Here we go (aka UK riots thread)

[TANGODANCER]

"I'll kill ye, ye English basta"

That's an Irish accent.

[Killie Wanderer]

Oh,and Bolton is English, so if you want to support us you'll have to be classed as a foreign supporter then.

fine by me

although Bolton do have a "scottish manager"

Foreign managers are the way to go apparently.

well, Scottish/Irish, hes "not English" so thats good for me

[Worthy4England]

Feel free to call them English riots. I'm no more doing them than you are.

The whole tarnishing the reputation of Scotland and Northern Ireland thing IS piss funny though.

not sure how associating these riots with Scotland and Northern Ireland is helping the fights that both countries are already facing.

But no one I know has once referred to them as UK riots. They've just talked about riots and/or rioting.

The press/media on the other hand - that's a different matter. But we don't get a vote on them do we?

I would suggest your disaffection should be directed at them as I think you'd find that most people in England wouldn't bat an eyelid if they were called the English riots, but wouldn't make a point about them being referred to as the UK riots, because that's where we live.

[Annoyed Grunt]

"I'll kill ye, ye English basta"

That's an Irish accent.

They're all the same to me....not English.

[Killie Wanderer]

But no one I know has once referred to them as UK riots. They've just talked about riots and/or rioting.

The press/media on the other hand - that's a different matter. But we don't get a vote on them do we?

I would suggest your disaffection should be directed at them as I think you'd find that most people in England wouldn't bat an eyelid if they were called the English riots, but wouldn't make a point about them being referred to as the UK riots, because that's where we live.

it was directed towards the media, sorry if i never mentioned that. the same with the Andy murray comment, its all media based. dont even start on 1966

[CrazyHorse]

but I think Hoss's sombre line about people dying and losing stuff is one of the funniest things I've read on here. It is perfectly reasonable when faced with a national crisis like this to examine the responses of the national leaders, and it is relevant to point out that when the mascot of London criticises folk for their shocking behaviour, in implied contrast with upstanding members of society like what he is and what we are, and thus allows us all to continue the notion that only scum do something like this, and they are just that way, and we are different, and better, and worth pointing out that he himself was guilty of pretty similar behaviour.

My god.
Pointing out people dying and losing stuff is one of the funniest things you've read on here. I don't even know how to process that statement.

This whole situation isn't the time or place to try and score cheap political points, it really isn't. That's all I'm trying to say.

[Lord Kangana]

Anyway, QT has just been on.

Short of castration or neutering the entire population of our inner cities, as usual nobody has any real, coherent long term answers.

Maybe it really is time for Hoboh.

[Worthy4England]

Anyway, QT has just been on.

Short of castration or neutering the entire population of our inner cities, as usual nobody has any real, coherent long term answers.

Maybe it really is time for Hoboh.

I'm sure we had the conversation around requiring a license to breed on here previously.

We'll wait for you all to catch up, don't worry.

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

educated black fella in audience spoke a bit of sense

rest of it was a bit of a microcosm of what a mess we are in - political leaders more interested in point scoring
difficult to find any consensus in audience

[Prufrock]

but I think Hoss's sombre line about people dying and losing stuff is one of the funniest things I've read on here. It is perfectly reasonable when faced with a national crisis like this to examine the responses of the national leaders, and it is relevant to point out that when the mascot of London criticises folk for their shocking behaviour, in implied contrast with upstanding members of society like what he is and what we are, and thus allows us all to continue the notion that only scum do something like this, and they are just that way, and we are different, and better, and worth pointing out that he himself was guilty of pretty similar behaviour.

My god.
Pointing out people dying and losing stuff is one of the funniest things you've read on here. I don't even know how to process that statement.

This whole situation isn't the time or place to try and score cheap political points, it really isn't. That's all I'm trying to say.

Fair enough, in context it read as a pretty bathetic statement. OTT sentimental. That was in context of folk chasing round yon bish's every statement, however. I don't think it is unreasonable to discuss and criticise (in its true sense) the words and actions of our political leaders. Agreeing with you on the seriousness of it, I don't think it cheapens it.

[Bruce Rioja]

Oh,and Bolton is English, so if you want to support us you'll have to be classed as a foreign supporter then.

fine by me

although Bolton do have a "scottish manager"

That Scottish manager that played for The Republic and manages in England? Hardly running round with the Saltaire on his fod now, is he?!

[Hoboh]

Here we go the problems of dealing with this stuff surfaces, the it wern't our fault culture!
Top cop having a dig at the politicians http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/police-chief- ... -critics-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best bit in there?

"What I can say is that with the unprecedented scenes that we found in London, I have got some of the best commanders that we have seen in the world... that showed great restraint as well as great courage," Mr Godwin told reporters.

FFS that just about sums up the coppers!!! Restraint? feckin' Restraint!!!!! that was the LAST thing most folk expected stinks of being sh*t scared of being sued for their actions, its not racial problems endemic in the police force its political fookin' correctness.
I noticed we had collected another Jock on here, welcome mate. I'll be more than happy to have a large moat dug to isolate Scotland even more if thats what you want but on a serious note the scottish courts and politicians back their cops and perhaps you would agree in saying restraint ain't in their rule books!!

[Bruce Rioja]

Coppers - what to do?

They get stuck in and they're being heavy-handed, they stand-off and they're not doing what they're paid to do.

Perhaps there's some half-arsed way of going about it that'll suit everyone.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Didn't the Bullingdon club tend to pay for its damage - indeed, wasn't that mostly the point?

Still, very careless of Boris to wave the red rag of 'entitlement' at the lefties, I agree.

[thebish]

Didn't the Bullingdon club tend to pay for its damage - indeed, wasn't that mostly the point?

Still, very careless of Boris to wave the red rag of 'entitlement' at the lefties, I agree.

given that they all ran off from the restaraunt-smashing incident and had to be "caught" (though - Dave got away and Boris hid in the bushes) - I doubt their initial intention was to pay for the damage...

they may have paid after smashing up restaraunts and university "digs" - but that sounds very much like - I can pay - I'm entitled to do what I like - even break the law - which was kind of the point I was making...

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Didn't they often even pay up front?!

I don't actually know, just asking.

And are you more entitled to do something if you're perfectly willing and able to pay for it... possibly.

[William the White]

Didn't they often even pay up front?!

I don't actually know, just asking.

And are you more entitled to do something if you're perfectly willing and able to pay for it... possibly.

Commit criminal damage?

[Killie Wanderer]

Oh,and Bolton is English, so if you want to support us you'll have to be classed as a foreign supporter then.

fine by me

although Bolton do have a "scottish manager"

That Scottish manager that played for The Republic and manages in England? Hardly running round with the Saltaire on his fod now, is he?!

that was my point. Coyles an example of one major probelm in Scottish football, players wanting to play for other countries. Obviously it works both ways, with Scotland gaining players from other nations, however the motives behind Scots playing for Ireland is usually down to the green side of Glasgow they support.

[thebish]

Didn't they often even pay up front?!

I don't actually know, just asking.

I don't know either - i was never invited! The fact that they were banned from several eateries suggests otherwise....

And are you more entitled to do something if you're perfectly willing and able to pay for it... possibly.

not to break the law - no, I don't think so.

[Lord Kangana]

Ooh, maybe we should have a tariff based crime sheet.

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