Today I'm angry about.....

[bobo the clown]

My usual pre and post match drinking hovel The Greenwood pub to be knocked down within weeks. A bit of a dive, but Ive got a lot of memories from there, gutted.

Hopefully the final night will be a bit like the last game at Burnden; chairs, tables, toilet seats, doors and all sorts removed!

... or used as weapons, as in an old-Western movie.

Which is how it was back in my Horwich days ..... admittedly a long, long, time ago !

[Gary the Enfield]

My usual pre and post match drinking hovel The Greenwood pub to be knocked down within weeks. A bit of a dive, but Ive got a lot of memories from there, gutted.

Hopefully the final night will be a bit like the last game at Burnden; chairs, tables, toilet seats, doors and all sorts removed!

A sometime pre-match pint venue with my old man (when I get to a home game). Why's it being knocked down?

[bobo the clown]

A sometime pre-match pint venue with my old man (when I get to a home game). Why's it being knocked down?

Because it's a shit-heap I think Gary.

It's one of those old-style giant sized pubs which, outside student areas, seem to have had their day.

Attempts to keep it going had taken increasingly desparate angles. I never quite got past it being painted purple .... it being called "the Greenwood" and all that.

Personally I don't think it got over losing the trade of the legendary Kenny Dootson when he passed on to another place (no, NOT the Albert Arms).

[thebish]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

[TANGODANCER]

A sometime pre-match pint venue with my old man (when I get to a home game). Why's it being knocked down?

Because it's a shit-heap I think Gary.

It's one of those old-style giant sized pubs which, outside student areas, seem to have had their day.

Aye, had their day now, but they were lots of fun way back when. Beehive, Greenwood, Beehive at Swinton (then on to the Wishing Well), Crofters, Lower Nags and a few more. All good weekend venues.

[superjohnmcginlay]

A sometime pre-match pint venue with my old man (when I get to a home game). Why's it being knocked down?

Because it's a shit-heap I think Gary.

It's one of those old-style giant sized pubs which, outside student areas, seem to have had their day.

Attempts to keep it going had taken increasingly desparate angles. I never quite got past it being painted purple .... it being called "the Greenwood" and all that.

Personally I don't think it got over losing the trade of the legendary Kenny Dootson when he passed on to another place (no, NOT the Albert Arms).

It is but it was just right for pre match beers. Need a new venue now.

[Gary the Enfield]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

[Hoboh]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

Not if their surname is Corleone he carn't

[General Mannerheim]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

i can guess to whom this is referring to!

[Gooner Girl]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

You're as bad as them if you agree to it. No sympathy. Shouldn't be doing christenings anyway, especially not for people who aren't even christians.

Why on earth would you just not offer people dedications and have done with christenings anyway? That way the child can choose when they are older if they want to be baptised. Makes far more sense.

Oh, and BTW - check your emails once in a while...

[Gary the Enfield]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

You're as bad as them if you agree to it. No sympathy. Shouldn't be doing christenings anyway, especially not for people who aren't even christians.

Why on earth would you just not offer people dedications and have done with christenings anyway? That way the child can choose when they are older if they want to be baptised. Makes far more sense.

Oh, and BTW - check your emails once in a while...

Someone's in a grump!

[Gooner Girl]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

You're as bad as them if you agree to it. No sympathy. Shouldn't be doing christenings anyway, especially not for people who aren't even christians.

Why on earth would you just not offer people dedications and have done with christenings anyway? That way the child can choose when they are older if they want to be baptised. Makes far more sense.

Oh, and BTW - check your emails once in a while...

Someone's in a grump!

Sorry, huge bugbear of mine...

[thebish]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

You're as bad as them if you agree to it. No sympathy.

I have no idea what you are talking about - what am I suppose to have "agreed" to?

time of the month???

[Gooner Girl]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

You're as bad as them if you agree to it. No sympathy.

I have no idea what you are talking about - what am I suppose to have "agreed" to?

time of the month???

if you then proceed to christen them.

I am in a foul mood and you know why.

[thebish]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

You're as bad as them if you agree to it. No sympathy.

I have no idea what you are talking about - what am I suppose to have "agreed" to?

time of the month???

if you then proceed to christen them.

christen who, exactly???

[Gooner Girl]

if you then proceed to christen them.

christen who, exactly???

the child you were talking about. you didn't make it clear if you were christening them or someone else was proiceeding to.

Did you get my email?

[thebish]

if you then proceed to christen them.

christen who, exactly???

the child you were talking about. you didn't make it clear if you were christening them or someone else was proiceeding to.

I think the cuckoo has flown right over your head... never mind.

[Gooner Girl]

Ahhh you mean LL. Well, what do you expect from him?

I'm still angry about christenings though.

[Hoboh]

Hypocritical wankpots who describe the Church as a diabolical organisation and then proceed to have their child christened.

Can't you refuse?

You're as bad as them if you agree to it. No sympathy. Shouldn't be doing christenings anyway, especially not for people who aren't even christians.

Why on earth would you just not offer people dedications and have done with christenings anyway? That way the child can choose when they are older if they want to be baptised. Makes far more sense.

Oh, and BTW - check your emails once in a while...

Errrrrm ain't we kinda overlooking something here? you know the bit about the church being all embracing and bringing people to God, showing a Christian spirit to all mankind and such. Telling folk to p*ss off hardly promotes the big fella's image does it?
Whatever next? Vicars, Knickers and Churches?
Just playin@ Devils advocate

[Gooner Girl]

Hoboh, i just think that a dedication service (where you thank God for the child but don't baptise it - leaving him/her to make up his/her own mind whether they want to be baptised when older) is a waaaaay better option then christening (where parents profess belief in God for a child that can't say otherwise even when they don't have that belief themself) whether that be for christians or non-christians.

Dedications are far more appropriate for non christians then christening is if they want to be 'done' in a church as you are not pushing beliefs you don't have onto a child but letting the kid make its own mind up later about whether it wants to show belief in God. Though quite why, if the parents have no belief in God they should want to make such promises which include god for their children i don't quite understand. As Bish says, hypocritical, but i see your point about welcoming them all into the church. Its a tricky one and it must be pretty soul destroying for ministers to do dedications/christenings knowing full well the parents don't mean a word they say and are just doing it for the tradition of it, the photos and the piss up afterwards.

Most modern, 'with it' churches push dedications these days rather then christenings anyway.