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Re: Villa Away.

Post by boltonboris » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:35 am

Nope. Which is why I've been against his participation so far. But who else? Ream?
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Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:38 am

I havent seen one BWFC player who has yet so why the feck not eh...almost past caring with this shower.

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Post by Mar » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:43 am

boltonboris wrote:Nope. Which is why I've been against his participation so far. But who else? Ream?
I'd go with the same players as last game with Mark Davies replaced by Tuncay. Fresh legs for Mark Davies coming on late on running at defenders should be interesting at least.

Ream should stay at CB with Wheater. Wouldn't change that for the rest of the season. In fact wouldn't change the back four for all the games left (unless injuries force a decision). Steady back line would be good.

Kevin Davies as he has been playing lately is a starter for me. Klasnic as a sub guaranteed to come on. Let him know his role and use that.

Reo-Coker shouldn't run past the half way line. He should be there to look for things like players cutting inside. Basically a sweeper in front on the back four.

Miyaichi as close to super Kev as possible. Any flick on and he should be off like a rocket. Hard to pick him up when he's given a free role round Kevin Davies. Trouble is he's been given the RM slot and having to take people on which isn't doing him favours at the min.

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Re: Villa Away.

Post by boltonboris » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:45 am

So Reo Coker in midfield on his own? ;-)
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Post by Mar » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:48 am

boltonboris wrote:So Reo Coker in midfield on his own? ;-)
Nah. Tuncay in mid.

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Post by boltonboris » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:52 am

Not sure Tuncay has ever played centre mid.

I'd play him behind the striker, but he'll still need 2 behind him.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:54 am

Options are there few, but I doubt even Coyle would go with a line-up that death-or-glory.

Especially as it seems Tuncay will only play if the rest of the squad contract ebola.

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Post by boltonboris » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:56 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Options are there few, but I doubt even Coyle would go with a line-up that death-or-glory.

Especially as it seems Tuncay will only play if the rest of the squad contract ebola.
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Re: Villa Away.

Post by Andy Waller » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:56 am

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dasher wrote:Is Mark Davies going to be fit for this game ? he looked like he was struggling at the end of the match on Sat.

I always worry about us when we go to play a team with no strikers and who aren't scoring
He looks like he's struggling with football in general to be honest
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My dad got it spot on when he said Mark Davies will have "potential" until the day he retires.

He's just not up to it.
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Post by boltonboris » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:57 am

We've tried him in 4 positions. In different systems to acommodate him. He hasn't produced
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:01 pm

boltonboris wrote:We've tried him in 4 positions. In different systems to acommodate him. He hasn't produced
He was playing well with two tackling midfielders behind him in a 4-2-3-1. Trouble is, that formation didn't last long before being changed by a gung-ho manager and a life-threatening illness to one of the tacklers.

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Re: Villa Away.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:13 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
boltonboris wrote:We've tried him in 4 positions. In different systems to acommodate him. He hasn't produced
He was playing well with two tackling midfielders behind him in a 4-2-3-1. Trouble is, that formation didn't last long before being changed by a gung-ho manager and a life-threatening illness to one of the tacklers.
He did well in that system, tis true.

However, he hasn't shown enough goalscoring aptitude nor passing craft to be a top player in that role either.

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Post by SmokinFrazier » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:21 pm

I've been extremely confident about this fixture for a while now. I know it's Bolton and you should probably not get too hopefuly but everything about this game is positive for me. Villa are struggling at the moment - seriously struggling. Remarkably, you can still get 14/1 that they'll go down, which is just baffling to me. I think we'll beat them and if we do, they will be well and truly in the relegation mix. A fanbase who loathe their inept manager, who got his last team relegated. Not only that, but his current Villa side are riddled with injuries.

We can beat them and I think we will. I'm never too optimistic being a Bolton fan but if we didn't win this game clearly, I'd be shocked. Only then would I think we're going down.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:27 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:I've been extremely confident about this fixture for a while now. I know it's Bolton and you should probably not get too hopefuly but everything about this game is positive for me. Villa are struggling at the moment - seriously struggling. Remarkably, you can still get 14/1 that they'll go down, which is just baffling to me. I think we'll beat them and if we do, they will be well and truly in the relegation mix. A fanbase who loathe their inept manager, who got his last team relegated. Not only that, but his current Villa side are riddled with injuries.

We can beat them and I think we will. I'm never too optimistic being a Bolton fan but if we didn't win this game clearly, I'd be shocked. Only then would I think we're going down.
I'd not be shocked if we beat them, equally I'd not be shocked if we didn't.

I think given Mark Davies is maybe out and Pratley deffo is, we're going to be struggling in midfield, well we are as it is even with those players....

For me it really is the absolute last chance saloon though!

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Re: Villa Away.

Post by LiOC » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:33 pm

I think having Vela in will do us good providing he's up to it. It'll at least give us two "proper" CMs and then Davies (if fit)/Eagles/Tuncay in the more attacking role.

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Re: Villa Away.

Post by coffeymagic » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:41 pm

See all these formations? Why does everysingle one of our players need a player behind to 'back him up' for when he 'feck* up'?

It's like some kind of daisy-chain where each man is worse than the one infront of him.

What ever happend to them worrying about us?
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Re: Villa Away.

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:53 pm

coffeymagic wrote:What ever happend to them worrying about us?
We got promoted.

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Re: Villa Away.

Post by adamworthy2002 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:10 pm

Put 4 up front we might score a goal then
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Re: Villa Away.

Post by bobo the clown » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:11 pm

Mar wrote:Kevin Davies as he has been playing lately is a starter for me.
You missed the Fulham & Swansea games then ??
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Re: Villa Away.

Post by Mar » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:13 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Mar wrote:Kevin Davies as he has been playing lately is a starter for me.
You missed the Fulham & Swansea games then ??
The inclusion was down to the contribution of Davies instead of N'Gog. Think its been marginal difference but i'd say it has seemed more effective.

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