Today I'm angry about.....

[Prufrock]

Did sex discrimination in EU law today. Controversial. I enjoyed .

As for what Bruce mentioned I'd be surprised if that is actually the case and not the papers being disingenuous AGAIN. Though if it is true it is ridiculous.

[Prufrock]

And surprise surprise, nobody has banned anything, Hamley's have changed things off their own back AND they say it is purely coincidental and has nothing to do with the 'gender apartheid campaign'.

[jmjhb]

The postal service being absolutely rubbish, yet again.

[thebish]

The postal service being absolutely rubbish, yet again.

I went to the main post office today and asked for 60 second class stamps. they didn't have ANY!! I said - "how can you have no stamps - you're the fecking post office!!" - he suggested I sent them all first class!!

I went next door and cleaned out the newsagent's supply!

agghhh!!!

[TANGODANCER]

And surprise surprise, nobody has banned anything, Hamley's have changed things off their own back AND they say it is purely coincidental and has nothing to do with the 'gender apartheid campaign'.

Really Pru? Really, really really? So they spend Lord knows how long setting uptheir store as they wished, separate floors, boys and girls, colour coordinated etc etc, then suddenly changed it all around conincidentally at he same time some woman had started a Twitter campaign against them for,what was it, "gender apartheid"? How very coincidental that was. Quite amazing in fact.

[Little Green Man]

separate floors, boys and girls, colour coordinated etc etc

Why do boys and girls have to have separate, colour-coordinated floors? (I'm not expecting you to answer that, TD, you're not a toy shop owner.) I haven't got any sprogs, but if I had, I wouldn't expect/encourage any daughter of mine to think that all things pink and fluffy were the sole objects of desire.

Oh, and I'm not a lezzer. Not last time I looked, anyway.

[Bruce Rioja]

And surprise surprise, nobody has banned anything, Hamley's have changed things off their own back AND they say it is purely coincidental and has nothing to do with the 'gender apartheid campaign'.

They would though, wouldn't they. Not what she's claiming though is it?

[Prufrock]

That was my initial first reaction, but then I thought, actually, why would they claim that? It's not a legal issue, no court has ordered them to, and they haven't (to my limited knowledge) broken the law. If it was a legal issue she'd be crowing about the verdict,open justice and all, unless the most ludicrous super-injunction of all had been laid down, in which case we might as well all give up and go home. Plenty of shops have boys and girls clothes, toys etc.... so any decision to change it must be business decision.

Now I'm not having that the most famous toy shop in the country is changing its entire store layout because of the trifling internet campaign of a woman no-one has heard of who has lost her sense of perspective. So, either it isn't just her, and plenty of mums, dads and kids are upset about this and passionate about the need to stop this gender apartheid of boys and girls toys, in which case, as mental as I think it, it is a case of a business changing its business practices to meet the demands of its customers, or as they claim they were refurbishing the shop anyway. Either way it seems pretty normal aside one from one banshee lady ?

[TANGODANCER]

separate floors, boys and girls, colour coordinated etc etc

Why do boys and girls have to have separate, colour-coordinated floors? (I'm not expecting you to answer that, TD, you're not a toy shop owner.) I haven't got any sprogs, but if I had, I wouldn't expect/encourage any daughter of mine to think that all things pink and fluffy were the sole objects of desire.

Oh, and I'm not a lezzer. Not last time I looked, anyway.

Indeed I'm not a toy shop owner LGM, I simply thought the idea of having seperate marked areas of anything was to save time by directing you to where you wanted to shop. It's worked okay for years in places like M & S, British Home Stores and supermarkets. Most kids know what they want to look at anyway, mine always did. Maybe we should have a few pink tanks, Lego and Meccano sets and put dolls and stuff in camoflague gear.

I don't really care one way or the other, but all this equality seems to be more about women getting their own way rather than any fifty-fifty stuff. I'd much rather be directed to where I want to go with no hassle or time wasting. To be honest, terms like "Gender Apparthied" make me want to say, "Oh do fxck off. If you don't like it, shop elsewhere". Probably why I'd be no good selling kids toys.

[malcd1]

This polar bear shit from the BBC.
I'm sick of folk getting in a tizz over nothing from the telly then ringing up to vent their spleen over it.
Get a life, I mean who cares?
I'm so livid I'm going to write to points of view to complain about it.

This has really annoyed me in the last couple of days listening to these sanctimonious pricks complaining of how they have been misled. Get a life you idiots.

I watched a David Attenborough programme a couple of months ago called 'First Life'. It was about the first plants, organisms and animals on planet earth around 60 million years ago. It will probably come as a bit of a shock to some people but there were no cameramen around at that time . In fact it was mainly computer generated.

[Prufrock]

separate floors, boys and girls, colour coordinated etc etc

Why do boys and girls have to have separate, colour-coordinated floors? (I'm not expecting you to answer that, TD, you're not a toy shop owner.) I haven't got any sprogs, but if I had, I wouldn't expect/encourage any daughter of mine to think that all things pink and fluffy were the sole objects of desire.

Oh, and I'm not a lezzer. Not last time I looked, anyway.

Indeed I'm not a toy shop owner LGM, I simply thought the idea of having seperate marked areas of anything was to save time by directing you to where you wanted to shop. It's worked okay for years in places like M & S, British Home Stores and supermarkets. Most kids know what they want to look at anyway, mine always did. Maybe we should have a few pink tanks, Lego and Meccano sets and put dolls and stuff in camoflague gear.

I don't really care one way or the other, but all this equality seems to be more about women getting their own way rather than any fifty-fifty stuff. I'd much rather be directed to where I want to go with no hassle or time wasting. To be honest, terms like "Gender Apparthied" make me want to say, "Oh do fxck off. If you don't like it, shop elsewhere". Probably why I'd be no good selling kids toys.

Easy to say as a bloke TD. Do a quick check of numbers of women in boardrooms, or, scandal, break the taboos and find out salaries of women doing the same jobs as men. It's a lot better than it was, but it is still far from fair.

A perfectly understandable reaction, and one that I share. I do think she has a point in there somewhere about whether kids would be better served playing with a wide range of toys (I'm not convinced it is the case boys exclusively play with action man, girls barbie anyway), but I think it's a social thing, a decision for parents, something the law shouldn't be involved in and absolutely not deserving of the the type of hyperbole that compares generic groupings of toys with racial segregation, even if she was trying to use it to make a wider point.

[Prufrock]

This polar bear shit from the BBC.
I'm sick of folk getting in a tizz over nothing from the telly then ringing up to vent their spleen over it.
Get a life, I mean who cares?
I'm so livid I'm going to write to points of view to complain about it.

This has really annoyed me in the last couple of days listening to these sanctimonious pricks complaining of how they have been misled. Get a life you idiots.

I watched a David Attenborough programme a couple of months ago called 'First Life'. It was about the first plants, organisms and animals on planet earth around 60 million years ago. It will probably come as a bit of a shock to some people but there were no cameramen around at that time . In fact it was mainly computer generated.

I think anyone who can find the time to complain in writing or by phone about a BBC David Attenborough documentary wants bloody sectioning! People who complain about TV in general, rare exceptions aside, confuse me. Just turn over. Unless it is truly appalling, and I mean like, the Queen's Speech being interrupted by Jon Snow wanking off Alex Ferguson over a crowd of MUFC clad school-children, then just turn over! By all means have a rant with your mates down the pub, or on here, but the officious wankerishness of complaining to Ofcom because you were lied to about a polar bear.....

[TANGODANCER]

Easy to say as a bloke TD. Do a quick check of numbers of women in boardrooms, or, scandal, break the taboos and find out salaries of women doing the same jobs as men. It's a lot better than it was, but it is still far from fair.

It's called evolving. In time it will equalise and then eventually role reverse. Maybe the agenda aparthied person wants lads to get ready by playing with dolls? Me, I've no objection at all to equality, bin-women, pit-girls or female sewage workers going down person-holes to be waist deep in effluence is fine with me. Let em join in. Not all men work in boardrooms. My mother spent her life working in a cotton mill and my dad labouring; I'd love them to be alive today but that's how it was in their lifetime. Life goes on, times and things change.Thus it will always be.

Now I'm off to hoover and wash the pots or it's the naughty step for me.

[Lord Kangana]

Really though, the world is actually going to ratshit and there are two pages of opinions on what an over-priced toyshop in bloodyfuckingcuntingoverratedlondon does?

Have a word with yourselves.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

break the taboos and find out salaries of women doing the same jobs as men. It's a lot better than it was, but it is still far from fair.

Not much evidence of a difference in genuinely like for like jobs and like for like experience these days.

[2399]

I am angry at myself for many reasons today.

One was it looked like someone pushed in the line at Target and I asked my partner if they did, got told no and I go Sorry.
Then later I got told the big mean looking boyfriend kept angrily staring at me! (as if he wanted to smash me) I was sad.

Then I tried to keep a kids machine $2 thingy going and it made broken noises.

[Gooner Girl]

separate floors, boys and girls, colour coordinated etc etc

Why do boys and girls have to have separate, colour-coordinated floors? (I'm not expecting you to answer that, TD, you're not a toy shop owner.) I haven't got any sprogs, but if I had, I wouldn't expect/encourage any daughter of mine to think that all things pink and fluffy were the sole objects of desire.

Oh, and I'm not a lezzer. Not last time I looked, anyway.

Havent heard anything about this but if what I am grasping is the case, Hamleys have a floor of 'boys toys' and a floor of 'girls toys'? Well that would wind me up too.

Why should girls and boys be directed to what they 'should' play with? Having boy/girl twins means I will no doubt have a wide variety of toys in the house over the years and that's how it should be whether you have different sex children or the same. I have no problem with my son playing with dolls or my daughter with a train set. Will be interesting to see over the years whether they gravitate to the stereotypes of what girls and boys are 'supposed' to play with or not. I certainly won't push that way and they will have the choice of both.

[thebish]

Will be interesting to see over the years whether they gravitate to the stereotypes of what girls and boys are 'supposed' to play with or not. I certainly won't push that way and they will have the choice of both.

hmmm... but yesterday you DID dress Jessie as an tinselly angel and Jack as a tea-towel shepherd for the toddler party...

[Gooner Girl]

Will be interesting to see over the years whether they gravitate to the stereotypes of what girls and boys are 'supposed' to play with or not. I certainly won't push that way and they will have the choice of both.

hmmm... but yesterday you DID dress Jessie as an tinselly angel and Jack as a tea-towel shepherd for the toddler party...

D'ya know, i wondered how long it would be before you came along and pointed that out as i typed my last post.

And you're right, i guess even if i don't stereotype with toys i do in other ways. Whilst Jack might occasionally wear a pink nappy if the rest are all in the wash or Jessie might wear a vest with trucks all over it i don't dress Jack in dresses and whilst i never thought i would put Jessie in especially girlie stuff i do so more then i thought....

Guess gender stereotype are there in all of us.

Does seem a bit unfair though, its not generally seen as weird for a girl to wear blue and play with trains, as it is for a boy to wear pink and play with dolls. Whys that then?

[thebish]

Does seem a bit unfair though, its not generally seen as weird for a girl to wear blue and play with trains, as it is for a boy to wear pink and play with dolls. Whys that then?

because the world is biased against boys! simple.