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Re: Holden

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:25 pm

Davies being there also assumes however that Coyle would also play a system to allow him to play-make and as you say not be a physical bod in a 4-4-2.

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Re: Holden

Post by bedwetter2 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:17 pm

I don't like the use of the phrase "last leg" regarding that Holden report in the BN.

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Re: Holden

Post by Peter Thompson » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:37 pm

I'll be very surprised if Holden ever gets back to anything near the form he was in before the injury - like everyone else I hope he does though

I thought he'd be ready for the start of the season, but now it's being reported that he may be fit for October - that's some fecking injury the lad suffered, that means it will be around 18 months since the Evans incident.

Sounds a bit like the Davis situation to me

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Re: Holden

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:43 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:that's some fecking injury the lad suffered, that means it will be around 18 months since the Evans incident.

Sounds a bit like the Davis situation to me
He's suffered two though, hasn't he? He came back after the Evans incident but then did his cruciate didn't he? Have I dreamed that up? :?
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Re: Holden

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:48 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:that's some fecking injury the lad suffered, that means it will be around 18 months since the Evans incident.

Sounds a bit like the Davis situation to me
He's suffered two though, hasn't he? He came back after the Evans incident but then did his cruciate didn't he? Have I dreamed that up? :?
Injured in his first game, on the same knee ?? I'd say that was a linked injury.
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Re: Holden

Post by Tombwfc » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:49 pm

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ohjimmyjimmy wrote:Hmm going to be tough IMO, we'll be placing a lot of our creative hopes on a winger who's been out for a whole year and another who may or may not be arsed about playing at Barnsley on a cold autumn/winter's night. And no creativity through the centre is something even the most average of sub-premiershop managers & coaches can adapt to defend against.
Surely that's what Mark Davies is for?

At this level, Pratley will be considered creative.
On what basis? How shit do you think the Championship is?

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Re: Holden

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:19 pm

Tombwfc wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:Hmm going to be tough IMO, we'll be placing a lot of our creative hopes on a winger who's been out for a whole year and another who may or may not be arsed about playing at Barnsley on a cold autumn/winter's night. And no creativity through the centre is something even the most average of sub-premiershop managers & coaches can adapt to defend against.
Surely that's what Mark Davies is for?

At this level, Pratley will be considered creative.
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Re: Holden

Post by officer_dibble » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:31 pm

Was Davis' injury knee as well?

You can always rely on PT to depress even further. :D

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Re: Holden

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:40 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:that's some fecking injury the lad suffered, that means it will be around 18 months since the Evans incident.

Sounds a bit like the Davis situation to me
He's suffered two though, hasn't he? He came back after the Evans incident but then did his cruciate didn't he? Have I dreamed that up? :?
Injured in his first game, on the same knee ?? I'd say that was a linked injury.
Well you would. What with you being a medical expert and everything! :?
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Re: Holden

Post by jimbo » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:57 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:that's some fecking injury the lad suffered, that means it will be around 18 months since the Evans incident.

Sounds a bit like the Davis situation to me
He's suffered two though, hasn't he? He came back after the Evans incident but then did his cruciate didn't he? Have I dreamed that up? :?
I could be wrong but I've got a feeling he broke something in his knee. Either the tibia or femur in the joint itself. Not a common injury. Anyway, it was operated on, pinned etc, and he was recovering well. Came back against Villa, felt a bit of pain, got reassessed, and they found out the pin was out of place and had caused damage to the cartilage, which was the second injury. As I said, I could be wrong, but that rings a bell.

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Re: Holden

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:24 pm

jimbo wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:that's some fecking injury the lad suffered, that means it will be around 18 months since the Evans incident.

Sounds a bit like the Davis situation to me
He's suffered two though, hasn't he? He came back after the Evans incident but then did his cruciate didn't he? Have I dreamed that up? :?
I could be wrong but I've got a feeling he broke something in his knee. Either the tibia or femur in the joint itself. Not a common injury. Anyway, it was operated on, pinned etc, and he was recovering well. Came back against Villa, felt a bit of pain, got reassessed, and they found out the pin was out of place and had caused damage to the cartilage, which was the second injury. As I said, I could be wrong, but that rings a bell.
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Re: Holden

Post by jimbo » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:27 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:that's some fecking injury the lad suffered, that means it will be around 18 months since the Evans incident.

Sounds a bit like the Davis situation to me
He's suffered two though, hasn't he? He came back after the Evans incident but then did his cruciate didn't he? Have I dreamed that up? :?
I could be wrong but I've got a feeling he broke something in his knee. Either the tibia or femur in the joint itself. Not a common injury. Anyway, it was operated on, pinned etc, and he was recovering well. Came back against Villa, felt a bit of pain, got reassessed, and they found out the pin was out of place and had caused damage to the cartilage, which was the second injury. As I said, I could be wrong, but that rings a bell.
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Re: Holden

Post by Prufrock » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:41 am

How about a job as a doctor?
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Re: Holden

Post by Hoboh » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:35 am

Prufrock wrote:How about a job as a doctor?
I'll take Gynaecologist please :D

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Re: Holden

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:45 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:that's some fecking injury the lad suffered, that means it will be around 18 months since the Evans incident. Sounds a bit like the Davis situation to me
He's suffered two though, hasn't he? He came back after the Evans incident but then did his cruciate didn't he? Have I dreamed that up? :?
I could be wrong but I've got a feeling he broke something in his knee. Either the tibia or femur in the joint itself. Not a common injury. Anyway, it was operated on, pinned etc, and he was recovering well. Came back against Villa, felt a bit of pain, got reassessed, and they found out the pin was out of place and had caused damage to the cartilage, which was the second injury. As I said, I could be wrong, but that rings a bell.
That is correcto.
Proof from the BN
WANDERERS have been dealt a huge blow with the news that Stuart Holden will be missing for the next six months. The US international was nearing a first team return for the Whites but has been called back into hospital for a follow-up procedure on the knee injury he sustained in March. It was during the operation that doctors discovered cartilage damage that could well mean his season is over already.
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Stuart Holden is set to miss six months of the season after a routine procedural follow up on the operation for his knee injury revealed cartilage damage. Manager Owen Coyle said: "It is a big, big blow for Stuart because he has worked so hard after he sustained the injury, but obviously the most important aspect is to ensure Stuart's well being and that's what we are focused on. He went in for the procedure this afternoon and it was picked up that the cartilage was damaged and needed to be repaired, which has now happened, and we will now support Stuart as he begins his recovery."

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Re: Holden

Post by H. Pedersen » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:46 pm

The more I hear about this, the less optimistic I am that he'll ever make an impact for us again.

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Re: Holden

Post by Jokers in White » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:38 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:The more I hear about this, the less optimistic I am that he'll ever make an impact for us again.
I doubt it too, he's had alot of injuries in his career so i think the lad is fcuked.
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Re: Holden

Post by Jokers in White » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:42 pm

When a player gets injured now at Bolton and they say he will be out for 6 months you can almost double that with the shit backroom staff we have now.
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Re: Holden

Post by Clean Shirt » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:32 pm

Jokers in White wrote:
H. Pedersen wrote:The more I hear about this, the less optimistic I am that he'll ever make an impact for us again.
I doubt it too, he's had alot of injuries in his career so i think the lad is fcuked.
He seems pretty optimistic about it himself, he'll definitely be back.
Whether he's the same player he was is a different matter, we'll just have to wait and see.

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Re: Holden

Post by a1 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:35 pm

he broke his leg against hollan^H^H^H^H got twatted by a shit footballer while playing for his national team and come back pretty good.

if alls reet . that we're in the division teamcoyle seemed to be aiming for, it might do stuart a favour , as its fecking shite, and we'll be miles better than everyone and that by being in a team that wins by 4 goals all the time will make it easier for him to get back to awexome.

i'd prefer it if they (bolton) banned him from playing even if he's fit , til we're definately up.

so i wouldnt play him til boxingday/shrove tuesday/bonfire night/whenever

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