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Help me understand....

Post by benjamin2006 » Sun May 13, 2012 6:49 pm

....what happened that semi final day in the dressing room that triggered our downfall. Why has Sordell not featured? Why did Bolton fans (and I include myself there) want Owen Coyle and Sandy Stewart as our management team (a history of below average Scottish upbringing in senior football...I am Scottish, by the way). Why, before every game this season, does Owen talk up the manager of the opposition (trust me)...and why has our defence been so awful this season.

We all have responsibility and accountability in our jobs...the buck stops with somebody.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Jez » Sun May 13, 2012 6:50 pm

Personally feel a lot of it can be attributed to a poor midfield without stu holden, the bad run started when he went

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Rip » Sun May 13, 2012 6:53 pm

The injury crisis and hard-hitting fixtures at the start of the season have had an impact too.

Sometimes bad luck really does play a big part.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by benjamin2006 » Sun May 13, 2012 7:39 pm

Thanks...good to hear your thoughts.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Karma » Sun May 13, 2012 7:57 pm

Jez wrote:Personally feel a lot of it can be attributed to a poor midfield without stu holden, the bad run started when he went
Does he play defense?

Rip wrote:The injury crisis and hard-hitting fixtures at the start of the season have had an impact too.

Sometimes bad luck really does play a big part.
Bad luck over 38 games? Can I hear the sounds of straws being clutched? This is why you have a 25 man squad to be used over the season. Every team gets injuries.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Rip » Sun May 13, 2012 8:12 pm

Bad luck over 38 games? Can I hear the sounds of straws being clutched? This is why you have a 25 man squad to be used over the season. Every team gets injuries.
The three best players, out in one season?

I'm not saying for sure that was what crocked us, but you can't tell what would have happened if Holden and Lee had been available.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Karma » Sun May 13, 2012 8:36 pm

Rip wrote:
Bad luck over 38 games? Can I hear the sounds of straws being clutched? This is why you have a 25 man squad to be used over the season. Every team gets injuries.
The three best players, out in one season?

I'm not saying for sure that was what crocked us, but you can't tell what would have happened if Holden and Lee had been available.
It's your manager not sorting your defense which has been letting in the goals, not the young players Holden and Lee who you pinned all your hopes on. Both good players, especially Lee I would definitely nick him off you if I could.

But your team should have had enough experience to beat the drop with out them, selling Cahill was terrible if the only player to replace him was Ream. Owen coyle has a lot to answer to and I don't get why he was allowed to take you down.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by a1 » Sun May 13, 2012 8:56 pm

youre wrong. the defence was also injured to fvck too.
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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun May 13, 2012 8:59 pm

We probably hould have told Cahill to sign a new contrat whilst he was at it aswell, you f*ckin numb c*nt.
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Re: Help me understand....

Post by jaffka » Sun May 13, 2012 9:01 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:We probably hould have told Cahill to sign a new contrat whilst he was at it aswell, you f*ckin numb c*nt.
:lol:

This one does seem to be especially thick.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Karma » Sun May 13, 2012 9:14 pm

No need for that language 'Lord Kangana' I didn't suggest that. I just didn't get what the point in selling him for little money when you were going to get relegated anyway, is that money really going to help you now? I suppose you can say it was a good choice considering you spent it on two championship standard players in Ream and Sordell. How many games has sordell played and scored in? Money well spent! Cahill would have saved you that extra point or two you would have needed, but selling Cahill was admitting you were doomed. The money from being in the Premier League, I mean BARCLAYS Premier League, would have made up for Cahill walking on a free. Are you lot that inbred and thick you can't see what I mean?

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun May 13, 2012 9:15 pm

Karma wrote:No need for that language 'Lord Kangana' I didn't suggest that. I just didn't get what the point in selling him for little money when you were going to get relegated anyway, is that money really going to help you now? I suppose you can say it was a good choice considering you spent it on two championship standard players in Ream and Sordell. How many games has sordell played and scored in? Money well spent! Cahill would have saved you that extra point or two you would have needed, but selling Cahill was admitting you were doomed. The money from being in the Premier League, I mean BARCLAYS Premier League, would have made up for Cahill walking on a free. Are you lot that inbred and thick you can't see what I mean?
We were going down with or without Cahill in the side. Look at the league table when he left....

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by a1 » Sun May 13, 2012 9:16 pm

Karma wrote:No need for that language 'Lord Kangana' I didn't suggest that. I just didn't get what the point in selling him for little money when you were going to get relegated anyway, is that money really going to help you now? I suppose you can say it was a good choice considering you spent it on two championship standard players in Ream and Sordell. How many games has sordell played and scored in? Money well spent! Cahill would have saved you that extra point or two you would have needed, but selling Cahill was admitting you were doomed. The money from being in the Premier League, I mean BARCLAYS Premier League, would have made up for Cahill walking on a free. Are you lot that inbred and thick you can't see what I mean?
its like that is it ?

feck off.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by a1 » Sun May 13, 2012 9:17 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:We probably hould have told Cahill to sign a new contrat whilst he was at it aswell, you f*ckin numb c*nt.
i'm quoting this too

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by jaffka » Sun May 13, 2012 9:25 pm

Karma wrote:No need for that language 'Lord Kangana' I didn't suggest that. I just didn't get what the point in selling him for little money when you were going to get relegated anyway, is that money really going to help you now? I suppose you can say it was a good choice considering you spent it on two championship standard players in Ream and Sordell. How many games has sordell played and scored in? Money well spent! Cahill would have saved you that extra point or two you would have needed, but selling Cahill was admitting you were doomed. The money from being in the Premier League, I mean BARCLAYS Premier League, would have made up for Cahill walking on a free. Are you lot that inbred and thick you can't see what I mean?
:conf:

You do realise that he was going out of contract, so selling him for "feck all" as opposed to giving him away was quite a good deal.

Did you used to post on here with the name abs, as I am sure that we have had this same conversation before. :conf:

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Karma » Sun May 13, 2012 9:28 pm

a1 wrote:
Karma wrote:No need for that language 'Lord Kangana' I didn't suggest that. I just didn't get what the point in selling him for little money when you were going to get relegated anyway, is that money really going to help you now? I suppose you can say it was a good choice considering you spent it on two championship standard players in Ream and Sordell. How many games has sordell played and scored in? Money well spent! Cahill would have saved you that extra point or two you would have needed, but selling Cahill was admitting you were doomed. The money from being in the Premier League, I mean BARCLAYS Premier League, would have made up for Cahill walking on a free. Are you lot that inbred and thick you can't see what I mean?
its like that is it ?

feck off.
Yes, after being called a fucking numb cunt, I thought I would reply on your intellectual level to maybe get through to you.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by jaffka » Sun May 13, 2012 9:34 pm

Karma wrote:
a1 wrote:
Karma wrote:No need for that language 'Lord Kangana' I didn't suggest that. I just didn't get what the point in selling him for little money when you were going to get relegated anyway, is that money really going to help you now? I suppose you can say it was a good choice considering you spent it on two championship standard players in Ream and Sordell. How many games has sordell played and scored in? Money well spent! Cahill would have saved you that extra point or two you would have needed, but selling Cahill was admitting you were doomed. The money from being in the Premier League, I mean BARCLAYS Premier League, would have made up for Cahill walking on a free. Are you lot that inbred and thick you can't see what I mean?
its like that is it ?

feck off.
Yes, after being called a fucking numb cunt, I thought I would reply on your intellectual level to maybe get through to you.
but you are a bit of a kant though

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by William the White » Sun May 13, 2012 9:35 pm

Karma wrote:
a1 wrote:
Karma wrote:No need for that language 'Lord Kangana' I didn't suggest that. I just didn't get what the point in selling him for little money when you were going to get relegated anyway, is that money really going to help you now? I suppose you can say it was a good choice considering you spent it on two championship standard players in Ream and Sordell. How many games has sordell played and scored in? Money well spent! Cahill would have saved you that extra point or two you would have needed, but selling Cahill was admitting you were doomed. The money from being in the Premier League, I mean BARCLAYS Premier League, would have made up for Cahill walking on a free. Are you lot that inbred and thick you can't see what I mean?
its like that is it ?

feck off.
Yes, after being called a fucking numb cunt, I thought I would reply on your intellectual level to maybe get through to you.
Not at all to do with intellect, just a cool judgment of the quality of your contribution...

The evidence is there above...

Try again, I'm hopeful if you work hard you'll post something interesting... Go for it... :D

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by a1 » Sun May 13, 2012 9:36 pm

but your statement was towards us all ?

"you lot"

i think the nigerian saw thru it before i did.

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i might be wrong.

whatever. we got fecking jipped today.

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Re: Help me understand....

Post by Karma » Sun May 13, 2012 9:36 pm

jaffka wrote:
Karma wrote:No need for that language 'Lord Kangana' I didn't suggest that. I just didn't get what the point in selling him for little money when you were going to get relegated anyway, is that money really going to help you now? I suppose you can say it was a good choice considering you spent it on two championship standard players in Ream and Sordell. How many games has sordell played and scored in? Money well spent! Cahill would have saved you that extra point or two you would have needed, but selling Cahill was admitting you were doomed. The money from being in the Premier League, I mean BARCLAYS Premier League, would have made up for Cahill walking on a free. Are you lot that inbred and thick you can't see what I mean?
:conf:

You do realise that he was going out of contract, so selling him for "feck all" as opposed to giving him away was quite a good deal.

Did you used to post on here with the name abs, as I am sure that we have had this same conversation before. :conf:
You do realise I've wrote this in my post if you were to read it properly, but I'll type it in a different way.

Cahill is a good player.
You didn't finish far off safety.
With Cahill in the side instead of that clown Ream I believe you would have gathered a couple more points.

Now in my opinion the 7 million (correct me if I'm wrong there) you received is nothing compared to the 40 million you will lose on TV revenue alone, that's not counting any sponsorships or corporate deals you may have also had.

Furthermore, wasting said 7 million on unproven BARCLAYS premier league players didn't seem like a good deal at the time to anyone with a brain (except mr barclays premier league) so in my opinion it wasn't "quite a good deal" as you say.


And no I have never posted on here before, I don't support Bolton thank God.

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