Wigan launch £3 miilion bid for Ali Al Habsi

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:34 am

Fair enough fella, you're the expert with the pans... ho ho...

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:05 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Again, because I think thats how it will pan out.

But.. They'll get an extra years service from him..

What I mean by that, is. If they'd bought him last year on a 3 year deal, he'd serve 3 years. If they bought him now on a 3 year deal, he'd have served 4 years.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:13 am

Well at the moment we're looking at a bid from Wigan of £3m. I find it a bigger leap of imagination to think they'll stump up £5m rather than £4m.

ANd to leverage it, Whelan will (metaphorically) say "look we've had yon lad for a million, we'll bung you another 4, he wants to leave and come to us anyway, Villa will never pay you the five".

I have no idea what will actually happen, but I'd put my eggs in that basket.

jimbo_bwfc · Post by **jimbo_bwfc** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:22 pm

They're desperate for him.

If they say 4M we just go "err, no. 5."

And they'll pay 5M. They'll not be able to get another goalkeeper anywhere near Ali's quality for 5M. Whelan's a smart enough bloke, he knows that. He also knows they'd probably be with West Ham and Blackpool right now if it wasn't for Al Habsi.

Sunderland want 9M for Gordon. West Ham want 6M for Green!!

I'm pretty sure we hold all the ace cards. They paid 6M for Boselli, by comparison 6M for Al Habsi (including the loan fee) is a bargain.

Athers · Post by **Athers** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:47 pm

Gotta love that Whelan has had to go from a position of sniping at us for using foreign players to trying to buy them off us because they're better than his English ones.

hisroyalgingerness · Post by **hisroyalgingerness** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:01 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:I'd be amazed if Mr Whelan would end up paying £6m for his services. I suspect thats how the de facto deal will pan out.
£6m? Why are you adding on the money they've already spent, money which would seem quite a bargain considering he was Player Of The Season during a campaign in which they stayed up by the width of a fanny hair?

Can we not forget that they've paid wages for him too, that means they're actually paying £40m for Ali

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:09 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:Can we not forget that they've paid wages for him too, that means they're actually paying £40m for Ali

I'm not bothered what wage they pay him, I'm bothered what wedge they pay us

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:12 pm

Just because he played well for them doesn't mean they'll pay whatever price for him. Fredi Bobic kept us up, but we still wouldn't stump up £2mil for him IIRC.

I'd question Whelan's sanity if he offers us £5mil for Ali. Wouldn't expect them to dramatically up their bid any time soon really. The closer we get to the deadline, the more pressure there is on us to sell. Unless we really do want to keep him and make him number one.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:11 pm

Tombwfc wrote:Just because he played well for them doesn't mean they'll pay whatever price for him. Fredi Bobic kept us up, but we still wouldn't stump up £2mil for him IIRC.

I'd question Whelan's sanity if he offers us £5mil for Ali. Wouldn't expect them to dramatically up their bid any time soon really. The closer we get to the deadline, the more pressure there is on us to sell. Unless we really do want to keep him and make him number one.

<ruffles calendar> Yep, June 6th - it's time to panic and accept whatever offer we're given.

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:55 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tombwfc wrote:Just because he played well for them doesn't mean they'll pay whatever price for him. Fredi Bobic kept us up, but we still wouldn't stump up £2mil for him IIRC.

I'd question Whelan's sanity if he offers us £5mil for Ali. Wouldn't expect them to dramatically up their bid any time soon really. The closer we get to the deadline, the more pressure there is on us to sell. Unless we really do want to keep him and make him number one.
<ruffles calendar> Yep, June 6th - it's time to panic and accept whatever offer we're given.

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:02 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Well at the moment we're looking at a bid from Wigan of £3m. I find it a bigger leap of imagination to think they'll stump up £5m rather than £4m.

ANd to leverage it, Whelan will (metaphorically) say "look we've had yon lad for a million, we'll bung you another 4, he wants to leave and come to us anyway, Villa will never pay you the five".

I have no idea what will actually happen, but I'd put my eggs in that basket.

We could just tell him we're confident Villa will offer the £5m and let him sweat it. I'd say their need is greater than ours.

More importantly, Whelan's 'we'll give you £4million and it is like £5million and Villa won't give you £5m so accept ours' doesn't really work, in that we'd only need them to go to £4.25m or so to be outbidding Wigan by a worthwhile chunk. Anyway, we'll see. My own reckon is he will go, and for somewhere around £4.5million. No idea where.

hisroyalgingerness · Post by **hisroyalgingerness** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:57 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
hisroyalgingerness wrote:Can we not forget that they've paid wages for him too, that means they're actually paying £40m for Ali
I'm not bothered what wage they pay him, I'm bothered what wedge they pay us

Me neither, I'm being flippant

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:21 pm

Athers wrote:Gotta love that Whelan has had to go from a position of sniping at us for using foreign players to trying to buy them off us because they're better than his English ones.

Actually I think he is a UK citizen now...

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:59 am

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Athers wrote:Gotta love that Whelan has had to go from a position of sniping at us for using foreign players to trying to buy them off us because they're better than his English ones.
Actually I think he is a UK citizen now...

That wasn't his point, I imagine

officer_dibble · Post by **officer_dibble** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:20 pm

A bit off topic but what I don't get is the values of keepers

Say Al Habsi was a centre forward, he was Wiggins saviour last season by scoring goals...his value would be three times what it is now

Why is that?

LiOC · Post by **LiOC** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:09 pm

officer_dibble wrote:A bit off topic but what I don't get is the values of keepers

Say Al Habsi was a centre forward, he was Wiggins saviour last season by scoring goals...his value would be three times what it is now

Why is that?

Just market value, strikers are the most expensive then midfielders the defenders then keepers as a general rule. Plus there's quite a few keepers out there to buy and fewer clubs in the market for him. Plus as a second choice keeper who we'ee willing to sell, it isn't like trying to buy our prize asset off us.

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:07 pm

Hardest thing sticking it in the net and all that. Goals mean prizes, or midtable obscurity.

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:29 pm

Prufrock wrote:Hardest thing sticking it in the net and all that. Goals mean prizes, or midtable obscurity.

Blackpool

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:47 pm

Birmingham.

jimbo_bwfc · Post by **jimbo_bwfc** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:59 pm

West H...nope, with Upson and Cole, they've put together a nice balance of being laughable at either end.

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