Here we go (aka UK riots thread)

[CrazyHorse]

compare and contrast.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011 ... NTCMP=SRCH

'An excessive sense of entitlement" was what the mayor of London ascribed to those looting their way across our sceptred isle – but he could have been referring to himself. In the mid-to-late 80s, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson – not to mention David Cameron and his now chancellor George Osborne – were members of the notorious Bullingdon Club, the Oxford university "dining" clique that smashed their way through restaurant crockery, car windscreens and antique violins all over the city of knowledge.

Not unlike a certain section of today's youth, the "Bullers" have little regard for property. Prospective members often have their rooms trashed by their new-found friends, while the club has a reputation for ritualistic plate-smashing at unsuspecting country pubs. It has been banned from several establishments, while contemporary Bullers are said to chant, at all hours: "Buller, Buller, Buller! Buller, Buller, Buller! We are the famous Bullingdon Club, and we don't give a feck!"

"This behaviour was criminal behaviour," said Johnson of the recent riots – but in the past his attitude to vandalism has been more nuanced. In his and Cameron's day, the Bullingdon was most notorious for heaving a weighty flowerpot through the window of a distinguished Oxford eaterie. Cameron, it is said, had already left the scene, but Johnson was so proud that for a time he claimed he was arrested for his part in these exploits. In fact, he simply hid in the shrubbery at the city's botanical gardens. Lucky there were no 24-hour magistrates' courts in those days.

Oh. Fair enough. Let all the kids off scot free then.

[thebish]

Oh. Fair enough. Let all the kids off scot free then.

where did anyone suggest that???

[CrazyHorse]

Oh. Fair enough. Let all the kids off scot free then.

where did anyone suggest that???

What were you suggesting then? Because what you posted bore no relevance whatsoever to the events of the last week.

[thebish]

Oh. Fair enough. Let all the kids off scot free then.

where did anyone suggest that???

What were you suggesting then? Because what you posted bore no relevance whatsoever to the events of the last week.

I beg to differ. Boris stands up to lambast people for trashing private property (and being proud of it) because of their "sense of entitlement".

that's blatant hypocrisy - and so, entirely relevant in that is it about what the Mayor of London said about what is happening.

I don't know how you could read " Let all the kids off scot free then." from what I wrote... how did you do that?

[Lofthouse Lower]

For fuc k's sake

[Lord Kangana]

Were members of the Bullingdon Club let off scott free?

Its just a question.

[CrazyHorse]

I beg to differ. Boris stands up to lambast people for trashing private property (and being proud of it) because of their "sense of entitlement".

that's blatant hypocrisy - and so, entirely relevant in that is it about what the Mayor of London said about what is happening.

What did you expect Boris to stand up and do? Laugh and say well done kids, you've done me and the gents from the Buller proud?

I don't know how you could read " Let all the kids off scot free then." from what I wrote... how did you do that?

I'll ask you again and try not to sidestep the question this time. What were you suggesting with your post?

[Lord Kangana]

That he's a bit of a hypocrite I'd suggest.

[thebish]

I beg to differ. Boris stands up to lambast people for trashing private property (and being proud of it) because of their "sense of entitlement".

that's blatant hypocrisy - and so, entirely relevant in that is it about what the Mayor of London said about what is happening.

What did you expect Boris to stand up and do? Laugh and say well done kids, you've done me and the gents from the Buller proud?

I don't know how you could read " Let all the kids off scot free then." from what I wrote... how did you do that?

I'll ask you again and try not to sidestep the question this time. What were you suggesting with your post?

I was suggesting what I just said plainly - Boris is a total hypocrite. how did I sidestep any question? I said that plainly.

not sure what your problem is here...

[Bruce Rioja]

I was suggesting what I just said plainly - Boris is a total hypocrite. how did I sidestep any question? I said that plainly.

not sure what your problem is here...

So are you therefore suggesting that The Mayor of London should just have kept schtum about it then?

[Lord Kangana]

If all comparable crimes were punished comparably, I suspect the mayor of London wouldn't be Boris Johnson.

That may or may not be bish's point, I don't really know.

[thebish]

Were members of the Bullingdon Club let off scott free?

Its just a question.

here they are...



Boris is obvious! Dave is second from the left on the back row as we look at it.

At some point after the dinner, the group walked through Oxford when one (thought to be Ewen Fergusson, though exact recollections differ) threw a huge plant pot through the window of a restaurant.
The burglar alarm was activated and police descended with sniffer dogs. Six of the group were collared and spent the night at Cowley police station before being released without charge.
"David Cameron was one of the four people who escaped," a witness says. "If it wasn't for his foresight, he'd have spent a night in the clink.

so - yeah - pretty much scot free...

[Hoboh]

I beg to differ. Boris stands up to lambast people for trashing private property (and being proud of it) because of their "sense of entitlement".

that's blatant hypocrisy - and so, entirely relevant in that is it about what the Mayor of London said about what is happening.

What did you expect Boris to stand up and do? Laugh and say well done kids, you've done me and the gents from the Buller proud?

I don't know how you could read " Let all the kids off scot free then." from what I wrote... how did you do that?

I'll ask you again and try not to sidestep the question this time. What were you suggesting with your post?

I was suggesting what I just said plainly - Boris is a total hypocrite. how did I sidestep any question? I said that plainly.

not sure what your problem is here...

Even I'd be prepared to think folks attitudes can change,if they survive being shot in the first place! Boris and his bullshitters would still be locked up with plenty time to reflect, but seeing we live in a sociaty driven by leftie do gooders aided in no small part by Gods army turning the other cheek why are you obsessed by Boris being in power and speaking as he does?

[Lofthouse Lower]

Hoboh speaks, the world listens

[thebish]

I was suggesting what I just said plainly - Boris is a total hypocrite. how did I sidestep any question? I said that plainly.

not sure what your problem is here...

So are you therefore suggesting that The Mayor of London should just have kept schtum about it then?

nope - i don't believe I said he should maintain silence -

merely that he is a hypocrite - and that a good number of the movers and shakers of Cameron's retinue have themselves indulged in remarkably similar acts of random vandalism out of a sense of "entitlement".

[CrazyHorse]

I beg to differ. Boris stands up to lambast people for trashing private property (and being proud of it) because of their "sense of entitlement".

that's blatant hypocrisy - and so, entirely relevant in that is it about what the Mayor of London said about what is happening.

What did you expect Boris to stand up and do? Laugh and say well done kids, you've done me and the gents from the Buller proud?

I don't know how you could read " Let all the kids off scot free then." from what I wrote... how did you do that?

I'll ask you again and try not to sidestep the question this time. What were you suggesting with your post?

I was suggesting what I just said plainly - Boris is a total hypocrite. how did I sidestep any question? I said that plainly.

not sure what your problem is here...

That's your answer? You were suggesting Boris is a hypocrite? Obviously he should resign immediately.
Big wow. You're one too. So am I. So is fcking everyone.

People are scared to go out, others have lost everything. Several are dead. But that's ok because you can use it to point out Boris Johnson is a dirty hypocrite.

[Bruce Rioja]

I was suggesting what I just said plainly - Boris is a total hypocrite. how did I sidestep any question? I said that plainly.

not sure what your problem is here...

So are you therefore suggesting that The Mayor of London should just have kept schtum about it then?

nope - i don't believe I said he should maintain silence -

merely that he is a hypocrite - and that a good number of the movers and shakers of Cameron's retinue have themselves indulged in remarkably similar acts of random vandalism out of a sense of "entitlement".

So, in conclusion, damned if he does and damned if he doesn't?! Glad we cleared that up.

[thebish]

That's your answer? You were suggesting Boris is a hypocrite? Obviously he should resign immediately.
Big wow. You're one too. So am I. So is fcking everyone.

People are scared to go out, others have lost everything. Several are dead. But that's ok because you can use it to point out Boris Johnson is a dirty hypocrite.

I have not called for Boris's resignation (you made that up)
I have not suggested all the kids should be let off scot free (you made that up)
I haven't called Boris "dirty" (you made that up)

I have pointed out the hypocrisy of those now making statements about "entitlement".

your problem??

[thebish]

I was suggesting what I just said plainly - Boris is a total hypocrite. how did I sidestep any question? I said that plainly.

not sure what your problem is here...

So are you therefore suggesting that The Mayor of London should just have kept schtum about it then?

nope - i don't believe I said he should maintain silence -

merely that he is a hypocrite - and that a good number of the movers and shakers of Cameron's retinue have themselves indulged in remarkably similar acts of random vandalism out of a sense of "entitlement".

So, in conclusion, damned if he does and damned if he doesn't?! Glad we cleared that up.

what would I have "damned" Boris for if he "didn't" trolley on about "entitlement"? You've lost me.

I praised Boris for getting a broom out - I slagged him for hypocrisy over "entitlement"

[CrazyHorse]

That's your answer? You were suggesting Boris is a hypocrite? Obviously he should resign immediately.
Big wow. You're one too. So am I. So is fcking everyone.

People are scared to go out, others have lost everything. Several are dead. But that's ok because you can use it to point out Boris Johnson is a dirty hypocrite.

I have not called for Boris's resignation (you made that up)
I have not suggested all the kids should be let off scot free (you made that up)
I haven't called Boris "dirty" (you made that up)

I have pointed out the hypocrisy of those now making statements about "entitlement".

your problem??

People are scared to go out, others have lost everything. Several are dead. But that's ok because you can use it to point out Boris Johnson is a dirty hypocrite.