Game Against The Scouse
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Old codgers have a tendency to get argumentative and cantankerous and argue about anything.truewhite15 wrote:Whoa there fellas, let's not have any arguments over what I said. I clarified my point just afterwards...
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Indeed you did. There weren't any arguments in the first place, just views.truewhite15 wrote:Whoa there fellas, let's not have any arguments over what I said. I clarified my point just afterwards...
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indeed - the same view, as it turns out...TANGODANCER wrote:Indeed you did. There weren't any arguments in the first place, just views.truewhite15 wrote:Whoa there fellas, let's not have any arguments over what I said. I clarified my point just afterwards...
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What is the history between Bellamy and NRC?
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earlier on - didn't someone say that Bellamy called NRC a "sh$t Kieron Dyer"?? or summat like that...jaffka wrote:What is the history between Bellamy and NRC?
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thebish wrote:indeed - the same view, as it turns out...TANGODANCER wrote:Indeed you did. There weren't any arguments in the first place, just views.truewhite15 wrote:Whoa there fellas, let's not have any arguments over what I said. I clarified my point just afterwards...

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Think most have covered my thoughts on this game already. That was the best performance since we were 3-0 up against Wolves at their place when we looked awesome. That performance was the exact reason I wanted us to keep Coyle as I know he has a team capable of performing like that. The players yesterday looked like they actually gave a feck for once.
We bossed it, so pleased Nigel got the captaincy, let's give it him for good. Loved his interview on MOTD, what a man. Muamba did exactly what he should have done, covered the full backs when they were out of position, great work rate from him. Eagles had one of his few brilliant games, just a shame his shooting was a bit off. Ngog, best performance of the season, worked his bollocks off and would have been great to see him get a goal.
Man of the match deservedly so was Mark Davies, I've been banging on for months now that he should have a central midfield spot, he's not a right winger, never has been and never will be, he proved to everyone yesterday that his best position is in a 5 man midfield in the centre, darting into the box. I can't think of anyone better than him for it at the moment.
Big Zat too, I've been one of his biggest critics this season but for those slagging him off yesterday can well and truly get fecked. Put in a great shift, yes he made an error for the goal but the amount of pace Bellamy has, Zat did brilliantly well to only let him through once. Made some great blocks and Cahill leaving may be an additional blessing in disguise, the opportunity is now there for a new partnership to be formed and both centre backs made a point to the manager to become the new first choice.
I know it's a big ask as Arsenal are probably the last team I want to see us try and pass to death, but here's to a victory against them next week!
We bossed it, so pleased Nigel got the captaincy, let's give it him for good. Loved his interview on MOTD, what a man. Muamba did exactly what he should have done, covered the full backs when they were out of position, great work rate from him. Eagles had one of his few brilliant games, just a shame his shooting was a bit off. Ngog, best performance of the season, worked his bollocks off and would have been great to see him get a goal.
Man of the match deservedly so was Mark Davies, I've been banging on for months now that he should have a central midfield spot, he's not a right winger, never has been and never will be, he proved to everyone yesterday that his best position is in a 5 man midfield in the centre, darting into the box. I can't think of anyone better than him for it at the moment.
Big Zat too, I've been one of his biggest critics this season but for those slagging him off yesterday can well and truly get fecked. Put in a great shift, yes he made an error for the goal but the amount of pace Bellamy has, Zat did brilliantly well to only let him through once. Made some great blocks and Cahill leaving may be an additional blessing in disguise, the opportunity is now there for a new partnership to be formed and both centre backs made a point to the manager to become the new first choice.
I know it's a big ask as Arsenal are probably the last team I want to see us try and pass to death, but here's to a victory against them next week!
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Thats it? Must be something much more than that.thebish wrote:earlier on - didn't someone say that Bellamy called NRC a "sh$t Kieron Dyer"?? or summat like that...jaffka wrote:What is the history between Bellamy and NRC?
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yeah - there is more - Bellamy is a cock-end...jaffka wrote:Thats it? Must be something much more than that.thebish wrote:earlier on - didn't someone say that Bellamy called NRC a "sh$t Kieron Dyer"?? or summat like that...jaffka wrote:What is the history between Bellamy and NRC?
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That would be like calling Kevin Davies a shit Jermain Defoe?
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http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/6 ... -reo-coker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;jaffka wrote:What is the history between Bellamy and NRC?
.... except he's fit now & again.When Craig Bellamy was at West Ham, he was once asked what he thought of the soon-to-arrive Kieron Dyer. "He's like Reo-Coker, except he can play," came Bellamy's response.
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of one thing we can be sure - it is conclusive proof that Liverpool are persecuted by the media,,,
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'The anti-liverpool agenda continues, funny how Bellamy is made out to be the bad man in this article, as far as I could see last night it was Reo-Coker who was being aggresive by getting in Bellamys face trying to wind him up but of course the media go running to Reo-Coker with fingers crossed hoping/praying for it to be another incident of alleged racial abuse by a liverpool player.'
Yesterday Reo Coker was being nothing more than a Knob, as was Dempsey when we played Fulham. But because Craig's involved it must be his fault (or at least thats how the media see it).
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and except that they're two completely different kinds of midfielders!bobo the clown wrote:http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/6 ... -reo-coker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;jaffka wrote:What is the history between Bellamy and NRC?
.... except he's fit now & again.When Craig Bellamy was at West Ham, he was once asked what he thought of the soon-to-arrive Kieron Dyer. "He's like Reo-Coker, except he can play," came Bellamy's response.
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Had a bit of a boozy one after going to the game last night and just had a decent morning watching back MOTD, Goals On Sunday etc. and having a good (albeit blurry eyed) read of the morning papers. Still in ectasy over the match, not just the result but the overall performance. Would have been a achievement if we'd played like that against Macclesfield earlier in the week, yet alone a top 6 (
) side. Just a few points from my opinion, feel free to disagree
-Bogdan, Agree with all the comments previous. Looking a better, more confident keeper every time he pulls on the shirt. Has put the Chelsea incident well and truly behind of him and has come out the othe rside better for it. Please keep the faith Coyle.
- Mark Davies..just brilliant! First time i've watched us this in the last 9 months and haven't thought "what if holden had been playing" Finally all the moment's of brilliance, and glances of real class, he has shown in the last few seasons have all come together. Maybe it's the run of games and the 'Bogdan effect' where knowing he'll be involved week in/week out that has given him a little extra confidence to go out and really find some consistency. What a talent.
- Knight/Wheater, better than expected! Not the answer in the long term definitely but both more than deserving of a starting berth when need calls imo. Despite all his misgivings (and they are many!) Knight really looked as if he was taking the responsibility of being involved in a post Cahill back four seriously and what he lacks in talent it FINALLY looked like he was trying to make up in guts and know how. Also impressed by the way he calmed down NRC at half time, showed a real clear head and again took some responsibilty to make sure the situation didn't get out of hand...As for Wheater solid, commanding, good old fashioned centre back perfomance. Fear he can be a touch rash at times and commits to easily, but if he didn't he probably wouldn't be at this club.
- The others; Again agree with all the comments previous about some of the other outstanding contributions (NRC, Muamba, Petrov etc..) Felt NGog did what Super Kev hasn't been able to recently and believe Coyle bringing him to the club, and our style of play, may have been a stroke of genius. Bit too eager when it came to his finishing (probably a result of playing against his old side) and snatched at his chances but all is forgiven due to his wonderful build up play. Eagles ran himself ragged and has gone +1 in my books, really like the cut of his gib. Thought he'd be all ego when he came to the club but has proved himself well. Will more than likely be dislodged when Chung Yong returns to the side but a good lad to have on the books.
Anyway, to the most important matter at hand. Is it time to send for the spy????


-Bogdan, Agree with all the comments previous. Looking a better, more confident keeper every time he pulls on the shirt. Has put the Chelsea incident well and truly behind of him and has come out the othe rside better for it. Please keep the faith Coyle.
- Mark Davies..just brilliant! First time i've watched us this in the last 9 months and haven't thought "what if holden had been playing" Finally all the moment's of brilliance, and glances of real class, he has shown in the last few seasons have all come together. Maybe it's the run of games and the 'Bogdan effect' where knowing he'll be involved week in/week out that has given him a little extra confidence to go out and really find some consistency. What a talent.
- Knight/Wheater, better than expected! Not the answer in the long term definitely but both more than deserving of a starting berth when need calls imo. Despite all his misgivings (and they are many!) Knight really looked as if he was taking the responsibility of being involved in a post Cahill back four seriously and what he lacks in talent it FINALLY looked like he was trying to make up in guts and know how. Also impressed by the way he calmed down NRC at half time, showed a real clear head and again took some responsibilty to make sure the situation didn't get out of hand...As for Wheater solid, commanding, good old fashioned centre back perfomance. Fear he can be a touch rash at times and commits to easily, but if he didn't he probably wouldn't be at this club.
- The others; Again agree with all the comments previous about some of the other outstanding contributions (NRC, Muamba, Petrov etc..) Felt NGog did what Super Kev hasn't been able to recently and believe Coyle bringing him to the club, and our style of play, may have been a stroke of genius. Bit too eager when it came to his finishing (probably a result of playing against his old side) and snatched at his chances but all is forgiven due to his wonderful build up play. Eagles ran himself ragged and has gone +1 in my books, really like the cut of his gib. Thought he'd be all ego when he came to the club but has proved himself well. Will more than likely be dislodged when Chung Yong returns to the side but a good lad to have on the books.
Anyway, to the most important matter at hand. Is it time to send for the spy????
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@ Tango (mainly!)
i admire your loyalty to the present squad but still believe it's a tad misplaced/complacent.
we had a good win yesterday (btw i predicted we would and that we would beat Everton) but we could very easily go on a 5-6 match utter gash, energy-less, organisation-less, spineless run of defeats. we are that inconsistent.
if potentially better players become available (not a gimme that) or the two from the US are deemed to be better than what we have then they should go straight in.
we have lost too many points this season by sticking to the old guard (e.g. Klasnic,SKD,Robbo et all) based on isolated good results -Wigan Stoke for instance
i admire your loyalty to the present squad but still believe it's a tad misplaced/complacent.
we had a good win yesterday (btw i predicted we would and that we would beat Everton) but we could very easily go on a 5-6 match utter gash, energy-less, organisation-less, spineless run of defeats. we are that inconsistent.
if potentially better players become available (not a gimme that) or the two from the US are deemed to be better than what we have then they should go straight in.
we have lost too many points this season by sticking to the old guard (e.g. Klasnic,SKD,Robbo et all) based on isolated good results -Wigan Stoke for instance
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aye...Gail Platz wrote:and except that they're two completely different kinds of midfielders!bobo the clown wrote:http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/6 ... -reo-coker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;jaffka wrote:What is the history between Bellamy and NRC?
.... except he's fit now & again.When Craig Bellamy was at West Ham, he was once asked what he thought of the soon-to-arrive Kieron Dyer. "He's like Reo-Coker, except he can play," came Bellamy's response.
Kieron Dyer:

Reo Coker:

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Just saying like, but last season we didn't keep a clean sheet until Cahill was out with his blood clot, a time when Knight then came into his own. First game sans Cahill this season and Knight comes into his own once again. Coincidence? That's not a dig at Cahill, but at the two of them's ability to form an effective partnership. One swallow and all of that, I know, but I'll be watching with interest, and perhaps a little more confidence.Gail Platz wrote:
Big Zat too, I've been one of his biggest critics this season but for those slagging him off yesterday can well and truly get fecked. Put in a great shift, yes he made an error for the goal but the amount of pace Bellamy has, Zat did brilliantly well to only let him through once. Made some great blocks and Cahill leaving may be an additional blessing in disguise, the opportunity is now there for a new partnership to be formed and both centre backs made a point to the manager to become the new first choice!
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Bruce Rioja wrote:Just saying like, but last season we didn't keep a clean sheet until Cahill was out with his blood clot, a time when Knight then came into his own. First game sans Cahill this season and Knight comes into his own once again. Coincidence? That's not a dig at Cahill, but at the two of them's ability to form an effective partnership. One swallow and all of that, I know, but I'll be watching with interest, and perhaps a little more confidence.Gail Platz wrote:
Big Zat too, I've been one of his biggest critics this season but for those slagging him off yesterday can well and truly get fecked. Put in a great shift, yes he made an error for the goal but the amount of pace Bellamy has, Zat did brilliantly well to only let him through once. Made some great blocks and Cahill leaving may be an additional blessing in disguise, the opportunity is now there for a new partnership to be formed and both centre backs made a point to the manager to become the new first choice!
Cahill didn't play at Old Trafford either?
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It isn't loyalty to the present squad LTSOFN, it's what I saw yesterday: Effort, comittment, organisation - the things you list above as lacking in previous games- and a renewed energy and confidence about the side. I'm as eager as the next man to see new talent coming in,but to bang them straight in means taking somebody out. We changed a losing side and got a winning one, but more importantly,we changed our methods and it worked well. Three of our next five games are Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City. Do we really want to experiment with those? After them, hopefully, our chances of points will be much more realistic, at least in principle.lovethesmellofnapalm wrote:@ Tango (mainly!)
i admire your loyalty to the present squad but still believe it's a tad misplaced/complacent.
we had a good win yesterday (btw i predicted we would and that we would beat Everton) but we could very easily go on a 5-6 match utter gash, energy-less, organisation-less, spineless run of defeats. we are that inconsistent.
if potentially better players become available (not a gimme that) or the two from the US are deemed to be better than what we have then they should go straight in.
we have lost too many points this season by sticking to the old guard (e.g. Klasnic,SKD,Robbo et all) based on isolated good results -Wigan Stoke for instance
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No, you're right. He should've been sent off there too. Still, now he's got used to it....BWFC_Insane wrote:Bruce Rioja wrote:Just saying like, but last season we didn't keep a clean sheet until Cahill was out with his blood clot, a time when Knight then came into his own. First game sans Cahill this season and Knight comes into his own once again. Coincidence? That's not a dig at Cahill, but at the two of them's ability to form an effective partnership. One swallow and all of that, I know, but I'll be watching with interest, and perhaps a little more confidence.Gail Platz wrote:
Big Zat too, I've been one of his biggest critics this season but for those slagging him off yesterday can well and truly get fecked. Put in a great shift, yes he made an error for the goal but the amount of pace Bellamy has, Zat did brilliantly well to only let him through once. Made some great blocks and Cahill leaving may be an additional blessing in disguise, the opportunity is now there for a new partnership to be formed and both centre backs made a point to the manager to become the new first choice!
Cahill didn't play at Old Trafford either?
Still, rather than splitting hairs - have you anything to say about my overall point?
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