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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by William the White » Sun May 13, 2012 7:33 pm

Turkish Trotter wrote:
I spend more and go more????
I've been going longer ????
It matters more to me ????

For Fcks sake lets get real, we all care and thats why we come on here discussing matters.
It doesn't matter if you go every game or don't go at all, it don't matter if you've gone for 50 years or just started,
OUR club is in the shite and we all care, stop having a go at each other and get behind OUR club, because by god they'll need us.
I agree with the sentiment entirely... The likelihood of it being put into practice is minimal...

One thing's for sure though - it's a serious consolation to BWFCi that he's always right...

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun May 13, 2012 7:36 pm

a1 wrote:
but megson had more of a clue about what to do when its not working.
Yep, go on gardening leave.
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Sun May 13, 2012 7:38 pm

Just a quick apology to you guys.

After reading this thread it seem's obvious that being positive, not shouting 'Coyle Out' out at every game (how did that chestnut work for Blackburn by the way?) or booing the players week in/week out has proved a direct cause in the club being relegated down to the championship.

So yeh, sorry.

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun May 13, 2012 7:39 pm

William the White wrote:
Turkish Trotter wrote:
I spend more and go more????
I've been going longer ????
It matters more to me ????

For Fcks sake lets get real, we all care and thats why we come on here discussing matters.
It doesn't matter if you go every game or don't go at all, it don't matter if you've gone for 50 years or just started,
OUR club is in the shite and we all care, stop having a go at each other and get behind OUR club, because by god they'll need us.
I agree with the sentiment entirely... The likelihood of it being put into practice is minimal...

One thing's for sure though - it's a serious consolation to BWFCi that he's always right...
Yeah of course it is..... :crazy:

Can't even speak I'm so gutted. Lost my voice screaming them on today.

I will be there next season. But It frustrates me how many people on here accept failure from a manager purely because he used to play for us for a couple of season. Why can't people just judge on results, not on their personality owt else?

What's happened this season and how we've thrown away our premiership status shouldn't just be tolerated as one of 'those things'. Not in my view.

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by jaffka » Sun May 13, 2012 7:45 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
William the White wrote:
Turkish Trotter wrote:
I spend more and go more????
I've been going longer ????
It matters more to me ????

For Fcks sake lets get real, we all care and thats why we come on here discussing matters.
It doesn't matter if you go every game or don't go at all, it don't matter if you've gone for 50 years or just started,
OUR club is in the shite and we all care, stop having a go at each other and get behind OUR club, because by god they'll need us.
I agree with the sentiment entirely... The likelihood of it being put into practice is minimal...

One thing's for sure though - it's a serious consolation to BWFCi that he's always right...
Yeah of course it is..... :crazy:

Can't even speak I'm so gutted. Lost my voice screaming them on today.
Not stopped you typing though has it...

I will be there next season. But It frustrates me how many people on here accept failure from a manager purely because he used to play for us for a couple of season. Why can't people just judge on results, not on their personality owt else?
You wont be the only one there...

What's happened this season and how we've thrown away our premiership status shouldn't just be tolerated as one of 'those things'. Not in my view.
Should we go and blow up the bok then? :help:

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun May 13, 2012 7:47 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: I will be there next season. But It frustrates me how many people on here accept failure from a manager purely because he used to play for us for a couple of season. Why can't people just judge on results, not on their personality owt else?
And what exactly do you think the opinions of "people" on a forum are capable of doing exactly? Should we all stop visiting Scotland, refuse to watch Olympic table tennis or put all our recycling stuff in the wrong bins maybe. Grow up man.
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Sun May 13, 2012 7:49 pm

I can only speak for myself but I paid good money to see 5 home games this season. We won one, got thrashed once and lost limply to 3 mediocre teams who in another season we'd have beaten.

I could well be one of the people Insane is having a go at but I can definitely see his point. Paying money and going along every other week to see what I saw in 4 out of 5 games must be awful.
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun May 13, 2012 7:50 pm

If its alright to defend my own stance, may I point out its got nowt to do with who he is, and everything to do with the mess he's been left. I don't believe compounding this will help. I'm sure, on reflection, Wolves will feel they should have stuck with McCarthy as the man best suited to bounce back.
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Turkish Trotter » Sun May 13, 2012 7:54 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
William the White wrote:
Turkish Trotter wrote:
I spend more and go more????
I've been going longer ????
It matters more to me ????

For Fcks sake lets get real, we all care and thats why we come on here discussing matters.
It doesn't matter if you go every game or don't go at all, it don't matter if you've gone for 50 years or just started,
OUR club is in the shite and we all care, stop having a go at each other and get behind OUR club, because by god they'll need us.
I agree with the sentiment entirely... The likelihood of it being put into practice is minimal...

One thing's for sure though - it's a serious consolation to BWFCi that he's always right...
Yeah of course it is..... :crazy:

Can't even speak I'm so gutted. Lost my voice screaming them on today.

I will be there next season. But It frustrates me how many people on here accept failure from a manager purely because he used to play for us for a couple of season. Why can't people just judge on results, not on their personality owt else?

What's happened this season and how we've thrown away our premiership status shouldn't just be tolerated as one of 'those things'. Not in my view.

No one's happy about it, But your constant bleating "I'll be there spending my money" really grates on people, who possably can no longer attend through various reasons. I for one have probably spent more and travelled further than alot of people on here, but can only attend a few matches now. It doesn't need people like yourself telling me I'm not a real supporter. Yes you'll be there next season, Well done for being a true superfan. Can't see anyone on here judging the manager because he's a nice guy, I personnally think thats all in your narrow mind.
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun May 13, 2012 7:55 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:If its alright to defend my own stance, may I point out its got nowt to do with who he is, and everything to do with the mess he's been left. I don't believe compounding this will help. I'm sure, on reflection, Wolves will feel they should have stuck with McCarthy as the man best suited to bounce back.
Well as you say he won't be going anywhere. I hope he puts it right. Most managers come into some sort of a mess. My main irritation is that had he only changed tactics a month or two earlier we'd have bagged the few extra points we needed. This was self inflicted.

I hope we have a belting season next time, cos by god wherever you sit on the Coyle in or out fence, he and the players owe us fans big time!

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Sun May 13, 2012 8:02 pm

At least I was there when Fat Frank pissed his pants.

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Dr.Karl » Sun May 13, 2012 8:09 pm

Can't believe the first goal was allowed. Having just seen it on ESPN goals it was a bloody disgrace. At the time, the whole stand was in disbelief it was given.

Apart from the first 25 minutes we looked very comfortable. Wrong subs again from the genius. Kevin Davies was out on his feet 10 minutes before he was hauled off. And Lee did almost feck all again, too much too soon. Even though we didn't play well Stoke were abysmal for most of the game. They will probably struggle next season if they continue to play like that.

Bottom line is we should have been professional enough to see it out and hope for a City miracle that we got. At the end of it all we didn't fulfil our end of the bargain which disappoints me more than anything. Bizarrely I'm not too disheartened by it all and looking forward to some games we might win. Hopefully without Coyle.
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by a1 » Sun May 13, 2012 8:13 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
Yep, go on gardening leave.
super selective quoting not taking the post as a whole.. but

whereas thedick gets a contract extension ?

the ginger c*nt never relegated us.

you can eat my plate of crow , i never ordered this shit. i were told it were gonna be ace having the ginger genius fecked off.

instead we got a clueless bastard and 40 members of his family that were better at throwing away leads at home too.

i'm not sure the football were even better when i think back.

we only finished about 4 points above a batshit blackburn. even though everyone working here and the crowd loves coyle.

something's to do.

and if i were to bet its probably that coyles shitter than megson. that takes some doing .

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun May 13, 2012 8:15 pm

He never relegated us because he wasn't given chance.

He did, however, plunge us into the levels of debt that may well yet finish this club.

Which is pretty impressive for a team in the relegation zone.
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun May 13, 2012 8:16 pm

TBH, its just a shame we still haven't got Danny Shittu, as this is more his level.
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Post by TKIZ! » Sun May 13, 2012 8:17 pm

wanderers_on_tour wrote:Just a quick apology to you guys.

After reading this thread it seem's obvious that being positive, not shouting 'Coyle Out' out at every game (how did that chestnut work for Blackburn by the way?) or booing the players week in/week out has proved a direct cause in the club being relegated down to the championship.

So yeh, sorry.
Oh you poor 'Rose-tinter' :lol:

I agree with everything you say by the way
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Worthy4England » Sun May 13, 2012 8:20 pm

Right, here's to next season. Can't wait.

Bigger wage bill than everyone in the league.
Injuries should be gone by then.
Can't get anything other than a dead easy start - every team we play next season in the league, was below us in the league, this season, most of them by a whole division, so it shouldn't matter which order they come out of the hat in.
Big name Premier League players.

Coyle will have us walking it.

But if he doesn't, someone will start with next season's excuses for the fcukwit.

Just out of interest, isn't saying to BWFCI "We said you'd come on here and tell us you were right all along", exactly the same as BWFCI coming on here to tell us all he was right all along? Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle.

Dumbfcuk should have gone in November. (As I believe I might have mentioned at the time, when I said we were going down, then.) :-)

Just as an aside of the teams that replaced their manager with another manager (rather than a coach) they stayed up. The ones that went down were the ones that replaced their manager with a coach or kept their manager who was really a coach, and us, who apparently had a manager, not noticeably better than a coach.

If we're skint this year (and I don't doubt we're fairly borassic), it's going to be a fcuking blast next year with no TV money and lower crowds.

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by a1 » Sun May 13, 2012 8:20 pm

TBH, its just a shame we still haven't got Danny Shittu, as this is more his level.
needs must with shittu , at least the ginger git knew we were short of fit uns.

coyle made do when our 2 best ones went down for the season.

i remember gartside telling him we had the money.

what/who the feck were he saving it for ?

feck.
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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Peter Thompson » Sun May 13, 2012 8:21 pm

BWFCI talks a lot of sense if you'd just take your fecking rose tinted glasses off for once....

Personally we deserve everything we got, its been coming for the past 3 years - we have a totally inept 'piss poor' chairman (3 awful appointments on the spin - Lee, Megson, Coyle) steering the sinking ship, and before anyone comes back with the debt & a sky high wage bill - it was PG who allowed this debt to rise and who allowed the wage bill to spiral - he allowed a certain Gary Megson to spunk £25-£30M which is unforgiveable knowing how much we already were in debt (admittedly to ED)

As Chairman he has fully responsibility for all things BWFC, so IMO the buck stops with him, and after 3 successive managerial failures and allowing our debt to spiral without any improvement whatsoever on the pitch is criminal - so he should go and take clueless with him. I don't want Gartside or Coyle anywhere near this club next season, but if I had to pick one to stay surprisingly it would be Coyle....who if he takes his naive clueless head from up his arse and starts to listen to people, could possibly be successful as manager in the championship - if he gets rid of the chuckle brother coaches and brings in a tactically switched on assitant and a coach who can actually can organise the team.

And to all the rose tinters - give your heads a shake, this has been coming all season and just burying your head in the sand and ignoring very obvious problems won't make things go away, the only way to move forward & improve is to admit to your failings and address the problems asap,

BTW you'll all wake up tomorrow feeling worse than you do tonight when reality really sets in that we are now a championship side - thanks to Phil Gartside & Owen Coyle

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Re: Doomsday: Stoke away

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sun May 13, 2012 8:22 pm

For me there is a lot of sense in most posts on here.

Coyle had a lot to cope with and difficult obstacles to overcome. At the same time, he was responsible for us being set out in vulnerable formations that everyone commentating on our games seemed to remark on.

Whatever, we're down. We can bitch and moan & I dont blame anyone for doing that, particularly those who spent shed loads of cash, but the sooner we all suck it up the better. Coyle aint going anywhere so lets get behind him for the new season. If we are struggling come October then perhaps it's time for the bedsheets to come out but until then they've got my full support.
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