Wiggin game

[Wandering Willy]

Gotta say that game was anything but dull.

Ok, it was only Wigan, but we can only beat what is in front of us, and despite me being terrified we were gonna drop the points all the way through, we could have easily had a few more while Jussi had little to do. A great 3 points to hopefully spur us on to put this start behind us.

Davo looked better- penalty miss aside- best performance from him so far this season. Ngog looked good too. Love Eagles' workrate. He did so much yesterday and fully deserved his goal. Wheater was absolutely excellent. Knight should not be getting anywhere near his place.

Much better. Great atmosphere from our end too! A great day out!

Can't agree there mate. I thought KD was dreadful yesterday. Granted he had an assist but that was form a ball played in the channel for him which he was 3 yards behind the defender after jogging after it. Defender then presented him with the ball and fell over. KD promptly passed behind NGog who did well to turn and finish. If you watch the highlights again you'll see that KD gave the ball away so many times. Jussi hoofing it to him results in losing possesion 9 times out of 10. Not good enough. Surely OC can see this?- yet his in his post match interview he was full of praise for the "brave" KD. We will not progress unless we learn to play without him.



Bruce - I agree with you re Jussi. Great shot but I'd like to see at least an effort to save it.

[William the White]

For the first time in weeks I watched MOTD last night, Dont it make the weekend nicer when we get 3 points.

Doesn't it just, doesn't it feckin just! i just came on here to say precisely that and saw you'd beaten me to it...

[BWFC_Insane]

And what the feck was Jaaskelainen doing on his knees, once again, as Wigan's goal went in?

Did he see it? Not sure many would have saved it.

How could he not have seen it? And really??? You need to see it again, my friend. The camera angle flatters it. And, even if it went in the top corner I don't see how dropping to his knees is going to help. And, thankfully others are now noticing how often Jaaskelainen just drops to his knees nowadays. Great servant, blah, blah, blah, yeah, yeah, yeah, - 'spent force' is now the more appropriate description, I'm afraid.

Have seen it a few times, at the game I thought it was pretty unsaveable. Still think so.

Impossible to definitively judge keepers with shots like that though!

Guess we will never agree on that!

Still think he's better than Bogdan and Habsi, and probably better than any replacement we could have bought!

[bobo the clown]

Many years ago (Feb 1992, I looked it up) I decided, despite a downpour, to watch us take on Exeter City at Burnden. It was the Andy Walker era. He scored, yet we lost 1-2.

As the teams warmed up, in torrential rain, I noticed our keeper wasn't Branni' but some blonde geezer. It turned out Branni was injured & we loaned, for ONE game only, Gerry Payton of Burnley.

Around 30 minutes in an Exeter player, who looked exactly like the Turkish character in East Enders at the time, took a shot from outside the area. It curled into the top far corner. No-one, no-one at all, would have stopped it. Payton did a good imitation of the crouching keeper in Subbuteo as he watched it sail part him & into the net at the Lever End.

An older guy near me on the Burnden Paddock shouted " ... bloody 'ell Payton. 'a don't mind thi' lettin' one in, but yer might get muddy in't process !!"

[Lord Kangana]

Our regular keeper would have been Dave Felgate then, wouldn't it?

[Gail Platz]

Can't agree there mate. I thought KD was dreadful yesterday. Granted he had an assist but that was form a ball played in the channel for him which he was 3 yards behind the defender after jogging after it. Defender then presented him with the ball and fell over. KD promptly passed behind NGog who did well to turn and finish. If you watch the highlights again you'll see that KD gave the ball away so many times. Jussi hoofing it to him results in losing possesion 9 times out of 10. Not good enough. Surely OC can see this?- yet his in his post match interview he was full of praise for the "brave" KD. We will not progress unless we learn to play without him.

Nail. Head. I can only assume that Ngog was not feeling right that he got took off for Klasnic instead of Davies because it was clearly obvious to everyone in the ground who was the good striker and who the shockingly shit one was.

Season after season, KD has been kneeing the ball out of play, letting the ball bounce off his head to an opposition defender and 'shooting' at goal which barely even warrants being a soft pass into the opposition goalkeeper's hands. I'm surprised it's taken so long for so many Bolton fans to clock on to how poor he really is. I thought I saw light at the end of the tunnel when he got dropped at Arsenal and subbed in a couple of games, but it seems he's regained golden boy status and is immune to substitutions, regardless of how bad he is (and he was REALLY bad yesterday).

KD, you've been a great servant to the club but it's time to go.

[bobo the clown]

Our regular keeper would have been Dave Felgate then, wouldn't it?

That season it was Andy Dibble initially & Felgate came in & yes it was he who missed that Exeter game.



So it is an excellent point you make, tho the basis of the story remains, I think, overall, all things considered.

[LiOC]

Can't agree there mate. I thought KD was dreadful yesterday. Granted he had an assist but that was form a ball played in the channel for him which he was 3 yards behind the defender after jogging after it. Defender then presented him with the ball and fell over. KD promptly passed behind NGog who did well to turn and finish. If you watch the highlights again you'll see that KD gave the ball away so many times. Jussi hoofing it to him results in losing possesion 9 times out of 10. Not good enough. Surely OC can see this?- yet his in his post match interview he was full of praise for the "brave" KD. We will not progress unless we learn to play without him.

He was much better yesterday than he's been all season. Nothing near his best I'll agree. Thought he was much more involved today and generally did aquite a bit of good work, if nothing spectacular and worked hard. He shouldn't have played 90 minutes, but it was much improved from him.

[jmjhb]

How many fans did we bring?

[William the White]

Still think he's better than Bogdan and Habsi, and probably better than any replacement we could have bought!

Correctamundo... Yesterday unsaveable... If we'd scored that goal we'd have been crowing loud...

[officer_dibble]

Spent the weekend away from the world of BWFC, ended up stood on a terrace watching some league one cloggers which put a few things into perspective!!

Great result, good character/reaction as I was worried that the bad run would hit us during the winnable games.

Pleased Wheater played and Knight didn't get his place back on the basis of his second half against a strolling chelsea. Thats one you've finally worked out Owen, now the next one, Gardner for Robinson (can't comment on his performance, only him looking out of position on a couple of MotD highlights), or Davies dropped.

Yeah shite pen by Davies, hopefully he never takes another one. Get Petrov on em. Or Eagles even...? I would like to see NGog the workhorse with Klasnic in a 442 when we play it personally. Reckon that could reap goals. Klasnic is fitter, quicker, and more intelligent than Kev anyway.

As for Al Habsi, well on what I've seen of him I think he is now the better keeper out of him and Jussi but I get the decision to sell him - we were never gonna get £4m for Jussi. OR even anyone to buy Jussi. We move on. Jussi on the goal, yep probably unsaveable, but dropping to his knees argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Anyway, when alls said and done, I do love beating them inbreds!!! Onwards, and hopefully upwards.

[William the White]

Jussi on the goal, yep probably unsaveable, but dropping to his knees argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I'm not sure what you or Bruce are talking about here (and I think bobo had a little pop as well)... Do you think he drops to his knees in some absurd attempt to save it because he doesn't know it's going over a shoulder in a place it isn't possible for superman to get? Eh???

He does it cos he's feeling sick at the goal... he cares... he despairs... He is simply not at fault for conceding this in any way, shape or form... And, dibs, if you agree it's probably unsaveable, which bit of your rational mind despairs of Jussi to the point you scream??? What

[thebish]

Spent the weekend away from the world of BWFC, ended up stood on a terrace watching some league one cloggers which put a few things into perspective!!

wake up! it was Robbo! you WERE there!

[officer_dibble]

Jussi on the goal, yep probably unsaveable, but dropping to his knees argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I'm not sure what you or Bruce are talking about here (and I think bobo had a little pop as well)... Do you think he drops to his knees in some absurd attempt to save it because he doesn't know it's going over a shoulder in a place it isn't possible for superman to get? Eh???

He does it cos he's feeling sick at the goal... he cares... he despairs... He is simply not at fault for conceding this in any way, shape or form... And, dibs, if you agree it's probably unsaveable, which bit of your rational mind despairs of Jussi to the point you scream??? What

He did it before it hit the net! He does it quite a lot before it hits the net!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOsM54d22S8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My rational part of mind was thinking, ahh it would of gone in even if he had flung himself upwards at it. The non rational part of my mind usually available between 3 and 5pm most saturdays thought FFS Jussi! On yer knees again! I'm not saying he's a shit keeper, I'm saying he has a frustrating habit of dropping to his knees...same way you might not like the mrs watching eastenders or summat, not gonna dump her over it but wish she would watch coast or summat else!

[William the White]

The non rational part of my mind usually available between 3 and 5pm most saturdays

I know...

[boltonboris]

Can't believe some of the Davies guff on here. He was excellent this weekend. Proper captains performance. Superb ball retention, won very header and worked hard. It was like seeing the Davo of yesteryear.

Positives for me: The shape of the team looked good. Midfield pressed well and N'Gog dropped off making himself hard to mark. This certainly was the plan for positive 2: which was the way the team had obviously put the training ground work onto the pitch. You could see that our game plan was to create one v one situations on the flanks and up front. So we worked the triangles well and the front men were key to this

Negative: our left side looked weak, but for all of Moses' pace and trickery he had No end product. And besides, whoeve their left winger was made Petrov look like a feckin' workhorse. Eagles, Boyata and Davo murdered that side.

Also worth noting, that for the goal Martin 'trampolines for boots' Petrov carelessly lost the ball because he thought somebody might try and tackle him. Shit house

Jussi hassle no chance, no keeper would

[Riviman]

Noticed on the tv that as the players come off the pitch at the end of the game Petrov goes to Davies and Davies says to him something like " That's it you take the penalties from now on" and Petrov gives him a big grin and a hug !!

[Riviman]

Jussi on the goal, yep probably unsaveable, but dropping to his knees argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I'm not sure what you or Bruce are talking about here (and I think bobo had a little pop as well)... Do you think he drops to his knees in some absurd attempt to save it because he doesn't know it's going over a shoulder in a place it isn't possible for superman to get? Eh???

He does it cos he's feeling sick at the goal... he cares... he despairs... He is simply not at fault for conceding this in any way, shape or form... And, dibs, if you agree it's probably unsaveable, which bit of your rational mind despairs of Jussi to the point you scream??? What

He did it before it hit the net! He does it quite a lot before it hits the net!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOsM54d22S8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My rational part of mind was thinking, ahh it would of gone in even if he had flung himself upwards at it. The non rational part of my mind usually available between 3 and 5pm most saturdays thought FFS Jussi! On yer knees again! I'm not saying he's a shit keeper, I'm saying he has a frustrating habit of dropping to his knees...same way you might not like the mrs watching eastenders or summat, not gonna dump her over it but wish she would watch coast or summat else!

He does go to ground at times, the difference on the youtube clip and the Wigan goal is that the Villa scorer hits the ball downwards, so Jussi goes down , it then balloons over his head. I'm sure that as he's a far better goalkeeper than all on here he should know what he's doing !!

[CarlosHernandez]

Noticed on the tv that as the players come off the pitch at the end of the game Petrov goes to Davies and Davies says to him something like " That's it you take the penalties from now on" and Petrov gives him a big grin and a hug !!

Yep noticed that too. It's definitely what he said, so I'd say if Petrov's on the pitch, he'll take them from now on.

[aussie_wanderer]

i wasnt happy when i saw davies lining up too take penalty, thought ngog or petrov shoulda taken it, or even eagles, great result though, we should scored atleast 6 goals,