfield playing tomorrow in the play off final. Should be good, I plan on being very drunk.

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by Lord Kangana » Sat May 28, 2011 3:31 pm

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by thebish » Sat May 28, 2011 3:32 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:You have a plan?
getting drunk with military precision (hopefully not the US variety) it seems!

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by aussie_wanderer » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:15 pm

i bet we get carlos vela on loan as part of cahill deal,

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:23 pm

hope not

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:11 pm

Well at the moment we have 3 forwards, all of whom are slower than Kevin Nolan on the moon...at least he'd be summat different.

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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:33 pm

Surely the weightlessness would help a very weightfulness Nolan, non?
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Re: Loan Watch 2010/11

Post by Wandering Willy » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:04 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Surely the weightlessness would help a very weightfulness Nolan, non?
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