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Re: If Coyle selects a team like the one v Citeh again ...

Post by Phoenix89 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:33 am

The people saying, lets boycott the match against QPR or lets boo or lets protest are just mad.
If we start booing and protesting before/during/after games we may as well say we are down now.
We are to late in the season to sack coyle now whether we like it or not, so the best thing us fans can
do is get the reebok buzzing and support the team until the end of the season.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:45 am

We're not at all too late in the season.

I don't (and won't) boo/boycott. But there's been quite a few teams successfully managed to change Manager at this stage and stay up.

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Re: If Coyle selects a team like the one v Citeh again ...

Post by Hoboh » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:55 am

Phoenix89 wrote:The people saying, lets boycott the match against QPR or lets boo or lets protest are just mad.
If we start booing and protesting before/during/after games we may as well say we are down now.
We are to late in the season to sack coyle now whether we like it or not, so the best thing us fans can
do is get the reebok buzzing and support the team until the end of the season.
Yeah right!!! how the hell can you get excited when your manager is an utter knob?

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Post by thebish » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:58 am

Hoboh wrote:
Phoenix89 wrote:The people saying, lets boycott the match against QPR or lets boo or lets protest are just mad.
If we start booing and protesting before/during/after games we may as well say we are down now.
We are to late in the season to sack coyle now whether we like it or not, so the best thing us fans can
do is get the reebok buzzing and support the team until the end of the season.
Yeah right!!! how the hell can you get excited when your manager is an utter knob?
most managers are utter knobs.

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Post by bobo the clown » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:01 pm

Phoenix89 wrote:The people saying, lets boycott the match against QPR or lets boo or lets protest are just mad.

If we start booing and protesting before/during/after games we may as well say we are down now.

We are to late in the season to sack coyle now whether we like it or not, so the best thing us fans can do is get the reebok buzzing and support the team until the end of the season.
So we watch him play 4-4-2, bench Muamba, play Davies wide. Select Knight at centre-half and Ream in midfield ....... and we are supposed to cheer during the car crash that follows ??

Meanwhile Coyle is allowed to wander about saying "the fans understand wht I'm doing" and people interpret our silence as acceptance ??

Fck, the sky must be a bloody funny colour in your World.
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Re: If Coyle selects a team like the one v Citeh again ...

Post by 50sQuiff » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:37 pm

Phoenix89 wrote:The people saying, lets boycott the match against QPR or lets boo or lets protest are just mad.
If we start booing and protesting before/during/after games we may as well say we are down now.
We are to late in the season to sack coyle now whether we like it or not, so the best thing us fans can
do is get the reebok buzzing and support the team until the end of the season.
Isn't that what the fans have been doing all season though? Reebok attendances have been pretty good and there's been no dissent - just a lot of grumbling. At the away games I've been to the fans have been singing his name. Can't bring myself to do it, though.

This inept manager is not just sending a decent squad of players down either. I spent my formative years watching Coyle and thinking he was a hero. I thought people couldn't rob you of your fond memories, but turns out the bastard can do that too.

Ream makes a promising debut at the back... so he plays him in midfield. Mark Davies is our only link between midfield and attack... so he plays him wide right. Muamba is our only solid defensive midfielder... so he benches him for a pub player who makes Mark Patterson look sophisticated.

The fact that it was away to City isn't the point. Against United we looked organised and competitive and we followed that performance up with some strong results. At least they probably went into training on Monday with something to work with and some semblance of being a team.

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Re: If Coyle selects a team like the one v Citeh again ...

Post by Turkish Trotter » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:34 pm

thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Phoenix89 wrote:The people saying, lets boycott the match against QPR or lets boo or lets protest are just mad.
If we start booing and protesting before/during/after games we may as well say we are down now.
We are to late in the season to sack coyle now whether we like it or not, so the best thing us fans can
do is get the reebok buzzing and support the team until the end of the season.
Yeah right!!! how the hell can you get excited when your manager is an utter knob?
most managers are utter knobs.



You're right there Bish, they're knobs. Coyle was revered at Burnley and we thought we had poached a good un, but now he's a knob.
Hodgson was revered at Fulham but was a knob at Liverpool now he's a good un at WBA.
They all have good and bad years, but basically they are all knobs
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Post by bobo the clown » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:51 pm

Turkish Trotter wrote:
thebish wrote:most managers are utter knobs.
You're right there Bish, they're knobs. Coyle was revered at Burnley and we thought we had poached a good un, but now he's a knob.

Hodgson was revered at Fulham but was a knob at Liverpool now he's a good un at WBA.
They all have good and bad years, but basically they are all knobs
I just took that to be one of his socialistic outbursts !! :conf:
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:08 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
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Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:23 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
I dont think fans "liked " allardyce. He was/is an arrogant toss pot.Rioch was crystal clear and consistent in what he asked for and expected and conducted himself in a manner that demanded /deserved respect from fans and players alike.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:48 pm

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
I dont think fans "liked " allardyce. He was/is an arrogant toss pot.Rioch was crystal clear and consistent in what he asked for and expected and conducted himself in a manner that demanded /deserved respect from fans and players alike.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:00 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
Ermm yes frankly. We has a sticky patch to start with and I remember a fair few disgruntled cat calls.

He wasn't liked at the clubs that he didn't bring success to, so I think achieving success is pretty much the defining factor for a manager being liked!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:10 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
Ermm yes frankly. We has a sticky patch to start with and I remember a fair few disgruntled cat calls.

He wasn't liked at the clubs that he didn't bring success to, so I think achieving success is pretty much the defining factor for a manager being liked!
I couldn't care a damn how he went down elsewhere. I punched the air when we appointed him (I can even tell you exactly where I was when I heard the news) The way Rioch immediately set his stall out had me cooing. Banning mobile phones from the training ground, fines going to charity rather than the player's Christmas piss-up, a real sense of discipline and direction. You and your mates might have been disgruntled (surprise, surprise) But I can assure you, those of us on The Paddock (and not the Wing Stand ;) ) were overjoyed.
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Post by as » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:14 pm

I don't hate Coyle, I couldn't even if we went down.

We are poor, all over the park.

Our defence is worse now than when we got promoted with Simon Charlton in it.

Our midfield contains Darren Pratley.

Up front we've got a trier in Ngog, a struggling SKD, a never-fit Klasnic.

The fat lady has been singing since we got embarrassed by the big clubs early in the season, but it's pointless banging on about protests and a managerial change. Owen isn't going anywhere, we might as well back him (and we have backed him, all season, despite some of the worst football in our recent history) and hope the other shit clubs can't get their act together either.

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Post by Turkish Trotter » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:15 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
Ermm yes frankly. We has a sticky patch to start with and I remember a fair few disgruntled cat calls.

He wasn't liked at the clubs that he didn't bring success to, so I think achieving success is pretty much the defining factor for a manager being liked!

It can't be often if at all that a manager would be liked if success wasn't forthcoming.
But then again, what is classed as success ?
Megson kept us premier, which was his remit when appointed, he was hated from Day one, and wouldn't have been liked even if we had won something.
Rioch built a successful team, and was liked but would he have been liked if success hadn't been achieved ? I don't think so.
Coyle was liked from day one, but as time has gone by is despised and even if we manage to stay up, I cannot see a way he would be liked again. Unless of course we start next season at a cantor and we're challenging for Europe (Haha). Fans in general are so fickle, it doesn't take much to swing opinions.
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Post by thebish » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:18 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
Ermm yes frankly. We has a sticky patch to start with and I remember a fair few disgruntled cat calls.

He wasn't liked at the clubs that he didn't bring success to, so I think achieving success is pretty much the defining factor for a manager being liked!
would you say that West Ham have been successful under allardyce?

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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:38 pm

as wrote:I don't hate Coyle, I couldn't even if we went down.

We are poor, all over the park.

Our defence is worse now than when we got promoted with Simon Charlton in it.

Our midfield contains Darren Pratley.

Up front we've got a trier in Ngog, a struggling SKD, a never-fit Klasnic.

The fat lady has been singing since we got embarrassed by the big clubs early in the season, but it's pointless banging on about protests and a managerial change. Owen isn't going anywhere, we might as well back him (and we have backed him, all season, despite some of the worst football in our recent history) and hope the other shit clubs can't get their act together either.

To quote that born-with-a-platinum-spoon-up-his-arse David Cameron fella - We're All In This Together.
I thought it couldn't get much worse, but fook me, quoting David Cameron in a bid to say let's all support OC.

That's clinched it, I'm off for some bedsheets. :D

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:34 pm

OK, so was John McGovern unpopular? I don't think so. He was dealt the worst hand of any football manager ever.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:41 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
Ermm yes frankly. We has a sticky patch to start with and I remember a fair few disgruntled cat calls.

He wasn't liked at the clubs that he didn't bring success to, so I think achieving success is pretty much the defining factor for a manager being liked!
would you say that West Ham have been successful under allardyce?
Yeah but that's West Ham where they have unrealistic definitions of successful. If he takes em into Europe next season they'll all love him, however arrogant he becomes and however many times he talks about Pomo.

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Post by thebish » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:54 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Fans liked Allardyce cos he were successful. Find a manager who is successful and not much else matters. Same with Rioch.
Mate - do you honestly think people only liked Rioch because he was successful? Really? :conf:
Ermm yes frankly. We has a sticky patch to start with and I remember a fair few disgruntled cat calls.

He wasn't liked at the clubs that he didn't bring success to, so I think achieving success is pretty much the defining factor for a manager being liked!
would you say that West Ham have been successful under allardyce?
Yeah but that's West Ham where they have unrealistic definitions of successful. If he takes em into Europe next season they'll all love him, however arrogant he becomes and however many times he talks about Pomo.
hmmm... so you're proving a theory by leaving out/discounting any data that disagrees with it? (that sounds very familiar!)

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