1 for 1 debate

[TKIZ!]

Can't. Everyone knows that Nicky Hunt is a football genius

[bwfcdan94]

he is alright prefer stienson though

[Prufrock]

Nicky's problem is he was always played out of position.

[Wandering Willy]

Yep - should never have left the changing room.

[bwfcdan94]

Yep - should never have left the changing room.

[Sir Nut]

Owen Coyle for Gary Meg...

i honestly would take that if someone offered me that now

Really? Why? Just honestly interested to know

because coyle managed to achieve something near impossible that megson couldnt - relegate us, i honestly belive the season he lost his job ( i saw him just minuites after he was sacked outside the reebok with all his stuff in his arms waiking to his car) he would have just kept us up but only just mind

I don't think he would have done, but that's by the by. He would probably have taken us down the season after though. In contrast, Coyle kept us up comfortably that first season, and then we spent the first 3/4s of last season dancing in the top half. Megson would have never gotten us there. Whether Megson would have kept us up last season is debatable, but I happen to think he wouldn't have done.

The season after we wouldn't of signed, Petrov, Blake, Alonso, we wouldnn't of had K Davies so the hoof ball would of gone! We would of been looking at players like veloso and Morrison. It was Megsons team that kept Coyle in the prem for 2 seasons, No, lee, elamander, Taylor, Robinson, Knight was dropped, Klasnic bit part = No more carrying Coyle.

[Sir Nut]

Owen Coyle for Gary Meg...

i honestly would take that if someone offered me that now

Really? Why? Just honestly interested to know

because coyle managed to achieve something near impossible that megson couldnt - relegate us, i honestly belive the season he lost his job ( i saw him just minuites after he was sacked outside the reebok with all his stuff in his arms waiking to his car) he would have just kept us up but only just mind

I don't think he would have done, but that's by the by. He would probably have taken us down the season after though. In contrast, Coyle kept us up comfortably that first season, and then we spent the first 3/4s of last season dancing in the top half. Megson would have never gotten us there. Whether Megson would have kept us up last season is debatable, but I happen to think he wouldn't have done.

The season after we wouldn't of signed, Petrov, Blake, Alonso, we wouldnn't of had K Davies so the hoof ball would of gone! We would of been looking at players like veloso and Morrison. It was Megsons team that kept Coyle in the prem for 2 seasons, No lee, elmander, Taylor, Robinson, muamba Knight was dropped, Klasnic bit part = No more carrying Coyle.

[Hoboh]

The season after we wouldn't of signed, Petrov, Blake, Alonso, we wouldnn't of had K Davies so the hoof ball would of gone! We would of been looking at players like veloso and Morrison. It was Megsons team that kept Coyle in the prem for 2 seasons, No lee, elmander, Taylor, Robinson, muamba Knight was dropped, Klasnic bit part = No more carrying Coyle.

Your taking the p*ss there, you know it!

[Sir Nut]

The season after we wouldn't of signed, Petrov, Blake, Alonso, we wouldnn't of had K Davies so the hoof ball would of gone! We would of been looking at players like veloso and Morrison. It was Megsons team that kept Coyle in the prem for 2 seasons, No lee, elmander, Taylor, Robinson, muamba Knight was dropped, Klasnic bit part = No more carrying Coyle.

Your taking the p*ss there, you know it!

They are the sort of players he was looking at.

[truewhite15]

Fcuk me, look who's back.

[Puskas]

The season after we wouldn't of signed, Petrov, Blake, Alonso, we wouldnn't of had K Davies so the hoof ball would of gone!

Indeed we wouldn't, as we'd have been in the Championship.

It would have been interesting to see if Megson could have repeated his trick with Forest and got us relegated to the third tier, too. But not so interesting as I'd want to watch it.

People need to understand that, simply because Coyle isn't a very good manager, doesn't mean that Megson is competent. He isn't. Any more than George Mulhall not being very good meant Stan Anderson was a genius. Whoever they are (my grandad mentioned the names to me, I'm far too young to know anything about them, myself).

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

People need to understand that, simply because Coyle isn't a very good manager, doesn't mean that Megson is competent. He isn't. Any more than George Mulhall not being very good meant Stan Anderson was a genius.

<applause>
Adversarial argument taking the place of reasoned debate. I blame Newsnight.

[a1]

how come teamcoyle 'isnt very good' but ginger bastard is 'incompetent'

to me its t'other way round if you watched the team play.

gingerget played steinsson on the wing once. and once dropped half the team coz theyd not picked up a point for ages.

coyle played folk out of position almost every week and subbed muamba that many times it were like he were tryna throw games away on purpose.

gingerget couldnt make the team keep a clean sheet to save its life.

coyle could probably get them to, one in a blue moon. but they would lose matches by at least two clear goals in at least 4 of the 8 matches in between.

megson shoulda gone.

coyle should already be gone.

[Clean Shirt]

Owen Coyle for Gary Meg...

i honestly would take that if someone offered me that now

Really? Why? Just honestly interested to know

I can understand people that would want Coyle gone from our club.
But Megson back in? Really?

[the-Bowtun-Warrior]

I certainly don't want the guy back.
In fact, I'd never have him back.

But I said on a few occasions last year that even he would've kept us up.
If we only went down on the final game by such a narrow margin, I'm adamant even he would've seen us get more that we went down with.

I hate myself every time I say it.
But I honestly believe it.

[Prufrock]

Why? He wasn't the devil? No matter how shit he was he was only ever a manager of our club. Why would you hate yourself for thinking he'd have got more points, even if you'd rather we hadn't. Just seems bizarre.

[Puskas]

how come teamcoyle 'isnt very good' but ginger bastard is 'incompetent'

to me its t'other way round if you watched the team play.

Ah, but I never watched the team play.

In fact, I wasn't trying to imply any particular ordering of the two. I just didn't want to use the same phrase to describe them.

[bwfcdan94]

how come teamcoyle 'isnt very good' but ginger bastard is 'incompetent'

to me its t'other way round if you watched the team play.

gingerget played steinsson on the wing once. and once dropped half the team coz theyd not picked up a point for ages.

coyle played folk out of position almost every week and subbed muamba that many times it were like he were tryna throw games away on purpose.

gingerget couldnt make the team keep a clean sheet to save its life.

coyle could probably get them to, one in a blue moon. but they would lose matches by at least two clear goals in at least 4 of the 8 matches in between.

megson shoulda gone.

exactly rather have ginger playing rubbish football and picking up points when it was crucial ( boro away, sunderland home). then tee total sweatie playing good football but not having the substance to win important games (wba and spurs home, stoke away, wigan home etc etc)

coyle should already be gone.

[H. Pedersen]

I certainly don't want the guy back.
In fact, I'd never have him back.

But I said on a few occasions last year that even he would've kept us up.
If we only went down on the final game by such a narrow margin, I'm adamant even he would've seen us get more that we went down with.

I hate myself every time I say it.
But I honestly believe it.

Megson was just as bad tactically as Coyle, just in the opposite way. Coyle was bad defensively, Megson offensively. The difference was that Megson had a relative fortune to spend on transfers and wages. Give Coyle the money that Megson had and we would have stayed up. Put Megson in Coyle's situation and we'd have gone down.

[BWFC_Insane]

I certainly don't want the guy back.
In fact, I'd never have him back.

But I said on a few occasions last year that even he would've kept us up.
If we only went down on the final game by such a narrow margin, I'm adamant even he would've seen us get more that we went down with.

I hate myself every time I say it.
But I honestly believe it.

Megson was just as bad tactically as Coyle, just in the opposite way. Coyle was bad defensively, Megson offensively. The difference was that Megson had a relative fortune to spend on transfers and wages. Give Coyle the money that Megson had and we would have stayed up. Put Megson in Coyle's situation and we'd have gone down.

Megson wasn't particularly astute tactically defensively, he just realised you needed a midfield.

Were he in charge last season we'd have stayed up, because he'd not have persisted with the ridiculous system Coyle employed for 3/4 of the season.

It wouldn't have taken even an average manager.

Just one that wasn't completely and utterly deluded.