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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:14 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:We should have sold Cahill last summer or last January if we could. Given we're where we are....

I'm not sure there is anything we can do now other than hope against hope that we can sign him up for an extra year or two.

Having said all that its not that nobody has bid what we want, nobody has bid full stop. Not even a cheeky 7M. Coyle needs to try and work some magic and persuade Gaz he can get in the England Euro's squad with a full season here. Don't fancy our chances.

But not sure now we have any other option?
except selling him to arsenal or liverpool....
That generally requires the consent of the buying clubs. Nobody has bid yet, what exactly can we do? Nowt, other than try and offer him a new deal. Or hope a bid miraculously appears from somewhere and is suitable.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by thebish » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:15 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:We should have sold Cahill last summer or last January if we could. Given we're where we are....

I'm not sure there is anything we can do now other than hope against hope that we can sign him up for an extra year or two.

Having said all that its not that nobody has bid what we want, nobody has bid full stop. Not even a cheeky 7M. Coyle needs to try and work some magic and persuade Gaz he can get in the England Euro's squad with a full season here. Don't fancy our chances.

But not sure now we have any other option?
except selling him to arsenal or liverpool....
That generally requires the consent of the buying clubs. Nobody has bid yet, what exactly can we do? Nowt, other than try and offer him a new deal. Or hope a bid miraculously appears from somewhere and is suitable.
how do we know nobody has made a bid?

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:18 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:We should have sold Cahill last summer or last January if we could. Given we're where we are....

I'm not sure there is anything we can do now other than hope against hope that we can sign him up for an extra year or two.

Having said all that its not that nobody has bid what we want, nobody has bid full stop. Not even a cheeky 7M. Coyle needs to try and work some magic and persuade Gaz he can get in the England Euro's squad with a full season here. Don't fancy our chances.

But not sure now we have any other option?
except selling him to arsenal or liverpool....
That generally requires the consent of the buying clubs. Nobody has bid yet, what exactly can we do? Nowt, other than try and offer him a new deal. Or hope a bid miraculously appears from somewhere and is suitable.
how do we know nobody has made a bid?
Lets not get into that.....

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by thebish » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:26 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:We should have sold Cahill last summer or last January if we could. Given we're where we are....

I'm not sure there is anything we can do now other than hope against hope that we can sign him up for an extra year or two.

Having said all that its not that nobody has bid what we want, nobody has bid full stop. Not even a cheeky 7M. Coyle needs to try and work some magic and persuade Gaz he can get in the England Euro's squad with a full season here. Don't fancy our chances.

But not sure now we have any other option?
except selling him to arsenal or liverpool....
That generally requires the consent of the buying clubs. Nobody has bid yet, what exactly can we do? Nowt, other than try and offer him a new deal. Or hope a bid miraculously appears from somewhere and is suitable.
how do we know nobody has made a bid?
Lets not get into that.....
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:34 pm

If we go with what the manager says though and assume we've had no bid, we can only hope he signs a new deal.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by thebish » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:36 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:If we go with what the manager says though and assume we've had no bid, we can only hope he signs a new deal.

or that he signs for liverpool or arsenal... there's plenty of window left yet...

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:46 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:If we go with what the manager says though and assume we've had no bid, we can only hope he signs a new deal.

or that he signs for liverpool or arsenal... there's plenty of window left yet...
There are two reasons for no bid though....

1) Nobody has enough interest to actually try and buy him.

2) Whoever is interested (and I'm assuming not Liverpool) want to get him on the cheap late in the window.

Either scenario, the best thing that could happen for us is if he signs a new deal, however unlikely that may be!

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:If we go with what the manager says though and assume we've had no bid, we can only hope he signs a new deal.
I'm fairly sure there's a difference between no bid and no enquiries.

OC said there had been a number of enquiries (and he's also said there have been no bids).

It sort of suggests that people are interested, but not at the £17m (or whatever) that we're telling them it'll cost.

We could also hope that there's a compromise price somewhere too (if he's going to go), rather than us just hardballing for the full buy-out clause.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:12 pm

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BWFC_Insane wrote:If we go with what the manager says though and assume we've had no bid, we can only hope he signs a new deal.
I'm fairly sure there's a difference between no bid and no enquiries.

OC said there had been a number of enquiries (and he's also said there have been no bids).

It sort of suggests that people are interested, but not at the £17m (or whatever) that we're telling them it'll cost.

We could also hope that there's a compromise price somewhere too (if he's going to go), rather than us just hardballing for the full buy-out clause.
Could mean that. Or it could mean clubs have had a look at a few, and decided against Cahill. Arsenal moving for Jagielka for example.

Could purely be a haggling game as you say, but as its August now, that can only end in tears for us if a new deal is absolutely out of the question.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:14 pm

I'm at a loss as to how you can rationalise out the position "we should have sold him in January".

Why not go one step further and add "for at least a billion ponds"?

Theres no difference between now and any other time. If no-ones bid for him, no-ones bid for him. Ultimately either someone will meet our asking price (and I'm sure there is a privately held lower threshold beyond which its pointless selling), we offer him a new contract, or he leaves at the end of the season.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:21 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Arsenal moving for Jagielka for example.
For whom they've apparently been quoted £20m. Evidently it's still half past daft on Sillyday.

EDIT: For what it's worth, one well-known bookie has odds thusly:

Gary Cahill next club: 1/2 Arsenal; 7/2 Chelsea; 6/1 Liverpool; 12/1 Tottenham; 20/1 Manchester City

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:10 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:I'm at a loss as to how you can rationalise out the position "we should have sold him in January".

Why not go one step further and add "for at least a billion ponds"?

Theres no difference between now and any other time. If no-ones bid for him, no-ones bid for him. Ultimately either someone will meet our asking price (and I'm sure there is a privately held lower threshold beyond which its pointless selling), we offer him a new contract, or he leaves at the end of the season.
You are right, but we didn't encourage bids for him in January and now were into the last year of his contract....anyways as it stands now I hope he stays!

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:15 pm

Can GC play right back? If so, we may need to keep him.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Hoboh » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:16 am

TANGODANCER wrote:Can GC play right back? If so, we may need to keep him.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by a1 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:49 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Can GC play right back? If so, we may need to keep him.
we're not going to do that.

any donkey can play fullback.

we need to keep him because lee is injured.

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Abs » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:32 pm

word is Arsenal chief scout was at the bolton levante game to check his fitness. Hope he had a good game

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Post by Athers » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:37 pm

Abs wrote:word is Arsenal chief scout was at the bolton levante game to check his fitness. Hope he had a good game
and Kenny Dalglish.
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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Abs » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:39 pm

Athers wrote:
Abs wrote:word is Arsenal chief scout was at the bolton levante game to check his fitness. Hope he had a good game
and Kenny Dalglish.
Didnt Coyle say its nonsense Liverpool are looking at him? There's Liverpool and Arsenal after new CB and two CB that both teams are looking at seems to be Cahill and Dann. I dont klnow how good neither are tbh. For some reason Wenger has been a fan of Jagielka for a long time and prefer him to Cahill. Everton fans seem to think he's a level above Cahill. Me I just want a new CB

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:42 pm

Wouldn't hold your breath with Wenger by the time he's made his mind up Cahill will have started his second career as a Sky Sports pundit!

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Re: Official Gary Cahill transfer thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:47 pm

Highest bidder wins.

Doubt we give a shit who we sell to as long as they stump up the readies.

Though to be fair he'd probably prefer a club challenging for honours. So to the back of the queue you go.
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