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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:20 pm

He's a nice person,wheater is a wholehearted player but today they had numerous opportunities to run at our slow defence and that is only down to one man. I dont think there was a lack of effort but it must be demoralizing having to play a system that you know wont work and wondering who the prick picking the team is going to single out for blame after it inevitably goes wrong.Coyle is not only proving tactically inept he isnt even man enough to accept the blame for his own mistakes. That can only kill what morale there may be left.

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:20 pm

He's a nice person,wheater is a wholehearted player but today they had numerous opportunities to run at our slow defence and that is only down to one man. I dont think there was a lack of effort but it must be demoralizing having to play a system that you know wont work and wondering who the prick picking the team is going to single out for blame after it inevitably goes wrong.Coyle is not only proving tactically inept he isnt even man enough to accept the blame for his own mistakes. That can only kill what morale there may be left.

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:31 pm

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:
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bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:I'm really not looking forward to the teamsheet for the Wigan game. Fearing a mooless 4-4-2.
That would be his McCann moment for me.If you see a fat bald old bugger with a red nose & size 28 shoes strolling up and throwing a bucket full of confetti at him, that'll be myself.
Well Bobo I await the news footage.

So sadly predictable.......

I've no idea where we go from here. 4-4-2 we dont have the right players for and we are by far the worst team in this league, 4-5-1 suits the squad and we are mid table material. It could not be more obvious - it has been obvious since August - only the person who is paid £1m per year to pick the team cant see it.
I admit to being a cowardly custard for, tempted as I was, I didn't do this.

I fckg wish I had the cajonas to have done it.

Utterly gobsmacked when I saw the teamsheet. No Moo, 4-4-2 and SKD on from the start. I was in a strange place as I want Bolton to win, of course I do, but I want this idiot to stop undermining us & if we'd got anything from this line-up then, apart from being amazed, it would have had him thinking he'd got it right.

Now we'll hear how it was the fault of everyone from Gartside to the ball boys, except himelf.
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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by Athers » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:01 pm

Just cannot believe he's made this mistake.

Everyone was so SO angry when they saw Davies rather than Reo-Coker step out of that tunnel, 20,000 of us knew what it meant.

His thinking probably, "It's only Wigan and we beat them 3-1 at their place." - Yes 3-1, one in the last minute on the break and all 3 from horrendous errors which we couldn't have counted on for this game to happen again.

All we 'created' today was 1) score a wonder goal after the ball landed on N'Gog's back, which by the way was more with a long ball than Davo had done all afternoon. 2) the Myaichi chance. This was Wigan at home ffs.

and just for good measure another goal conceded from a corner.

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by thebish » Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:04 pm

as bobo has pointed out - it might have sad consequences for KD..

had KD been gracefully retired at the beginning of this season - reputation untarnished - always a club legend...

NOW - the memories will be about the sinking feeling when he leads out the team.....

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by plymouth wanderer » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:14 pm

thebish wrote:as bobo has pointed out - it might have sad consequences for KD..

had KD been gracefully retired at the beginning of this season - reputation untarnished - always a club legend...

NOW - the memories will be about the sinking feeling when he leads out the team.....

blame coyle not SKD
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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:33 pm

well and truly pissed on that wembley goal now.

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by a1 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:40 pm

get the dick gone before its too late.

allardyce 2012 !!

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by Sponge » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:42 pm

a1 wrote:fecking bookending it good style.

get the dick gone before its too late.

allardyce 2012 !

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by Peter Thompson » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:46 am

Can someone not merge this thread with the 'JUST FCUK OFF' thread so that we have one that says what most fans are really thinking

i.e. Owen Coyle JUST FCUK OFF

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by YtarmyYtarmy » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:55 am

a1 wrote:get the dick gone before its too late.

allardyce 2012 !!
Personally I think its alreadys too late, also, I dont know who would come here now ???

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:05 pm

YtarmyYtarmy wrote:
a1 wrote:get the dick gone before its too late.

allardyce 2012 !!
Personally I think its alreadys too late, also, I dont know who would come here now ???
Surely, all you'd have to do is come in and set the team up properly. The players would have confidence that it would work and you'd get covered in glory.
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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by malcd1 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:51 pm

YtarmyYtarmy wrote:
a1 wrote:get the dick gone before its too late.

allardyce 2012 !!
Personally I think its alreadys too late, also, I dont know who would come here now ???
I wouldn't go as far as it's too late just yet. It seems like any 3 from 5 shite teams. If we play like that for the rest of the season we will be relegated by the end of March. If Owen has now seen that we just don't have the personnel to play 4-4-2, against any team in this league, then we still have a chance.

The decision is yours Owen!!!
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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by shoot and score » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:03 pm

IMAGINE HOW THE PLAYERS FEEL...... 442 knowing they stand no chance and at least in with a shout 451. Liverpool and Arsenal prime results....Do not understand the thinking of changing an improving system.....Can anyone enlighten the 20.000 fans?

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:14 pm

:lol:
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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:14 pm

malcd1 wrote:
YtarmyYtarmy wrote:
a1 wrote:get the dick gone before its too late.

allardyce 2012 !!
Personally I think its alreadys too late, also, I dont know who would come here now ???
I wouldn't go as far as it's too late just yet. It seems like any 3 from 5 shite teams. If we play like that for the rest of the season we will be relegated by the end of March. If Owen has now seen that we just don't have the personnel to play 4-4-2, against any team in this league, then we still have a chance.

The decision is yours Owen!!!

:lol:

Owen to see sense you are avin a giraffe son

he's had his chance now it's time to move the cvnt on
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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by thebish » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:41 pm

shoot and score wrote:IMAGINE HOW THE PLAYERS FEEL...... 442 knowing they stand no chance and at least in with a shout 451. Liverpool and Arsenal prime results....Do not understand the thinking of changing an improving system.....Can anyone enlighten the 20.000 fans?
let's not get carried away with ourselves... yes - the formation is one thing... but we did not have NO CHANCE with 4-4-2

we played wiggin 4-4-2 away from home and won 3-1

making them play 4-4-2 isn't the greatest idea - but it's not like he cut their legs off!!

are we REALLY saying that it is IMPOSSIBLE to beat wiggin at home with those players playing 4-4-2?? really?? if so - we are in a fecking sorry state!! Coyle has (rightly) taken stick - but it is not the only factor in play (more's the pity)

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:46 pm

thebish wrote:
shoot and score wrote:IMAGINE HOW THE PLAYERS FEEL...... 442 knowing they stand no chance and at least in with a shout 451. Liverpool and Arsenal prime results....Do not understand the thinking of changing an improving system.....Can anyone enlighten the 20.000 fans?
let's not get carried away with ourselves... yes - the formation is one thing... but we did not have NO CHANCE with 4-4-2

we played wiggin 4-4-2 away from home and won 3-1

making them play 4-4-2 isn't the greatest idea - but it's not like he cut their legs off!!

are we REALLY saying that it is IMPOSSIBLE to beat wiggin at home with those players playing 4-4-2?? really?? if so - we are in a fecking sorry state!! Coyle has (rightly) taken stick - but it is not the only factor in play (more's the pity)
You're right, not only is it the ridiculous system, but also the awful player selections within that system.

The players don't believe in the manager that much is obvious. As radio Manchester reported the body language was not of players who believed in the system or the roles they were being asked to perform.

We have more than enough to stay up were we not hampered in all the ways that have been described.

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by thebish » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:54 pm

I admire your efforts to absolve the players of all blame...

but I think that's just sticking your head in the sand...

(we have beaten wiggin this season with - near as makes no difference - THOSE same players in that formation - KD and Ngog at the top of a 4-4-2 - and that side had Pratley in FFS!)

you appear to be forgetting - it was WIGAN!!! We have the players in ANY formation to beat wigan at home if the players actually step up to the plate and play as if they give a sh&t!

(and it just sounds unbelievably whiny and ridiculous to claim that they somehow can't give their all cos the manager doesn't inspire their confidence. these are highly paid professional footballers in the top English division - so YES - they did have a chance - whatever the fecking formation - and they failed to even give it a go.)

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Re: Owen Coyle

Post by Peter Thompson » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:55 pm

thebish wrote:
shoot and score wrote:IMAGINE HOW THE PLAYERS FEEL...... 442 knowing they stand no chance and at least in with a shout 451. Liverpool and Arsenal prime results....Do not understand the thinking of changing an improving system.....Can anyone enlighten the 20.000 fans?
let's not get carried away with ourselves... yes - the formation is one thing... but we did not have NO CHANCE with 4-4-2

we played wiggin 4-4-2 away from home and won 3-1

making them play 4-4-2 isn't the greatest idea - but it's not like he cut their legs off!!

are we REALLY saying that it is IMPOSSIBLE to beat wiggin at home with those players playing 4-4-2?? really?? if so - we are in a fecking sorry state!! Coyle has (rightly) taken stick - but it is not the only factor in play (more's the pity)
Bish I understand what your saying and without doubt the players are also to blame - but we almost lost the game before we started yesterday with Coyle's team selection. Its clear to see that confidence is low and that the players look fragile and uncomfortable with playing 4-4-2, so some of them where probably puzzled by it all in the dressing room - you simply can't have a premiership midfield that has 3 attacking players in a 4 man midfield, we are wide open.

If Coyle had any tactical nouse or managerial ability, then after 20 / 25 mins yesterday when it was clear to most fans that bottom of the league Wigan were being made to look like Barcelona with 70 - 80% possession, they were controlling midfield and we couldn't get hold of the ball and you could see that a goal was coming, he should have changed things and brought on Muamba for the yet again ineffective KD and gone back to 4-5-1 - instead he just let them carry on controlling the game, he never once changed the tactics and shape of the team. We need to bring someone in now who can get the best out the squad we have because Coyle is clearly incapable, I don't know whether he's stupidly brave or just plain stupid but I suspect its the latter.

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