Gary Megson

[BWFC_Insane]

He called the fans disgraceful, idiotic etc.

I was at Blackburn that night and his comments were entirely justified

I certainly didn't take offence

I didn't say I was offended. It was a factual response to SWFC's question about what Megson called the fans.

That said, the idea that Megson was a lovely man who was unfairly treated by Bolton fans with Newcastle-sque delusions of grandeur is nonsense. When he came to us he already had a history of bust-ups and fall-outs at previous clubs, as well as a mediocre CV and a cloud of toxic reviews from fans of Forest, Blackpool etc about the style of football he served up. Let me prompt your memory:

- Norwich: sacked after one season
- Blackpool: 1 season, no promotion, left by mutual consent (ie, sacked)
- Stockport: 1 season, no promotion, left by mutual consent (ie, sacked)
- Stoke: moved on by new owners. Give him a pass on that.
- WBA: two promotions, one relegation, sacked/resigned after a very poor start to Albion's second spell in the PL. Fell out with not one but two chairmen in three years.
- Forest: one and a half seasons, 1 relegation, hated by fans, resigned
- Leicester: jumped ship

I was among the many who felt that a club with 8th, 6th, 8th place premiership finishes behind us could afford to show a bit more ambition than this sorry list.

I think the point Megson made about the fact the club he inherited was one bottom of the league and in total chaos was never more relevant than today.

I think people forget how bad we were under Lee. Worrying thing is we are even worse now!

[malcd1]

Had a plan A and no plan B, and his plan A was shit. Plan A was to give the ball to Zat Knight and lump it up to Kevin Davies, who won about 0.5% of headers in a season.

When we were winning a game, he'd bring off a striker and stick a defender or defensive midfielder on, and we'd go on to draw or lose the game.

He played Gavin McCann constantly.

He spent millions on absolutely shit players.

He slagged the fans off countless times.

He put a second string out against Sporting Lisbon, got us knocked out and then lost to a 10-man Wigan side three days later.

Want me to carry on?

Plan A was set piece, set piece and set piece. If we ever went in front first defend, defend and defend some more, even if we scored early in the game. Some managers just seem to click with certain teams and it appears that way with Wednesday. Megson was an awful manager for us and good riddance.

I just wish that we could score first a little bit more now as when we go behind we just don't have the creativity to come from behind.

[Loyal White]

Megson was abused from day 1

Stubborn fcuker that he is, he didn't go for building bridges, he said 'fcuk 'em'

I think this is the main issue as to why he was disliked.

A few weeks after coming in, we'd beaten United and drawn with Bayern in Germany. The majority were willing to give him a chance, Megson wasn't having any of this though and created an 'us versus them' mentality between management and the fans.

As time went on this ended up separating the fans and causing major disruption between the Megson fans and those who wanted him out.

Gartside's "those who know football understand the appointment" comment didn't help.

[Mar]

Everyone could see the writing was on the wall when Megson first got appointed. It's not because we didn't take to him, its because of how he didn't try to win over the fans but instead chose to create a divide between supporters and the club. There was a negative atmosphere around the club and it was taking its toll. I believe we could've done a lot better under Megson had he decided to change this but unfortunately he never did.

He wasted the vast majority of the funds we'd made on Anelka leaving future managers with a woeful budget and expiring contracts on other players. Which is why Owen Coyle struggled to get £4m to sign the likes of David N'Gog. After all £8.2 million on a 27 year old striker on a three year deal whose only success had come in lesser divisions like Holland, Denmark and France doesn't really inspire confidence. It seemed a questionable size of contract from the off and it proved just as bad when he failed to make an impact and subsequently couldnt flog the player.

Megson managed to keep Bolton up, season on season and it was never comfortable. He signed players that kept the squad steady but never really improved us or took us to the next level. We signed players we didn't need or weren't going to use (Riga? Shittu?) and subsequently created a divide between them and the first team leaving them to rot in the reserves. There were problems within the camp (Meite for example not wanting to play for him for the second half at Old Trafford).

I think Megson's tenure at the club did more harm than good. We had a good team when Allardyce and Lee left but we were struggling with confidence and leadership, any decent manager would've done that and progressed us. Instead we got Megson who required a complete change of policy to keep us up.

[a1]

the team lee left were fecking bobbins.

nearly as bad as now.

hughes or bust !!

[a1]

Megson was abused from day 1

Stubborn fcuker that he is, he didn't go for building bridges, he said 'fcuk 'em'

We lost in Lisbon when he played a second string - we'd been outplyed for 70 minutes of the home leg and would've probably lost anyway

Allardyce played a second string team in Europe, too...in our first ever away game, no less

Megsons team played football - in short spells - easily better than the dross Coyles lot have served up for 90% of his time with us

Megson took over when the only decent players were too old and had to build a complete team - he gets hit with a stick for spending loads - we could've got all our money back on the day he left by selling Cahill, Lee, Taylor and Muamba

To sum it up, Megson was ginger and didn't suffer fools - unfortunately, we have plenty of them 'supporting' us

Good luck to him, and you'll batter us next season


ps Mccann is better - even now, half crippled - than Pratley

its these kinda knowledge bombs that frighten me when you say something simple like 'we're down already'

fcuk

[Mar]

the team lee left were fecking bobbins.

nearly as bad as now.

hughes or bust !!

The team Sammy Lee left were bobbins? WTF

I fail to see how the likes of Diouf, Stelios, Campo, Speed, Nolan and Anelka all turned crap overnight.

If you think that the current squad is as good as the squad we had during Lee's time then you must be mad.

[a1]

The team Sammy Lee left were bobbins? WTF

I fail to see how the likes of Diouf, Stelios, Campo, Speed, Nolan and Anelka all turned crap overnight.

If you think that the current squad is as good as the squad we had during Lee's time then you must be mad.

coz he had them playing daft-as-owt-ball with crap like wilhelmson, braten etc.

its like that now. except coyle has our good players on the bench / out of the squad (muamba , ngog) , so our team is full of these 'not good enough' types (eagles , pratley), with the 'only just good' types like knight , petrov.

six good ones can carry five ok ones.

six ok ones cant carry five shite ones.

bin saying it ages , hughes would put the best team out. and theyd win.

[Lord Kangana]

McCann is more expensive, half crippled, than Pratley.

Just like the millionaire's Martin Petrov, aka Sean Davis.

[CAPSLOCK]

Sean Davis doesn't play cos he's injured

Petrov doesn't play cos the bloke who signed him leaves him out

Like he leaves NGog out

Like he doesn't fancy Wheater and Alonso

In fact, he's not done over well with his signings

[SWFC1982]

seems like certain managers and players are suited to certain clubs. so where is it going wrong for you at the moment? didnt see you fighting a relegation battle this season to be honest.

[Lord Kangana]

Sorry, just I thought that now injuries were the managers fault.

My bad.

[Worthy4England]

Sorry, just I thought that now injuries were the managers fault.

My bad.

Silly boy.

Nothing at all is the Manager's fault.

Including having no fecking clue about formation, tactics, best 11 players you have fit, what a decent back-room staff you need.

All those things are down to the previous Manager spending what little money we didn't have in the first place.

[Lord Kangana]

Perhaps Danny Shittu would have been a better comparitor then?

Although it is a bit silly comparing two players who both cost more than one of Coyle's "marquee signings" and then collectively played half the same amount of games. I'll bet the pair of them haven't even got as many wins under their belt, together. I don't even need to look that up, I'm so confident its right.

[officer_dibble]

Megson came in, did a job, and was in danger of fecking it up
Not helped by complete hatred by a section of fans, which spread, and when results were bad the fans turned quickly

The difference here is the complete apathy - Coyle's 'our' man, but even getting angry doesn't stop the players sleepwalking to defeat after defeat
Coyle has had awful luck - injuries, some refereeing decisions (no more than any other lower half premier league manager), more clubs riding the football benefactor gravy train (marginal) but still has a squad of fit and able players capable of better than the complete and utter fecking wank served up now.

We're all resigned to it - with Megson we had a chance to get the fella sacked, get someone in who could save us. Coyle rode the 'new manager' motivator wave for that season, struck gold with holden and opponents not wising up to his tactics till christmas last year, and has been abject for most of it since. The biggest mystery is how we fluked to a cup semi!

Coyle is tactically worse than Megson for sure - he's a better personal promoter though, more media savvy.

I wouldn't have Megson back now, not right for the club, and there are others we can get in who could do the same job. You'd have to be a special breed to do a job so abject as to get 17 defeats in 20 games mind.