Bottom 5 fixtures

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

[Hoboh]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

So you don't think our position as feck all to do with Coyle then?

[TKIZ!]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

So you don't think our position as feck all to do with Coyle then?

The players are just as much to blame. I think all this laying the blame on Coyle's door is a bit short sighted.

Plus it will certainly help no-one going into these six games demanding that Coyle gets the bullet, it helps no-one. Last home game against Fulham I had a fella and missus behind me barracking the team before the ball had been even touched at the kick-off. Does anyone with half a brain cell think the team is going to respond well to that?

I'm sick to death of listening to 'It must be Coyle, it must be the fat kit man, it must be that'. Just try getting behind the team

[BWFC_Insane]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

So you don't think our position as feck all to do with Coyle then?

The players are just as much to blame. I think all this laying the blame on Coyle's door is a bit short sighted.

Plus it will certainly help no-one going into these six games demanding that Coyle gets the bullet, it helps no-one. Last home game against Fulham I had a fella and missus behind me barracking the team before the ball had been even touched at the kick-off. Does anyone with half a brain cell think the team is going to respond well to that?

I'm sick to death of listening to 'It must be Coyle, it must be the fat kit man, it must be that'. Just try getting behind the team

Being generic though, its the manager that has to take the ultimate responsibility and ergo the "blame".

He buys the players, picks em, motivates em, chooses the tactics etc......

The reality is that its always a lot of peoples "faults" in every situation. But as ever the manager is the figure head who takes on said responsibility and therefore must accept the consequences.

[TANGODANCER]

Everyone coming into work is just talking about how good Wigan were last night.

Can't be denied. They not only were a contant threat to score, but the defence frustrated every Arsenal attack. Moses and Boyce had a field day on the wings,their running and passing were spot on, and when Tony Salmon came on he was a constant threat on his own down the middle. Just like the United game, this was no flluke win but a professional display for ninety minutes. Caldwell ws a bit lucky in his kamikazi challenges but Wigan really did look like a top six rather than bottom six side. Hard to admit, but it's the truth.

[TANGODANCER]

We're obviously into end-of-season "manager-out, players out, everybody out" mode whilst still blindly (in some extreme cases) thinking we have a divine right to win and everything to go right. It would be no different if were mid-table or even challenging for top spots. It's a tough world and even if we suddenly turned it in grand style some would moan we should have done it sooner. Like there aren't fourteen or fifteen other clubs all in the same boat. Newcastle are on a high, where were they not long ago? West Ham are fighting to get back up here, Villa were a top six side not long back and City were no great shakes at all. We've had bad injury set-backs, the toughest start to the season for yonks and the Muamba disaster to contend with. Add the need to re-build with some of our lads reaching the end of their careers and a lack of real money against the oil-sheik owned teams and it isn't too hard to see why we've struggled. Despite all, we're still here and battling.

Can the moaning and keep the faith. COME ON YOU WHITES.

[BWFC_Insane]

And as an interesting side note the QPR fans are making a big play of our congested fixture list.

They believe ultimately the number of games we have to play in the last few weeks of the season is what will doom us.

Don't think anyone's mentioned that on here (if they have then sorry!).

[TANGODANCER]

And as an interesting side note the QPR fans are making a big play of our congested fixture list.

They believe ultimately the number of games we have to play in the last few weeks of the season is what will doom us.

Don't think anyone's mentioned that on here (if they have then sorry!).

Offset by two weeks off and a trip to Dubai maybe?

[BWFC_Insane]

And as an interesting side note the QPR fans are making a big play of our congested fixture list.

They believe ultimately the number of games we have to play in the last few weeks of the season is what will doom us.

Don't think anyone's mentioned that on here (if they have then sorry!).

Offset by two weeks off and a trip to Dubai maybe?

Perhaps. It can work both ways if you get on a winning run can be golden.

Lose to Swansea though, and the trips to Villa and Sunderland make it look a very long week indeed!

[TANGODANCER]

And as an interesting side note the QPR fans are making a big play of our congested fixture list.

They believe ultimately the number of games we have to play in the last few weeks of the season is what will doom us.

Don't think anyone's mentioned that on here (if they have then sorry!).

Offset by two weeks off and a trip to Dubai maybe?

Perhaps. It can work both ways if you get on a winning run can be golden.

Lose to Swansea though, and the trips to Villa and Sunderland make it look a very long week indeed!

Here buddy. Take my glass. It's just the same level as yours except it's half-full.

[Sponge]

We're obviously into end-of-season "manager-out, players out, everybody out" mode whilst still blindly (in some extreme cases) thinking we have a divine right to win and everything to go right. It would be no different if were mid-table or even challenging for top spots. It's a tough world and even if we suddenly turned it in grand style some would moan we should have done it sooner. Like there aren't fourteen or fifteen other clubs all in the same boat. Newcastle are on a high, where were they not long ago? West Ham are fighting to get back up here, Villa were a top six side not long back and City were no great shakes at all. We've had bad injury set-backs, the toughest start to the season for yonks and the Muamba disaster to contend with. Add the need to re-build with some of our lads reaching the end of their careers and a lack of real money against the oil-sheik owned teams and it isn't too hard to see why we've struggled. Despite all, we're still here and battling.

Can the moaning and keep the faith. COME ON YOU WHITES.

[thebish]

And as an interesting side note the QPR fans are making a big play of our congested fixture list.

They believe ultimately the number of games we have to play in the last few weeks of the season is what will doom us.

Don't think anyone's mentioned that on here (if they have then sorry!).

Offset by two weeks off and a trip to Dubai maybe?

Perhaps. It can work both ways if you get on a winning run can be golden.

Lose to Swansea though, and the trips to Villa and Sunderland make it look a very long week indeed!

Here buddy. Take my glass. It's just the same level as yours except it's half-full.

and rose-tinted!

[TANGODANCER]

And as an interesting side note the QPR fans are making a big play of our congested fixture list.

They believe ultimately the number of games we have to play in the last few weeks of the season is what will doom us.

Don't think anyone's mentioned that on here (if they have then sorry!).

Offset by two weeks off and a trip to Dubai maybe?

Perhaps. It can work both ways if you get on a winning run can be golden.

Lose to Swansea though, and the trips to Villa and Sunderland make it look a very long week indeed!

Here buddy. Take my glass. It's just the same level as yours except it's half-full.

and rose-tinted!

Of course, it's Cranberry glass.

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

So you don't think our position as feck all to do with Coyle then?

No thats not what i've said though is it? The manager as the guy with whom the buck stops obviously has a part to play. But as i've said elsewhere- at a different time, when actually the picture was more gloomy than it is now- this season was always going to be a difficult one and, for my money, Coyle has done as well as anyone could be expected to have done.
Now obviously he has "issues" as a manager - and i doubt i need to highlight them here (there's plenty more qualified to go on about inflexibility and tactical naievety)- but on the whole i take the view that his general stewardship of the club has been good. Who do we want - Dalglish?
In fact- and i acknowledge i am possibly adopting this position because i'm p@ssed off with the whole negativity surrounding Coyle- i'd go so far to say that IF he keeps us up/ we stay up OC could be regarded as a candidate for Manager of the Season.
Fact of the matter is none of us like to see the club struggling but scapegoating has never been my bag

[BWFC_Insane]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

So you don't think our position as feck all to do with Coyle then?

No thats not what i've said though is it? The manager as the guy with whom the buck stops obviously has a part to play. But as i've said elsewhere- at a different time, when actually the picture was more gloomy than it is now- this season was always going to be a difficult one and, for my money, Coyle has done as well as anyone could be expected to have done.
Now obviously he has "issues" as a manager - and i doubt i need to highlight them here (there's plenty more qualified to go on about inflexibility and tactical naievety)- but on the whole i take the view that his general stewardship of the club has been good. Who do we want - Dalglish? In fact- and i acknowledge i am possibly adopting this position because i'm p@ssed off with the whole negativity surrounding Coyle- i'd go so far to say that IF he keeps us up/ we stay up OC could be regarded as a candidate for Manager of the Season.
Fact of the matter is none of us like to see the club struggling but scapegoating has never been my bag

Eh?

I don't understand that.

Even given the injury situation this year, we've underperformed. Badly.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

So you don't think our position as feck all to do with Coyle then?

No thats not what i've said though is it? The manager as the guy with whom the buck stops obviously has a part to play. But as i've said elsewhere- at a different time, when actually the picture was more gloomy than it is now- this season was always going to be a difficult one and, for my money, Coyle has done as well as anyone could be expected to have done.
Now obviously he has "issues" as a manager - and i doubt i need to highlight them here (there's plenty more qualified to go on about inflexibility and tactical naievety)- but on the whole i take the view that his general stewardship of the club has been good. Who do we want - Dalglish?
In fact- and i acknowledge i am possibly adopting this position because i'm p@ssed off with the whole negativity surrounding Coyle- i'd go so far to say that IF he keeps us up/ we stay up OC could be regarded as a candidate for Manager of the Season.
Fact of the matter is none of us like to see the club struggling but scapegoating has never been my bag

[a1]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

the megson algorithm

[TKIZ!]

We're obviously into end-of-season "manager-out, players out, everybody out" mode whilst still blindly (in some extreme cases) thinking we have a divine right to win and everything to go right. It would be no different if were mid-table or even challenging for top spots. It's a tough world and even if we suddenly turned it in grand style some would moan we should have done it sooner. Like there aren't fourteen or fifteen other clubs all in the same boat. Newcastle are on a high, where were they not long ago? West Ham are fighting to get back up here, Villa were a top six side not long back and City were no great shakes at all. We've had bad injury set-backs, the toughest start to the season for yonks and the Muamba disaster to contend with. Add the need to re-build with some of our lads reaching the end of their careers and a lack of real money against the oil-sheik owned teams and it isn't too hard to see why we've struggled. Despite all, we're still here and battling.

Can the moaning and keep the faith. COME ON YOU WHITES.

Testify my brother!

[Turkish Trotter]

Look at our record of 29 points.
Against the other 4 teams in trouble QPR 6, Blackburn 6, Wolves 4, Wigan 3. 19 points.
Against the remaining 15 clubs, 10 yes 10 points, Liverpool 3, Stoke 3, Everton 3 and Arsenal 1.
Coyle manager of the season ???????????????????? Feck me, unbelievable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sponge]

so ... if we go down it will be because of the manager and if we stay up it will be in spite of the manager.
correct?
can't help thinking there's a bit more to it than that meself.

So you don't think our position as feck all to do with Coyle then?

No thats not what i've said though is it? The manager as the guy with whom the buck stops obviously has a part to play. But as i've said elsewhere- at a different time, when actually the picture was more gloomy than it is now- this season was always going to be a difficult one and, for my money, Coyle has done as well as anyone could be expected to have done.
Now obviously he has "issues" as a manager - and i doubt i need to highlight them here (there's plenty more qualified to go on about inflexibility and tactical naievety)- but on the whole i take the view that his general stewardship of the club has been good. Who do we want - Dalglish? In fact- and i acknowledge i am possibly adopting this position because i'm p@ssed off with the whole negativity surrounding Coyle- i'd go so far to say that IF he keeps us up/ we stay up OC could be regarded as a candidate for Manager of the Season.
Fact of the matter is none of us like to see the club struggling but scapegoating has never been my bag

Eh?

I don't understand that.

Even given the injury situation this year, we've underperformed. Badly.

No we haven't. We're probably about right, give or take.