FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Hoboh » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:37 am

Wining becomes a habit I hope Coyle keeps that in mind plus if our players don't get up for and fancy their chances against the goonshow they shouldn't be here.

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:35 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Pratleys had his chance now...didnt even start in the cup replay
True, but we've won twice since then and the mood has lifted appreciably. It wouldn't surprise me if he started against his old club, especially as we could do without NRC & Moo having to put in 90 minutes ahead of a midweek match against Arsenal.

At the moment we're very much a first XI without any obvious replacements bursting from the bench: notable, I think, that OC didn't make any subs against Liverpool until very late. Again, this is a chance for subtle rotation - not wholesale, as momentum is important, as is retaining the new shape, especially against five midfielders - and a chance for some to stake their claim. I'd be tempted to try Tuncay either up top or in the Mavis role, although Tuncay isn't really a midfielder and I think OC may try Pratley with the licence to break forward.

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by thebish » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:40 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:Pratleys had his chance now...didnt even start in the cup replay
True, but we've won twice since then and the mood has lifted appreciably. It wouldn't surprise me if he started against his old club, especially as we could do without NRC & Moo having to put in 90 minutes ahead of a midweek match against Arsenal.

At the moment we're very much a first XI without any obvious replacements bursting from the bench: notable, I think, that OC didn't make any subs against Liverpool until very late. Again, this is a chance for subtle rotation - not wholesale, as momentum is important, as is retaining the new shape, especially against five midfielders - and a chance for some to stake their claim. I'd be tempted to try Tuncay either up top or in the Mavis role, although Tuncay isn't really a midfielder and I think OC may try Pratley with the licence to break forward.
which, unless I am very much mistaken, is Pratley's favoured role isn't it?

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:16 pm

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I think OC may try Pratley with the licence to break forward.
which, unless I am very much mistaken, is Pratley's favoured role isn't it?
He did well for us there in pre-season and had some success for Swansea in that role, but I believe he has also played as a deeper midfielder for Swansea.

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:25 pm

I'd just be happy to see him do anything that doesn't suggest that he's put his boots on the wrong feet. A dreadful footballer. Absolutely shocking!
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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by lovethesmellofnapalm » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:01 pm

Pratley = Muamba of 3 seasons ago. Easy target- there's worse than him i suspect but tbh haven't seen enough to judge yet
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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Andy Waller » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:08 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I think OC may try Pratley with the licence to break forward.
which, unless I am very much mistaken, is Pratley's favoured role isn't it?
He did well for us there in pre-season and had some success for Swansea in that role, but I believe he has also played as a deeper midfielder for Swansea.
I'd play him 6ft deeper...
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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:59 pm

I'm desperately resisting the urge to fnarr at that, because I'm not even sure why I would. It just sounds right.

Anyway, I think DSB has nailed our main problem this season, we have a squad shorn of quality-in-depth. Holden and Lee returning in midfield, and Mears and Ricketts in defence may alleviate this along with the arrival of Ream, and potentially A.N. Other. But in mitigation we have also lost Cahill and Alonso from the back, so we're not really looking in that great a shape. I fear that I may join in the cries of "throw in the kids". Which is a real pity, as I am a cup afficionado and have acquired most of favourite Wanderers memories from cup games.

But, you know, throw in the kids. Arsenal look shit at the moment.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:27 pm

Cheers LK. Injuries (Holden, Lee, Mears, Alonso) and sale (Cahill) means that, apart from the promising kids (Riley, O'Halloran, Vela), our stand-ins now amount to players whose morale is low, having left a losing team and being forced to watch what (touch wood) is becoming a winning team: K Davies, Robinson, Pratley, Boyata, Tuncay, even Klasnic - all seem shorn of confidence. Which is why I'd love to see (say) Pratley and Tuncay come in against Swansea and have successful games to follow KD's goal and Boyata's improved performance at home to Macclesfield.

I think, or perhaps rather hope, that we can beat both Swansea and Arsenal without making wholesale changes, just the odd wise stand-in and hopefully a strong early lead so we can save some legs.

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Jakerbeef » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:48 am

Would particularly like to see Riley start. It would be nice if one of the youth players turned out to be the real deal.

Played with a spring in his step on his debut so hopefully he keeps that up.

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:46 am

Jakerbeef wrote:Would particularly like to see Riley start. It would be nice if one of the youth players turned out to be the real deal.

Played with a spring in his step on his debut so hopefully he keeps that up.
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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Jokers in White » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:07 pm

I can't see many changes for this, maybe 2 but no more. I think we need to keep the winning run going, and i'm sure we will come full time sat.
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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Gail Platz » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:53 pm

Play the same team as we did against Liverpool and we'll paste them.

I went to Swansea away this season and there were two places they did us:

1) Nathan Dyer on Paul Robinson
2) Their centre midfield and centre forwards with bags of space

I'm a lot more confident Sam Ricketts can take Dyer, it's a big ask but if we kept Bellamy pretty much quiet then we can do it to Dyer. As for the midfield I expect a lot more work and effort with Muamba in there than that useless tosser Pratley that played at Swansea.

I'm going for another 3-1 to Bolton. Come on whites!

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:20 pm

4411 with klasnic uptop and tuncay. Getting klasnic back in the goals woud be useful - there isnt enough goals in the rest of the side I reckon.

not sure about centre mid - I 'get' resting fab/NRC but im just not convinced on replacements..I'd like a centre mid on loan int window thinking about it...

Boyata at centre back perhaps. Maybe Riley. Keep the rest the same.

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Post by Salford Trotter » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:00 pm

Gail Platz wrote:Play the same team as we did against Liverpool and we'll paste them.

I went to Swansea away this season and there were two places they did us:

1) Nathan Dyer on Paul Robinson
2) Their centre midfield and centre forwards with bags of space

I'm a lot more confident Sam Ricketts can take Dyer, it's a big ask but if we kept Bellamy pretty much quiet then we can do it to Dyer. As for the midfield I expect a lot more work and effort with Muamba in there than that useless tosser Pratley that played at Swansea.

I'm going for another 3-1 to Bolton. Come on whites!
As much as Ricketts has been a real asset since he came back I'm not so sure we kept Bellamy that quiet on Saturday, he scored a goal and had our defence on the back foot a number of times. I'm guessing Mears will probably be on the bench and Riley will continue his development at RB with Boyata partnering Wheater at the back. I assume Ricketts will continue at LB and as for midfield I'd go Petrov, NRC, Pratley, Muamba and Eagles with Klasnic up front.
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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:24 pm

If Jussi's fit he'll probably get the nod. We'll play 4-4-1-1 with KD up front and Klasnic in the hole. If were losing with half-an-hour to go he may swap it to N'Gog and Tuncay up front. Midfiled will be as Liverpool but with Mark Davies missing.

Jussi, Riley, Wheater, Boyata, Rickets, Eagles, Muamb, Reo Coker, Petrov, Klasnic, KD.
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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by truewhite15 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:31 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:If Jussi's fit he'll probably get the nod. We'll play 4-4-1-1 with KD up front and Klasnic in the hole. If were losing with half-an-hour to go he may swap it to N'Gog and Tuncay up front. Midfiled will be as Liverpool but with Mark Davies missing.

Jussi, Riley, Wheater, Boyata, Rickets, Eagles, Muamb, Reo Coker, Petrov, Klasnic, KD.
I can only see defeat there. We've got 451 working for us, and even against Macclesfield 442 looked decidedly toothless. As we're playing a team who loves 4231, it makes much more sense to match their formation, and not let them overrun us.

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by Relentless09 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:15 am

I can see us playing 442 and getting murdered

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Post by chris33 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:51 am

I would keep faith with Bogdan keep his confidence up.

At this moment in time even if Jussi is fit I would keep Bogdan in as if Jussi was just to walk back in after the good performances of Bogdan then it could harm the kid.

Had a mare against Chelsea a freak goal scored against him at Everton and then comes back with performances of real quality tells me he is mentally tough and he will be an excellent keeper.

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Re: FA Cup 4th Round: BWFC v Swansea

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:05 am

Relentless09 wrote:I can see us playing 442 and getting murdered
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