Is Bogdan really any better than Jussi??

[boltonboris]

The 3 games that you mention, Bodgan in net had no bearing on the result.

We won 1 of them and the other 2 we shipped 5(?) and 4 respectively.

Bodgans inclusion had no bearing on our league position.

[Jez]

The 2 keepers had almost identical goals conceeded per minute

as for goals outside the area

Jussi conceeded one every 270 minutes
Bogdan one every 225 (He conceeded 2 more)

Boggers made more saves per minute, and had a higher save percentage. So maybe some of jussis stats could be attributed to having gaz

Basically the stats show there was essentially feck all between them

edit: Should note these are prem stats, bogdans stunning performance against tottenham in the cup is not included

[truewhite15]

For me a big mistake of Coyles was to give Bogdan the No1 shirt in a relegation fight , at this point it was surely experience we needed even if Jussi's form had started to go ( and it has )
If you watch Bogdan you can see how nervous he is , which im sure will change the longer he keeps the shirt but a relegation fight was not the time to do it.
He had a shocker against Chelsea , dropped cross after cross against Blackburn and did his party trick , the easy take spill to the feet of the striker against spurs along with many others that gave him the comentators tag of mistake a game granted many of his mistakes he did get away with.
Would many other prem managers have gone with youth over experience in a relegation fight ? I do accept Bogdan has potential to get better and he did get away with many of his mistakes but it was just another stupid Coyle decision.
All that said there is no point going back to Jussi now , so Bogdan gets the nod for me in the championship but a relegation fight is not a place to let your keeper learn his trade !

*Cough*Ali Al Habsi*Cough*

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I still think selling AAH for £4m was a good piece of business.

Sadly, I'm yet to be convinced that the incoming money was spent wisely, but hey-ho.

[elfil76]

Agree with u, would do the same for that offer. Money not spend wisely, and oc realky sucks in making the best of the situation decisions.

[Leyther_Matt]

I still think selling AAH for £4m was a good piece of business.

Sadly, I'm yet to be convinced that the incoming money was spent wisely, but hey-ho.

Completely agree on that score.

Bogdan is better than Jussi was at the same ago IMHO (in fact Jussi had only just had his first season in the first team at the same age and was dropped(?) in favour of Steve Banks) which is certainly a good sign if he keeps on the right track.

[boltonboris]

I still think selling AAH for £4m was a good piece of business.

Sadly, I'm yet to be convinced that the incoming money was spent wisely, but hey-ho.

Completely agree on that score.

Bogdan is better than Jussi was at the same ago IMHO (in fact Jussi had only just had his first season in the first team at the same age and was dropped(?) in favour of Steve Banks) which is certainly a good sign if he keeps on the right track.

Jussi ruptured his cruciates and we got Banks in on loan

[Beefheart]

I still think selling AAH for £4m was a good piece of business.

Sadly, I'm yet to be convinced that the incoming money was spent wisely, but hey-ho.

I'd have Bogdan + Ngog over AAH + No Ngog personally.

[boltonboris]

Am I the only person who rates N'gog? He's 24, has more natural ability than most we've seen at our club and I reckon he'll fill his boots in the Championship

[thebish]

Am I the only person who rates N'gog? He's 24, has more natural ability than most we've seen at our club and I reckon he'll fill his boots in the Championship

no - you're not... I think it this season could be the making of him... I think he'll relish the extra space and time he is afforded...

(but - bear in mind that I thought most seasons would be "Vaz Te's season"!)

[Leyther_Matt]

I still think selling AAH for £4m was a good piece of business.

Sadly, I'm yet to be convinced that the incoming money was spent wisely, but hey-ho.

Completely agree on that score.

Bogdan is better than Jussi was at the same ago IMHO (in fact Jussi had only just had his first season in the first team at the same age and was dropped(?) in favour of Steve Banks) which is certainly a good sign if he keeps on the right track.

Jussi ruptured his cruciates and we got Banks in on loan

Not 100% now you mention it, but that was in 2000/2001 when we got Matt Clarke on loan, wasn't it?

[Jez]

Am I the only person who rates N'gog? He's 24, has more natural ability than most we've seen at our club and I reckon he'll fill his boots in the Championship

no - you're not... I think it this season could be the making of him... I think he'll relish the extra space and time he is afforded...

(but - bear in mind that I thought most seasons would be "Vaz Te's season"!)

You were right on Vaz Te though, eventually! as soon as he got his championship break actually

[officer_dibble]

For me its a confidence thing with Ngog.. He needs to be more comfortable shooting. He might be a better bet as a wide forward in a 433 as well. Either way I'm more confident in his ability than I am in the ability of our coaching staff to get the best out of him.

[Verbal]

I still think selling AAH for £4m was a good piece of business.

Sadly, I'm yet to be convinced that the incoming money was spent wisely, but hey-ho.

Completely agree on that score.

Bogdan is better than Jussi was at the same ago IMHO (in fact Jussi had only just had his first season in the first team at the same age and was dropped(?) in favour of Steve Banks) which is certainly a good sign if he keeps on the right track.

Jussi ruptured his cruciates and we got Banks in on loan

Not 100% now you mention it, but that was in 2000/2001 when we got Matt Clarke on loan, wasn't it?

Yeah, Clarke was our 'keeper in the playoff final against Preston.

Gareth Farrelly

[boltonboris]

I still think selling AAH for £4m was a good piece of business.

Sadly, I'm yet to be convinced that the incoming money was spent wisely, but hey-ho.

Completely agree on that score.

Bogdan is better than Jussi was at the same ago IMHO (in fact Jussi had only just had his first season in the first team at the same age and was dropped(?) in favour of Steve Banks) which is certainly a good sign if he keeps on the right track.

Jussi ruptured his cruciates and we got Banks in on loan

Not 100% now you mention it, but that was in 2000/2001 when we got Matt Clarke on loan, wasn't it?

Getting confused. I got Clarke and Banks mixed up...

[Leyther_Matt]

I still think selling AAH for £4m was a good piece of business.

Sadly, I'm yet to be convinced that the incoming money was spent wisely, but hey-ho.

Completely agree on that score.

Bogdan is better than Jussi was at the same ago IMHO (in fact Jussi had only just had his first season in the first team at the same age and was dropped(?) in favour of Steve Banks) which is certainly a good sign if he keeps on the right track.

Jussi ruptured his cruciates and we got Banks in on loan

Not 100% now you mention it, but that was in 2000/2001 when we got Matt Clarke on loan, wasn't it?

Getting confused. I got Clarke and Banks mixed up...

One was good, one was a midget. Simples.

[AussieTrotter]

I always felt spoiled having Jussi in goal, regardless of how we played, he tended to do some stellar things in a game, which is why it was difficult to watch Bogdan take over the number one jersey, but if you look at the stats he hasn't been bad at all and certainly wasn't the reason we had such an ordinary season.

[Sponge]

I always felt spoiled having Jussi in goal, regardless of how we played, he tended to do some stellar things in a game, which is why it was difficult to watch Bogdan take over the number one jersey, but if you look at the stats he hasn't been bad at all and certainly wasn't the reason we had such an ordinary season.

I think "shite" is the word you were looking for.

[AussieTrotter]

I always felt spoiled having Jussi in goal, regardless of how we played, he tended to do some stellar things in a game, which is why it was difficult to watch Bogdan take over the number one jersey, but if you look at the stats he hasn't been bad at all and certainly wasn't the reason we had such an ordinary season.

I think "shite" is the word you were looking for.

Honestly, shite is probably as much of an understatement as ordinary.

[Sponge]

I always felt spoiled having Jussi in goal, regardless of how we played, he tended to do some stellar things in a game, which is why it was difficult to watch Bogdan take over the number one jersey, but if you look at the stats he hasn't been bad at all and certainly wasn't the reason we had such an ordinary season.

I think "shite" is the word you were looking for.

Honestly, shite is probably as much of an understatement as ordinary.

Touché.