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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Turkish Trotter » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:13 pm

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Peter Thompson wrote:Very good point regardless of the results tomorrow - 4 points from Villa & Sunderland away is a very good return

Still need 2 more wins from the last 3, as long QPR don't win at Chelsea
which undoubtedly they will.... the top half clubs are determined to shaft us - it's a sinister plot!
Nonsense. It's teams like Wigan and QPR playing well.

QPR fans today cursing how poor Sunderland were against us. Nothing odd about it, teams at the bottom raise their games at the end. We have, so have they.

If we do drop it will be because of our wanky performances for two thirds of the season and the fact that Owen and the rest didn't wake up to the situation till the very last minute.


And if we stop up it will be in spite of those wanky performances, and also because of Blackburn and Qprs wanky performances. Fckin obvious innit ???-
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:16 pm

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Peter Thompson wrote:Very good point regardless of the results tomorrow - 4 points from Villa & Sunderland away is a very good return

Still need 2 more wins from the last 3, as long QPR don't win at Chelsea
which undoubtedly they will.... the top half clubs are determined to shaft us - it's a sinister plot!
Nonsense. It's teams like Wigan and QPR playing well.

really????? you mean there isn't an orchestrated top-clubs sinister plot against us??? phew!!!
It's just the fact that so many posts are going on about how shocked they are by Wigans form for example. They've been doing that for months now, turned the corner when they won at the Reebok. There is nowt shocking about it

Given Chelsea's injuries and efforts midweek it wouldn't be that shocking if QPR got a result there tomorrow. But if we hadn't left it so late none of this would matter.

IF QPR lose tomorrow we probably need four points from three games.

I guess this was hor West Ham fans felt when they went down on 42 points. Though we won't need that many (but can still get 43!)

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by BWFC1874 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:23 pm

Regardless of how they might have been playing before, you can't say that you're not surprised Wigan have beaten Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal and now Newcastle surely?

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:26 pm

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Nonsense. It's teams like Wigan and QPR playing well.

really????? you mean there isn't an orchestrated top-clubs sinister plot against us??? phew!!!
It's just the fact that so many posts are going on about how shocked they are by Wigans form for example. They've been doing that for months now, turned the corner when they won at the Reebok. There is nowt shocking about it

Given Chelsea's injuries and efforts midweek it wouldn't be that shocking if QPR got a result there tomorrow. But if we hadn't left it so late none of this would matter.

IF QPR lose tomorrow we probably need four points from three games.

I guess this was hor West Ham fans felt when they went down on 42 points. Though we won't need that many (but can still get 43!)
I haven't written a single post about how shocked I am about Wigan's performances. However, I have confess I found some of their recent results (including today) astonishing. If they've been doing that for months, as you suggest, I don't understand why they are not vying for Europe atm. It was not that long ago, it seemed to me, that they were on the cusp of relegation and sinking fast. While DSB is correct that you cannot predict the recent matches by season long form (obvious to me now), Wigan have gone above and beyond in proving the point.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:28 pm

Realistically its between us and QPR

We have Spurs (H), West Brom (H) & Stoke (A) - QPR have Chelsea (A), Stoke (H) & Man City (A)

If they get more out of those 3 games than we do from ours then they will deserve to stay up (like Wigan), and we will deserve to go down.

I bet they wish they had our fixtures !

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Turkish Trotter » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:32 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:Realistically its between us and QPR
We have Spurs (H), West Brom (H) & Stoke (A) - QPR have Chelsea (A), Stoke (H) & Man City (A)

If they get more out of those 3 games than we do from ours then they will deserve to stay up (like Wigan), and we will deserve to go down.

I bet they wish they had our fixtures !


So Villa and Wigan are safe ??? Qpr win tomorrow and we win on Wednesday all 4 teams on 37 with 2 games each left. Can't see how you can say that ??
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:32 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:Realistically its between us and QPR

We have Spurs (H), West Brom (H) & Stoke (A) - QPR have Chelsea (A), Stoke (H) & Man City (A)

If they get more out of those 3 games than we do from ours then they will deserve to stay up (like Wigan), and we will deserve to go down.

I bet they wish they had our fixtures !
Wigan certainly deserves to stay up after tweaking the noses of the great. While I agree it would appear to be between us and QPR I wouldn't give Villa a free ride just yet.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:33 pm

Turkish Trotter wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:Realistically its between us and QPR
We have Spurs (H), West Brom (H) & Stoke (A) - QPR have Chelsea (A), Stoke (H) & Man City (A)

If they get more out of those 3 games than we do from ours then they will deserve to stay up (like Wigan), and we will deserve to go down.

I bet they wish they had our fixtures !


So Villa and Wigan are safe ??? Qpr win tomorrow and we win on Wednesday all 4 teams on 37 with 2 games each left. Can't see how you can say that ??
IMO I think its between us & QPR - others may disagree....

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:36 pm

BWFC1874 wrote:Regardless of how they might have been playing before, you can't say that you're not surprised Wigan have beaten Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal and now Newcastle surely?
If he could have bet a trifecta on any three of those games he would be a very rich man. Not be shocked seems to me like Monday morning quarterbacking (sorry BWFCi - I imagine the phrase is not common in the UK but I do find your post facto analysis less than credible).
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Jez » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:38 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
Turkish Trotter wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:Realistically its between us and QPR
We have Spurs (H), West Brom (H) & Stoke (A) - QPR have Chelsea (A), Stoke (H) & Man City (A)

If they get more out of those 3 games than we do from ours then they will deserve to stay up (like Wigan), and we will deserve to go down.

I bet they wish they had our fixtures !


So Villa and Wigan are safe ??? Qpr win tomorrow and we win on Wednesday all 4 teams on 37 with 2 games each left. Can't see how you can say that ??
IMO I think its between us & QPR - others may disagree....
Villas form means theyre just as in it as we and qpr are

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Turkish Trotter » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:43 pm

Why write Blackburn off ?? Win at Spurs tomorrow and beat Wigan they'd be on 37 points aswell.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:47 pm

Don't know how many of you have seen Wigan's goals, but they are pure class. When I saw them I got that same - fair play to you - feeling that I had when they won at The Emirates the other week.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by jaffka » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:51 pm

Very happy with that point today, to come back from behind as well.

Now a three match unbeaten run! Nice little run at the right time of the season.

Lets keep it going against the Spurs.

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Turkish Trotter » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:54 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Don't know how many of you have seen Wigan's goals, but they are pure class. When I saw them I got that same - fair play to you - feeling that I had when they won at The Emirates the other week.


I work with quite a few Wigan fans, and to listen to them they've been playing well most of the season but not had the luck in front of goal that all teams need. They've said all they were short of is a goalscorer and in the last few matches they seem to have found that touch. Although I also think they've tightened up at the back as well.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:55 pm

Don't come on site much during the actual game; more tripe flying about here than a UCP explosion.
Terrific result away against a sound side and we never let heads go down. Credit to Ricketts for a superb cross into the box for K.D's second. Just a couple of points (which I expect few will agree with):
Davies had to tackle the player for that free kick. Player knew it was coming and jumped. KD slid underneath him and said player just dropped his foot and did the agony mambo. ( If that was a free kick, how come Clattermole/Bargely (on purpose) got away with slide tackling Miachi and carrying him out of play without getting the ball? Officials today were rank in my view.

Bogdan has been superb but three of the last dead-ball goals against us really shouldn't have all gone in so easily. As for K.D, what needs saying?

All in all a fighting display, and well done the Whites. Just keep the pressure on and we'll do it.
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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by thebish » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
It's just the fact that so many posts are going on about how shocked they are by Wigans form for example. They've been doing that for months now, turned the corner when they won at the Reebok. There is nowt shocking about it
yet - they are only 3pts ahead of us having played one game more than us.

if as you say - we are shockingly gutless and utterly inept and a certainty for relegation - then that doesn't make them masters of the footballing universe - does it?

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by jaffka » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:13 pm

bwfci has a classic case of 'the other man's grass is always greener'

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by thebish » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:13 pm

Coyle apparently thinks the point was "terrific" 8)

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Post by jaffka » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:16 pm

thebish wrote:Coyle apparently thinks the point was "terrific" 8)
I agree :oyea:

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Re: Sunderland Away

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:16 pm

A great 4 pts from last 2 games. :pray:

No way am I writing Blackburn off. All the teams battling the drop seem capable of nicking points where you least expect them to. If we were in February then Villa would be looking doomed given everyone elses form.

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