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Post by David Lee's Hair » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:10 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Does that not bring your 'a half a decent season' back into play though?
Which bit? N'gog or Macheda?
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Post by Raven » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:12 pm

Not Barton vile little cnut, would even want us to lose with that wanker playing unless what Plymouth says goes and Robbo goes to town on him
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Post by drummergeek » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:14 pm

i would have holden over barton everyday.

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:18 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:Which begs the question, DL'sH - who would you look to bring in? Peter Crouch for top dollar? :conf:
Were not in the top dollar market though are we? Never said we would be.

I guess the question is who is available, and at the right price.... Campbell is the right price, but for me personally, I'd rather us spend the £1.3m it'd costs for Campbell on the wages of a loanee, say Machada from ManUre... puts some of our fans in a difficult situation given the club he's from, but the kid's obviously class...
How is it obvious? His goal record, for me, suggests that 'the kid's obviously shite'...
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:33 pm

If Barton wanted to leave next summer, we'd presumably get a fee.

Newcastle's poor form in the second half of last season might not be put down to Barton, considering they had fewer strikers than we had central midfielders.

Macheda would love half a decent season. If he played for West Ham we'd be laughing at him.

Oh and in case anyone's bothered, two transfers of names mentioned here have gone through: Jonathan Spector to Birmingham and Zoltan Gera to WBA.

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Post by drummergeek » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:36 pm

gera would have been a useful free especially after chungy

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:41 pm

We were linked with Barton when Megson was manager, I believe Megson wanted to sign him, a few papers got hold of it, ran the story, the club were besieged with letters and emails from angry of Bolton, saying they didn't want Barton at our "family club".

We didn't sign him folk breathed a sigh of relief.

Funny how things change.........

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Post by thebish » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:44 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:We were linked with Barton when Megson was manager, I believe Megson wanted to sign him, a few papers got hold of it, ran the story, the club were besieged with letters and emails from angry of Bolton, saying they didn't want Barton at our "family club".

We didn't sign him folk breathed a sigh of relief.

Funny how things change.........

yeah... we loved Diouffy at our "family club"... :roll:

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:44 pm

drummergeek wrote:gera would have been a useful free especially after chungy
I like Gera, he's a good player. But our game is mostly about width. He wouldn't offer us that. He's a decent attacking midfielder on the right of a narrow 4, but a winger he is not
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Post by Lennon'sEleven » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:46 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:We were linked with Barton when Megson was manager, I believe Megson wanted to sign him, a few papers got hold of it, ran the story, the club were besieged with letters and emails from angry of Bolton, saying they didn't want Barton at our "family club".

We didn't sign him folk breathed a sigh of relief.

Funny how things change.........

yeah... we loved Diouffy at our "family club"... :roll:
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:47 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:We were linked with Barton when Megson was manager, I believe Megson wanted to sign him, a few papers got hold of it, ran the story, the club were besieged with letters and emails from angry of Bolton, saying they didn't want Barton at our "family club".

We didn't sign him folk breathed a sigh of relief.

Funny how things change.........

yeah... we loved Diouffy at our "family club"... :roll:
Hey Bish I'm not saying I agree or don't. Just saying what happened. If I recall correctly a poster on here had a phone conversation with Gartside at the time and asked him not to sign Barton (I may be remembering incorrectly!).

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Post by Choppers » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:50 pm

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drummergeek wrote:we won't get barton and i would be suprised if we had talked to him. There is not a chance he would come to us his ego wouldn't let him. i am glad
Barton has officially stated he's willing to talk to ANY club, no matter what league they are in.
and you believe that??
No of course not, it's far more likely that he's decided to say that, and lie, just for the sake of it.

Jeez. The guy isn't stupid, he knows he has a reputation, and that any club willing to take him on might have to consider that.
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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:56 pm

The comparison to Joofy only works from one angle. As far as I'm aware Joofy never stubbed out a cigar in a team mates eye, never called the manager shit etc. etc.

If we assume for a minute that Joof and Barton's off field antics cancel each other out, with Barton, we'd still be left with a complete arsehole, capable of pulling the squad to bits, verbally or otherwise in one of his "famous" rants.

Can keep him anywhere but here for my money, but wouldn't be writing to Garty to "complain" if we were to sign him. Can't see why Coyle would want such a disruption in the dressing room though.

I can see why Megson or Allardyce might just think they were able to control him though (albeit misguidedly)

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:00 pm

Barton is a good player. Undoubtedly he'd improve us in midfield. However, the improvement overall would be marginal as with Pratley, Muamba, Reo-Coker, Holden, Mark Davies (and lets just leave out Sean Davis and the rest) we are much stronger in this area than anywhere else.

Where we are weakest in some sort of order, is up front, then out wide, then centre back. I imagine Coyle would have interest in Barton only if he could strengthen the other areas that are more pressing as well.

There is no point getting Barton as a moderate improvement over NRC or Holden, when spending similar could improve our front line mahooosively, or find a replacement for LCY or replace Cahill, if he ever goes.

Of course you want to go for "good players when they're available". But equally you want to build a squad with balance so that you are adaptable and also good enough in all areas to compete.

Sometimes, in fact probably a lot of the time, you have to say "good player, but not for us at this moment in time". For me that is the situation with Barton.
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Post by Hoboh » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:01 pm

Worthy4England wrote:The comparison to Joofy only works from one angle. As far as I'm aware Joofy never stubbed out a cigar in a team mates eye, never called the manager shit etc. etc.

If we assume for a minute that Joof and Barton's off field antics cancel each other out, with Barton, we'd still be left with a complete arsehole, capable of pulling the squad to bits, verbally or otherwise in one of his "famous" rants.

Can keep him anywhere but here for my money, but wouldn't be writing to Garty to "complain" if we were to sign him. Can't see why Coyle would want such a disruption in the dressing room though.

I can see why Megson or Allardyce might just think they were able to control him though (albeit misguidedly)
I reckon BSA would love him actually!

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:02 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Sometimes, in fact probably a lot of the time, you have to say "good player, but not for us at this moment in time". For me that is the situation with Barton.
Indeed that's almost exactly what Coyle said of some of the swapsies offered for Cahill. except he'd probably say "good player, but not for this football club at this moment in time".

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Post by Choppers » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:03 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:However, the improvement overall would be marginal as with Pratley, Muamba, Reo-Coker, Holden, Mark Davies (and lets just leave out Sean Davis and the rest) we are much stronger in this area than anywhere else.
You are that sure that Pratley is good enough? Realistically, known quantity wise we have: Muamba, Reo-Coker and *maybe* Mark Davies in the middle.

Pratley has looked good so far in pre-season, but Davies and Klasnic are scoring for fun too - reckon that'll have any baring on the actual league?

Ultimately though, we won't get Barton because we have a limited supply of money and we need a striker utterly desperately.
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Post by Bruno3 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:03 pm

Choppers wrote:
drummergeek wrote:
Choppers wrote:
drummergeek wrote:we won't get barton and i would be suprised if we had talked to him. There is not a chance he would come to us his ego wouldn't let him. i am glad
Barton has officially stated he's willing to talk to ANY club, no matter what league they are in.
and you believe that??
No of course not, it's far more likely that he's decided to say that, and lie, just for the sake of it.

Jeez. The guy isn't stupid, he knows he has a reputation, and that any club willing to take him on might have to consider that.
Are you sure?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:04 pm

Not often I see folk on here quote George Orwell, as Barton did on Twitter this morning.

Not proof, but interesting.

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Post by Choppers » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:04 pm

Only as stupid as Diouf imho, who I think is just as vile a character.
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