CH's all singing all dancing transfer gossip thread on toast

[bobo the clown]

There's a difference between "given his marching orders" and "if a decent offer comes in ...".

He's 33 (I think), not improving and can look forward to bench-time which has never happened to him since the Southampton days. If he says "this isn't for me" and we get an offer then good luck to him. If he's OK with that for a while he's well worth keeping there.

[Prufrock]

Try 35 in March.

[bobo the clown]

Try 35 in March.

You should be in the kitchen, not reading this.

Any-road-up ...... Then my above remarks, with knobs on.

[seanworth]

Wasn`t Eaves being groomed to replace KD before his injury. What Happened to him. Is he still injured

[Salford Trotter]

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Smoldering kindle around a possible sale of the New York Red Bulls’ Tim Ream to Bolton.


Wandering?
While nothing is confirmed and Ream’s wedding–to a US bride, not to a new team–has been cited as the reason he is not in Jurgen Klinsmann’s January Camp, the move would seem to make a lot of sense and offers the opportunity to investigate a few things around both the teams and leagues:

• First, it would seem the Red Bulls are selling at a valley in Ream’s value. After his rookie campaign, there seemed to be signs and assurances everywhere that Ream would be the first in line to claim the mantle that Carlos Bocanegra has held most recently at US left centerback. Ream’s second campaign however saw decidedly uneven play in 1-on-1 defending and his team the subject of one salacious locker room accusation after another.

In short, it’s not hard to figure that Ream’s value–the price being mulled ($1.5M) seems exceedingly low–probably dropped some in 2011. One also has to wonder if the off-field situation in New Jersey impacted Ream’s desire to move abroad earlier–by all accounts both MLS and Ream probably had more to gain after another year of seasoning.

• Continuing with the price, Ream’s sale would seem to be the catalyst for the long-rumored Gary Cahill move from the Reebok. Cahill, a terribly overrated centerback who nevertheless has English blood and thus has homegrown value, is rumored headed on to Chelsea as a seeming heir apparent for John Terry or cover is Terry is found guilty of racial abuse charges that will come to bear, or rather, be decided in February.

Fascinating here in that the continued discrepancy between MLS salaries and Euro salaries will probably make these sorts of move more and more frequent (think George John to Blackburn) in the future. That’s a good thing for US Soccer. English player A, from Premiership bottom table feeder club B is sold to top table side C and then an American is brought in as a cheap and capable replacement.

The US doesn’t have many trade balances in their favor, but it stands to reason this would be a boon for the league as a whole.

• Who’s next after Ream and how much–truly–did words from Jurgen Klinsmann help. Ream and now Robbie Rogers seem to be getting much more frequent press and looks than they did in the past. Just how much of a power player is Klinsmann becoming both in the States–where national team caps are a necessity for overseas work permits–and abroad where cheap stop-gap or squad players help out budgets more and more constrained by FIFA Fair Play rules.

• One can point to agents as well as grabbing a larger and larger foothold in Europe with the volume of American players on the rise. Scandinavia was always a destination point, but now clubs like Everton, West Brom and Bolton are seeded with players and relationships are built for larger pipelines as well.

It used to be Lyle Yorks who’s calling card was “I’ll get you to Europe.” It still is, but Richard Motzkin (Landon, etc.) with Wasserman has become even a much bigger player abroad with his roster. James Grant, etc.

• And what for Bolton? Don’t expect the Wanderers to can legend Owen Coyle after he unceremoniously departed Burnley just a few short seasons ago. Coyle’s had injuries–more impactful for a team with a thin budget–and really lacks star power. That said, Ream is still affordable if Bolton somehow get relegated. Bolton won’t get relegated mind you.

• Oh, and who’s next? Is it Rogers in fact? George John? Geoff Cameron? Luis Gil? Todd Dunivant? …Cmon, Dunivant.

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A very good move here if it comes to fruition for Bolton. A solid move for Ream. Another challenging player move for the New York Red Bulls.




Looks like its a done deal...

[clapton is god]

"Owen Coyle wants Bolton target Tim Ream to take his honeymoon in Horwich. The American centre-half is getting married in his homeland this weekend, just as the Trotters are set to seal a £2.5m deal to buy him from MLS side New York Red Bulls."
Full story: Daily Mirror

I can think of worse places to have a honeymoon....if I think hard.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Can somebody translate that American claptrap? Although I doubt it's worth the effort...

[CrazyHorse]

Can somebody translate that American claptrap? Although I doubt it's worth the effort...

Basically it's a piece about the US Invasion of arse-end English Premiership clubs. It rambles on without mentioning Stuart Holden even once and I suspect was written by our very own ex and current BurndenAces member H Pedersen. I guess he was right about American soccerball players of America being awesome dudes all along.
Not sure what the smoldering kindle is though. Has his e-reader caught fire?

[BWFC_Insane]

Can somebody translate that American claptrap? Although I doubt it's worth the effort...

I posted similar, but post didn't work...

Don't know what the hell its waffling on about but the few bits written in our native tongue seem utter nonsense to me...

[boltonboris]

It's difficult to ascertain! Is it positive, negative? Condescending, or complimentary? feck knows... It's shit anyway

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Of course, there are substantial differences between US and UK English - I'm enjoying a rambling but fascinating Bill Bryson book Made in America on that very subject - but I'm fairly sure they don't confuse "who's" and "whose".

Whatever language it's in, it's torturously tortuous. "Who’s next after Ream and how much–truly–did words from Jurgen Klinsmann help" isn't a sentence, it's a mess.

[TKIZ!]

Who's this Robbie Rogers fella? Is he any good? Is he Roy Rogers brother? etc

[Prufrock]

That Yank is a tool. There. Sowted.

[Bruce Rioja]

Does it mention Cobi Jones or Roy Wegerle?

I'd read it myself but it started to make my fecking eyes sting!!!!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Back on track, and QPR - who've also bid £1.5m for Yakubu – have offered £5m for Chris Samba. None of which affects us particularly except that Rangers are Rovers are our relegation rivals and, more pertinently, QPR are said to have offered £2.5m for erstwhile Whites target Nedum Onuoha, who must be a better option than "decidedly uneven" Ream.

[boltonboris]

They'll have to shell out more than that for both players I'd imagine.

[bobo the clown]

Of course, there are substantial differences between US and UK English - I'm enjoying a rambling but fascinating Bill Bryson book Made in America on that very subject - but I'm fairly sure they don't confuse "who's" and "whose".

Whatever language it's in, it's torturously tortuous. "Who’s next after Ream and how much–truly–did words from Jurgen Klinsmann help" isn't a sentence, it's a mess.

Bryson's book is one of the best I've ever read. Utterly fascinating.

The article above ... wow. I'm surprised the guy can even type his own name.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

They'll have to shell out more than that for both players I'd imagine.

QPR for Yakubu and Samba? Yeah, Rovers have told 'em to lump it. Notable though that Warnock has started the bidding low. Rovers want £10m for Samba - he is, after all, their best defender and attacker - while the £1.5m is apparently Yakubu's relegation-release clause fee.

Bobo: if you haven't already, try Mother Tongue, too.

[bobo the clown]

Bobo: if you haven't already, try Mother Tongue, too.

Thanks, I will. I'm on p450 of his 'At Home' right now.

[TKIZ!]

Back on track, and QPR - who've also bid £1.5m for Yakubu – have offered £5m for Chris Samba. None of which affects us particularly except that Rangers are Rovers are our relegation rivals and, more pertinently, QPR are said to have offered £2.5m for erstwhile Whites target Nedum Onuoha, who must be a better option than "decidedly uneven" Ream.

I think it might be Onuoha's intention to try and stay in the North West though as his mum has been really ill plus she's his agent