The Battle of Stamford Bridge

[Ianmooreslovechild]

id sooner we lined up more like this


GK : bogdan

Rb: steinsson Cb:wheater Cb:Knight lb: ricketts (cross fingers for no fudge ups )

CDM : reo coker CDM : muamba (allways solid in midfeild with these 2 here)

Cam: MDavies/tuncay allows mdavies some freedom with players totally surrounding him also if tuncay plays can give him freedom to flair and bring smiles to our faces ..... hopefully

RF : smeagles Lm: petrov (eagles on offensive duties moving inside/ petrov holding wide position crosses x infinitum

ST: Klasnic or Ngog id literally choose either today i say klas as we need a goal and ngog isnt freescoring but perhaps best option would be to have ngog on from start to be subbed for klasnic later on

If Klasnic or KD start another game this season it'll be a sure fire sign we're going down. Ngog has to start up top and Sordell should be first off the bench if he looks knackered or we need to chase the game.The only value I see in Klasnic is last 15/20 mins if we'e hitting desperation and hoping for something to drop in the box. Defensively I'm surprised how many people like the idea of Zat "Lightening boots"Knight facing up to Sturridge the snail on our left side. Surely Ream is more suited to that one.If we can get Eagles/Myaichi/Mavis on the ball with a chance to run at Luiz and cahill I can see us having some joy. Chelsea dont have an effective DM at present so for me it's a game for two footed players cutting inside rather than wide men hitting the byline and trying to find our lone striker.

[mrpiccollo]

ok as for knight over ream

1 ream cant be considered as full start ahead of realisticly our main cb this year so far
2 knight has experience of playing with and against sturridge and all the pace in the world cant make up for experience in this situation
3 knight is and i know your about to wonder if im nuts but he is a very good centre back and at this level ream is totally unproven

as for klasnic vs sordell for me sordell will take till atleast next year before he will start to fit in well with us for anything more than pacy sub striker and klasnic is a quality experienced player (if hes on his game can do well)

[Ianmooreslovechild]

ok as for knight over ream

1 ream cant be considered as full start ahead of realisticly our main cb this year so far
2 knight has experience of playing with and against sturridge and all the pace in the world cant make up for experience in this situation
3 knight is and i know your about to wonder if im nuts but he is a very good centre back and at this level ream is totally unproven

as for klasnic vs sordell for me sordell will take till atleast next year before he will start to fit in well with us for anything more than pacy sub striker and klasnic is a quality experienced player (if hes on his game can do well)

Clearly we have very different views here. I just figure Sturridge is very quick on the first few yards and Knight isnt.

Klasnic hasnt done much this season.If a ball happens to fall to him in the box all good and well but there isnt a lot more than that in his favour. Give me a player who can run anyday.

Perhaps we shouldnt be playing an inexperienced player like Miyaichi either.How can he be ready after arsenal reserves and ten games in Holland?

[Wonderwanderer12]

It is true Miyaichi is inexperienced(it seems he had been playing for his high school football club in Japan until he joined Arsenal 13 months ago), but when a weaker team plays against a stronger team, quick wingers and strikers are useful.

In order to defeat Chelsea, we have to rely on quick counter-attack.

[TANGODANCER]

It is true Miyaichi is inexperienced(it seems he had been playing for his high school football club in Japan until he joined Arsenal 13 months ago), but when a weaker team plays against a stronger team, quick wingers and strikers are useful.

In order to defeat Chelsea, we have to rely on quick counter-attack.

In order to defeat Chelsea, if we get a smell of a scoring chance, we have to score. A hard fought point will do for me. Anything better and I'll be the happiest man on the planet.

[mrpiccollo]

3 points today and id be in dream land

[Wandering Willy]

On the way in now. I'd love a point today.

COYFWM

[Worthy4England]

ok as for knight over ream

1 ream cant be considered as full start ahead of realisticly our main cb this year so far
2 knight has experience of playing with and against sturridge and all the pace in the world cant make up for experience in this situation
3 knight is and i know your about to wonder if im nuts but he is a very good centre back and at this level ream is totally unproven

as for klasnic vs sordell for me sordell will take till atleast next year before he will start to fit in well with us for anything more than pacy sub striker and klasnic is a quality experienced player (if hes on his game can do well)

Clearly we have very different views here. I just figure Sturridge is very quick on the first few yards and Knight isnt.

Klasnic hasnt done much this season.If a ball happens to fall to him in the box all good and well but there isnt a lot more than that in his favour. Give me a player who can run anyday.

Perhaps we shouldnt be playing an inexperienced player like Miyaichi either.How can he be ready after arsenal reserves and ten games in Holland?

Other than put the ball in the net every 177 minutes?

Poor attribute in any footballer, being able to score with alarming regularity. The guy has 7 league goals from 14 starts, I think out best ever return from a striker was 12.

You can have all the ones that run, I'll settle for having a couple that can put the ball in the net. Petrov ran and ran against Wigan then, on I think just about every occasion, singularly failed to get the ball over/past the first defender (including from corners). We need a balance between runners and scorers.

We certainly have a problem though, because I wouldn't want to go 4-4-2 to accommodate Klasnic, and (probably like yourself) I doubt he can play the same game as Ngog.

I doubt he'll be here next season anyhow

[Armchair Wanderer]

Which game was it he didn't move for the ball and when presented with the ball in the middle of the penalty area swung a leg half-heartedly and missed? From memory we'd have got something from the game had he scored. That's just one miss and I was more angry at his general lack of interest than the lack of goal in that match. If he wants to play and score for us he's a very good player to have, good scoring record etc, but we can't be carrying players like we have been.

Bit nervous about today's game, big game all round!

[Verbal]

Team news: Bogdan, Steinsson, Wheater, Ream, Ricketts, Muamba, Reo-Coker, Pratley, Miyaichi, Tuncay, Ngog

brb just off to purchase some cyanide

[Turkish Trotter]

Bogdan
Steinson, REam, Wheater, Rickets,
Muamba, Reo Coker,
Myaichi, Pratley. Tuncay
Ngog


Subs Jussi, Robbo. Knight. Boyata, Eagles Sordell and Klasnic

[Verbal]

subs:

BWFC Subs: Jaaskelainen, Robinson, Eagles, Knight, Klasnic, Boyata, Sordell

would have had pratley out and eagles in personally. But hey ho.

coywm and all that

[Turkish Trotter]

OfficialBWFC: Chelsea: Cech, Ivanovic, Cole, Luiz, Essien, Ramires, Lampard, Mata, Drogba, Sturridge, Cahill

[Turkish Trotter]

Chelsea Subs: Turnbull, Torres, Obi Mikel, Malouda, Meireles, Kalou, Bertrand [via Twitter]

[Worthy4England]

Which game was it he didn't move for the ball and when presented with the ball in the middle of the penalty area swung a leg half-heartedly and missed? From memory we'd have got something from the game had he scored. That's just one miss and I was more angry at his general lack of interest than the lack of goal in that match. If he wants to play and score for us he's a very good player to have, good scoring record etc, but we can't be carrying players like we have been.

Bit nervous about today's game, big game all round!

We've managed 20 goals without him - the highest other single contribution being 3. It's difficult to say you're carrying someone who puts the ball in the net so obviously far and away better and more often than anyone else we have.

That said, I'm not sure how to fit him into the team either at the moment. Not sure I'd change from 4-5-1 to accommodate, and putting him in, in place of Ngog probably wouldn't work well either.

If our MF 4 didn't involve dropping Muamba every time (so we play NRC, Muamba) and two wider players, I might be half convinced it was worth a shot at 4-4-2 with Klasnic up top with Ngog, but given that Coyle's default is to drop Muamba to play 4 in MF and include Petrov, Eagles and Mavies, I think we struggle to find a place for Klasnic.

[elfil76]

Team news: Bogdan, Steinsson, Wheater, Ream, Ricketts, Muamba, Reo-Coker, Pratley, Miyaichi, Tuncay, Ngog

brb just off to purchase some cyanide

Will be leaving to the airport at half time pretty disappointed i think, more so when checking the results upon touchdown in beijing.

[NiceHotCuppaTea]

Put Tuncay in Pratleys position, and put Eagles on the wing.

Tuncay feeding Ngog like last weekend.

Come on Coyle use your brain!

[Turkish Trotter]

Is today the day Chelsea come good again???
Lampards our bogey must be odds on for 1st goal.
Would be elated with 1 point never mind 3.

[Worthy4England]

Team news: Bogdan, Steinsson, Wheater, Ream, Ricketts, Muamba, Reo-Coker, Pratley, Miyaichi, Tuncay, Ngog

brb just off to purchase some cyanide

Pratley???

Oh fook. Must've missed it, but I guess Mavies is injured as he's not on the bench either?

Petrov looks like he's either injured or dropped completely too.

[Turkish Trotter]

Mavies out with hamstring injury, don't know about Petrov.