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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by newboy » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:36 am

P.S In his brief 5 minute cameo Alonso looked more of a natural winger to me than he ever has a defensive minded player, winning 2 corners at such a crucial point of the game definitely did my grey hairs a world of good!

Spot on W.o.T. with Alonso, though the midfeild is the critical area most teams seem to walk through that's why our defenders seem to work that much harder than most, with the personnel at Coyles disposal can't see that changing. on an upside Petrov seems to be tracking back more lately.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by CarlosHernandez » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:35 am

Eagles looked like he went off with a hamstring strain, which is usually a couple of weeks out. Hoping Pratley has recovered by the weekend!

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:42 am

Fingers crossed for Eagles...we didnt think Mavies would make the game last night but he did.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:01 pm

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:Fingers crossed for Eagles...we didnt think Mavies would make the game last night but he did.
Having said that, Agbonlehor(sp?) was apparently at death's door and wouldn't play. He did. All managers have the "miracle" card up their sleeves, way of the world.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by CarlosHernandez » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:14 pm

Had no idea what Davies went off with on Saturday, but Eagles' was clearly clutching his hammy. They aren't injuries that just heal in a couple of days, even slight strains. And if brought back too early can go again, only worse. Although its hardly time to be conservative!

Coyle was having some tender words with Zat after full time, I'm hoping he wasn't letting him know that he'd be in for Saturday with Ream moving to midfield.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:37 pm

CarlosHernandez wrote:Had no idea what Davies went off with on Saturday, but Eagles' was clearly clutching his hammy. They aren't injuries that just heal in a couple of days, even slight strains. And if brought back too early can go again, only worse. Although its hardly time to be conservative!

Coyle was having some tender words with Zat after full time, I'm hoping he wasn't letting him know that he'd be in for Saturday with Ream moving to midfield.
Just watched the extended highlights on Sky, Eagles managed to jog over from the bench to the away support to his little victory jig :wink:

He better make it for Sunderland!

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:43 pm

Eagles looked like a tight hamstring rather than a tear or strain. Cos he looked to be walking off without discomfort.

Doubt he'd be ok for Sunderland unless it was real precautionary stuff, but as he felt it I'd have thought a week or so at least......

Though some players recover from these really quickly, so you never know.....

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Sponge » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:14 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Eagles looked like a tight hamstring rather than a tear or strain. Cos he looked to be walking off without discomfort.

Doubt he'd be ok for Sunderland unless it was real precautionary stuff, but as he felt it I'd have thought a week or so at least......

Though some players recover from these really quickly, so you never know.....


It was right after he'd sprinted the length of the pitch, so I'm hoping it was just cramping/tightness. Un-fecking-believable if we have ANOTHER midfielder out.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:18 pm

Sponge wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Eagles looked like a tight hamstring rather than a tear or strain. Cos he looked to be walking off without discomfort.

Doubt he'd be ok for Sunderland unless it was real precautionary stuff, but as he felt it I'd have thought a week or so at least......

Though some players recover from these really quickly, so you never know.....


It was right after he'd sprinted the length of the pitch, so I'm hoping it was just cramping/tightness. Un-fecking-believable if we have ANOTHER midfielder out.
He said it was a tight hamstring post match. So that could mean 3 weeks out or back in a few days.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by si2008 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:36 pm

if Eagles dont make it why not give sordell a game..why did we buy him N.gog out wide with King Kev and Sordell throught the middle

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by RedStarBelgrade » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:13 pm

Arsene's lad out! Bogdan,Steinsson,Ricketts,Ream,Wheater,Reo-Coker,M.Davies,Eagles,Petrov,Kev and Ngog. They can bring us vital victory. COYW!
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by CarlosHernandez » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:33 pm

I'm thinking the same Red Star, Ryo seems to be wearing a little thin. Certainly needs something other than his pace to maintain a starting spot.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:27 pm

newboy wrote:on an upside Petrov seems to be tracking back more lately
I'm glad it's not just me that sees this.

It's been the case since Robinson left and, I suspect, was never quite as bad as some people believe.

However, I was sitting close to a bunch last evening who were utterly anti the poor sod. Whatever he did, whenever, wherever they hurled abuse at him "lazy, bottler, useless, pointless, can't see why he's picked ... etc., etc."

I wonder about some of our fans, sometimes.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by LiOC » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:35 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
newboy wrote:on an upside Petrov seems to be tracking back more lately
I'm glad it's not just me that sees this.

It's been the case since Robinson left and, I suspect, was never quite as bad as some people believe.

However, I was sitting close to a bunch last evening who were utterly anti the poor sod. Whatever he did, whenever, wherever they hurled abuse at him "lazy, bottler, useless, pointless, can't see why he's picked ... etc., etc."

I wonder about some of our fans, sometimes.
I sit near a guy at the reebok who just abuses wingers. Petrov is "lazy sod, get him off, why is he on? Can't tackle, mard..." etc and Eagles gets it as bad. I don't know who he wants us to play on the wings as he isn't a big Ryo fan either!

I think the tracking back is just since he's not been playing with Robbo. Robbo just sort of yelled at him, he looked angry and didn't seem to know what to do. Even at that Swansea game (before Gardner got sent off) he was so much better positionally because you could see he was being told where to stand and not being abused! I think he just needed a break from the abuse and a bit of help with what he was meant to be doing!

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by thebish » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:39 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
newboy wrote:on an upside Petrov seems to be tracking back more lately
I'm glad it's not just me that sees this.

It's been the case since Robinson left and, I suspect, was never quite as bad as some people believe.

However, I was sitting close to a bunch last evening who were utterly anti the poor sod. Whatever he did, whenever, wherever they hurled abuse at him "lazy, bottler, useless, pointless, can't see why he's picked ... etc., etc."

I wonder about some of our fans, sometimes.
clearly not a bottler the way he smacked those pens away vs Wolves and Villa....

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Sponge » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:44 pm

thebish wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
newboy wrote:on an upside Petrov seems to be tracking back more lately
I'm glad it's not just me that sees this.

It's been the case since Robinson left and, I suspect, was never quite as bad as some people believe.

However, I was sitting close to a bunch last evening who were utterly anti the poor sod. Whatever he did, whenever, wherever they hurled abuse at him "lazy, bottler, useless, pointless, can't see why he's picked ... etc., etc."

I wonder about some of our fans, sometimes.
clearly not a bottler the way he smacked those pens away vs Wolves and Villa....

He's an awesome penalty taker. I'm nowhere near as nervous when he steps up as when Davies used to take them.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:48 pm

Reminds me of Baines at Everton...pick a spot, hit it with pace & power, not many keepers will get to it.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:49 pm

bobo the clown wrote: I wonder about some of our fans, sometimes.
If the fans can't see any good in our own players, why bother supporting? The negative vibes must get at the players, and very few have escaped them this season. Who in the team (injured players not counted obviously) hasn't had a hard time? I'm struggling to think of just one. KD in particular has had a tough patch personally, yet risen above it and the present hero of the hour, not too long back, was a "stump, donkey, useless, past it, don't renew his contract" etc etc. Loss of form, bad patches etc, don't equate to rubbish and I'm sure the players must get affected by negativity.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:53 pm

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:Reminds me of Baines at Everton...pick a spot, hit it with pace & power, not many keepers will get to it.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:02 pm

Tony Philliskirk was the one Bolton player i always knew would score when he was stepping up for his pens.

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