The Politics Thread

[Hoboh]

to sum up;

BWFCI wants an open purse sociaty

Most others want an affordable sociaty

Simples, get your free Meerkat here

[thebish]

is it just me who thinks this - or does Alex Salmond need a fecking big slap?

No first minister Fish needs help to hold a referendum ASAP then we are rid of the leech!
Lets see how long the jocks will put up with the tax bill he will land them with and how they will enjoy passport control in the borders alongside all the levies we hopefully will introduce alongside pulling all military and navel bases out of his 3/4 lump of rock of a country!

as far as I can see - he's kind-of back-tracking/hedging his bets on the independence referendum - insisting on there also being the so-called "devo-max" proposal on the ballot paper - because he knows he'll lose an independence vote (though - having said that - the chances of a "unionist" campaign being successfully mounted by the tories and scottish labour are looking slim - and they might very well hand it to him on a plate!)

hoboh - how much to reckon it might cost to relocate our nuclear-weapons facilities out of scotland?

[BWFC_Insane]

to sum up;

BWFCI wants an open purse sociaty

Most others want an affordable sociaty

Simples, get your free Meerkat here

No, I want a society where we look after each other. Where corporate and personal greed does not dominate.

Where people are intelligent enough to look behind the inflammatory headlines and politicians lies.

Where people with needs are helped and encouraged, and not disenfranchised.

Where people are given the opportunity and encouragement to work.

Where all nationalities, races and religions are treated with respect and dignity.

Where criminals of all ages, races, are treated appropriately, and properly discouraged from re-offending.

Where teachers are given the respect they deserve from society, parents and their pupils.

etc etc....

[thebish]

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed - we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave-owners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a desert state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama little black boys and little black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.

This is our hope. This is the faith that I will go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope.

With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day, this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning: "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring." And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.

And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.
Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.
Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania!
Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.
Let freedom ring from the curvaceous peaks of California.
But not only that.
Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.
Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.
Let freedom ring from every hill and every molehill of Mississippi, from every mountainside, let freedom ring!

And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: "Free at last! Free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"

[Hoboh]

is it just me who thinks this - or does Alex Salmond need a fecking big slap?

No first minister Fish needs help to hold a referendum ASAP then we are rid of the leech!
Lets see how long the jocks will put up with the tax bill he will land them with and how they will enjoy passport control in the borders alongside all the levies we hopefully will introduce alongside pulling all military and navel bases out of his 3/4 lump of rock of a country!

as far as I can see - he's kind-of back-tracking/hedging his bets on the independence referendum - insisting on there also being the so-called "devo-max" proposal on the ballot paper - because he knows he'll lose an independence vote (though - having said that - the chances of a "unionist" campaign being successfully mounted by the tories and scottish labour are looking slim - and they might very well hand it to him on a plate!)

hoboh - how much to reckon it might cost to relocate our nuclear-weapons facilities out of scotland?

Jobs down here man and unemployment up there, they wanna go alone should be with no help from us besides we could recoup the outlay with a tax on everything that comes south
Beside Barrow could do with some help like the nuke subs maintainence.

[Bruce Rioja]

to sum up;

BWFCI wants an open purse sociaty

Most others want an affordable sociaty

Simples, get your free Meerkat here

Then there's a 'High Sociaty' [sic] where people on drugs come on here.

[Hoboh]

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed - we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave-owners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a desert state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama little black boys and little black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.

This is our hope. This is the faith that I will go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope.

With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day, this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning: "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring." And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.

And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.
Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.
Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania!
Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.
Let freedom ring from the curvaceous peaks of California.
But not only that.
Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.
Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.
Let freedom ring from every hill and every molehill of Mississippi, from every mountainside, let freedom ring!

And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: "Free at last! Free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"

You copying that Darlington fan bish?

I have a dream that one day I will wake up and the world will be free of murderers, rapists. Peodo's hoodies and folk hiding behind religon to create carnage, a dream money will not be the God of everything, kids will be kids again and teachers will actually teach proper stuff not all the namby pamby projects most of which get copied out of text books, law and order is upheld and imigration is strictly limited, socialists are banned and cars not allowed on the roads on Sundays only 2 wheel vehicles.

[BWFC_Insane]

to sum up;

BWFCI wants an open purse sociaty

Most others want an affordable sociaty

Simples, get your free Meerkat here

Then there's a 'High Sociaty' [sic] where people on drugs come on here.

Thats just 2399 isn't it?

[thebish]

is it just me who thinks this - or does Alex Salmond need a fecking big slap?

No first minister Fish needs help to hold a referendum ASAP then we are rid of the leech!
Lets see how long the jocks will put up with the tax bill he will land them with and how they will enjoy passport control in the borders alongside all the levies we hopefully will introduce alongside pulling all military and navel bases out of his 3/4 lump of rock of a country!

as far as I can see - he's kind-of back-tracking/hedging his bets on the independence referendum - insisting on there also being the so-called "devo-max" proposal on the ballot paper - because he knows he'll lose an independence vote (though - having said that - the chances of a "unionist" campaign being successfully mounted by the tories and scottish labour are looking slim - and they might very well hand it to him on a plate!)

hoboh - how much to reckon it might cost to relocate our nuclear-weapons facilities out of scotland?

Jobs down here man and unemployment up there, they wanna go alone should be with no help from us besides we could recoup the outlay with a tax on everything that comes south
Beside Barrow could do with some help like the nuke subs maintainence.

so - that would be how much?

[thebish]

<load of bollox snipped>

and cars not allowed on the roads on Sundays only 2 wheel vehicles.

Amen, brother!

[Hoboh]

is it just me who thinks this - or does Alex Salmond need a fecking big slap?

No first minister Fish needs help to hold a referendum ASAP then we are rid of the leech!
Lets see how long the jocks will put up with the tax bill he will land them with and how they will enjoy passport control in the borders alongside all the levies we hopefully will introduce alongside pulling all military and navel bases out of his 3/4 lump of rock of a country!

as far as I can see - he's kind-of back-tracking/hedging his bets on the independence referendum - insisting on there also being the so-called "devo-max" proposal on the ballot paper - because he knows he'll lose an independence vote (though - having said that - the chances of a "unionist" campaign being successfully mounted by the tories and scottish labour are looking slim - and they might very well hand it to him on a plate!)

hoboh - how much to reckon it might cost to relocate our nuclear-weapons facilities out of scotland?

Jobs down here man and unemployment up there, they wanna go alone should be with no help from us besides we could recoup the outlay with a tax on everything that comes south
Beside Barrow could do with some help like the nuke subs maintainence.

so - that would be how much?

Who cares we'd get it back with interest and keep local hard done by communities happy and working.
I'd have nukes in my back yard no problemo

Btw bollox? resorting to insults now bish? not very you is it?

[thebish]

Who cares we'd get it back with interest and keep local hard done by communities happy and working.
I'd have nukes in my back yard no problemo

Btw bollox? resorting to insults now bish? not very you is it?

au contraire!! it's very me!

(I don't see how we'd "get it back with interest" at all... can you offer me some ball-park figures - back-of-an-envelope style will do - do illustrate?)

[Hoboh]

to sum up;

BWFCI wants an open purse sociaty

Most others want an affordable sociaty

Simples, get your free Meerkat here

No, I want a society where we look after each other. Where corporate and personal greed does not dominate. Tick

Where people are intelligent enough to look behind the inflammatory headlines and politicians lies. You cannot blame the press for everything unless you really think the Sun won it for the tory's

Where people with needs are helped and encouraged, and not disenfranchised.
Here here
Where people are given the opportunity and encouragement to work.
Tottally agree
Where all nationalities, races and religions are treated with respect and dignity.
Yep but any further influx is serverly curtailed and they have to play by our standerdsWhere criminals of all ages, races, are treated appropriately, and properly discouraged from re-offending.
Way to soft you don't treat you punish harshly this so called treatment like baning corprol punishment ain't worked for years so why not save the cash and whip the SOB's if they don't play ball?
Where teachers are given the respect they deserve from society, parents and their pupils.
Aye when they do their jobs and stop paying their politically intrusive unions

etc etc....

See give or take the odd nuke or two we ain't more than half a million years apart

[thebish]

anyway...

the meeja is dressing the independence referendum as a straight Cameron vs Salmond battle...

and - I'm hoping Cameron wipes the floor with him...

[BWFC_Insane]

to sum up;

BWFCI wants an open purse sociaty

Most others want an affordable sociaty

Simples, get your free Meerkat here

No, I want a society where we look after each other. Where corporate and personal greed does not dominate. Tick

Where people are intelligent enough to look behind the inflammatory headlines and politicians lies. You cannot blame the press for everything unless you really think the Sun won it for the tory's

Where people with needs are helped and encouraged, and not disenfranchised.
Here here
Where people are given the opportunity and encouragement to work.
Tottally agree
Where all nationalities, races and religions are treated with respect and dignity.
Yep but any further influx is serverly curtailed and they have to play by our standerdsWhere criminals of all ages, races, are treated appropriately, and properly discouraged from re-offending.
Way to soft you don't treat you punish harshly this so called treatment like baning corprol punishment ain't worked for years so why not save the cash and whip the SOB's if they don't play ball?
Where teachers are given the respect they deserve from society, parents and their pupils.
Aye when they do their jobs and stop paying their politically intrusive unions

etc etc....

See give or take the odd nuke or two we ain't more than half a million years apart

Lots of people believe headlines in the press. Its dangerous. As a country we're not nearly cynical or investigative enough to actually look up the facts.

Think you miss the point on races, nationalities etc, I want to encourage diversity, open up our minds, not say that everyone has to "do what we say". Obviously within the bounds of our laws....

I didn't specify what deterrents to crime would be. I'd be happy with anything that is proven to work.

Teachers unions "overly intrusive"? Do me a favour....

[Hoboh]

Who cares we'd get it back with interest and keep local hard done by communities happy and working.
I'd have nukes in my back yard no problemo

Btw bollox? resorting to insults now bish? not very you is it?

au contraire!! it's very me!

(I don't see how we'd "get it back with interest" at all... can you offer me some ball-park figures - back-of-an-envelope style will do - do illustrate?)

Your hard work you are! Right it might cost as an example 50 mill quid to move the subs and we stick levies on any goods coming out of Scotland
Oh errrr forget that just seen this

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Scotland was £131,163 million, including oil and gas produced in Scottish waters, for 2009-10

LET THEM GO PLEASE

[thebish]

£50 million???? to relocate Trident??

what planet are you on?? ahhhhh - planet Hoboh!

[Hoboh]

to sum up;

BWFCI wants an open purse sociaty

Most others want an affordable sociaty

Simples, get your free Meerkat here

No, I want a society where we look after each other. Where corporate and personal greed does not dominate. Tick

Where people are intelligent enough to look behind the inflammatory headlines and politicians lies. You cannot blame the press for everything unless you really think the Sun won it for the tory's

Where people with needs are helped and encouraged, and not disenfranchised.
Here here
Where people are given the opportunity and encouragement to work.
Tottally agree
Where all nationalities, races and religions are treated with respect and dignity.
Yep but any further influx is serverly curtailed and they have to play by our standerdsWhere criminals of all ages, races, are treated appropriately, and properly discouraged from re-offending.
Way to soft you don't treat you punish harshly this so called treatment like baning corprol punishment ain't worked for years so why not save the cash and whip the SOB's if they don't play ball?
Where teachers are given the respect they deserve from society, parents and their pupils.
Aye when they do their jobs and stop paying their politically intrusive unions

etc etc....

See give or take the odd nuke or two we ain't more than half a million years apart

Lots of people believe headlines in the press. Its dangerous. As a country we're not nearly cynical or investigative enough to actually look up the facts.

Think you miss the point on races, nationalities etc, I want to encourage diversity, open up our minds, not say that everyone has to "do what we say". Obviously within the bounds of our laws....

I didn't specify what deterrents to crime would be. I'd be happy with anything that is proven to work.

Teachers unions "overly intrusive"? Do me a favour....

They were responsable for the break down of discipline in schools and treat the kids future lightly with all the "action" they keep taking which effects adults trying to go to work by leaving them no option other than to take time off impacting on the ecconomy, so yes intrusive!

[Hoboh]

£50 million???? to relocate Trident??

what planet are you on?? ahhhhh - planet Hoboh!

Why? how much will it take to sail a couple of subs to barrow or portsmouth were the inferstructure is in place already?
Just think of the jobs and boost to local econnomys bish
Just as an after thought we should target the scottish white elephant in Edinbrugh with cruise missiles right after independance because we could deem them historially a terrorist state

[Hoboh]

£50 million???? to relocate Trident??

what planet are you on?? ahhhhh - planet Hoboh!