Is Zat Knight Half as bad as is perceived on here?

[n035209]

I for one don't think he is all that bad a defender, OK can be a bit stationary, but cant see attackers getting much out of him in the championship.

I cant be arsed but could some one dig the figures out for last season, for goals conceded with and without him? would go some way as to decided whether i'm deluded or not.

[BWFC_Insane]

He's just dopey. And thats the problem, physically he should compete all the time but he switches off, drops deep when the rest push up, loses runners and doesn't use his physicality enough.

All round he could be excellent but the aforementioned faults mean he is always going to be lacklustre at best and downright clownlike at worst.

[boltonboris]

He has all the attributes, but he's just a cumbersome, empty head who doesn't like to do the dirty work despite being 6.6' and about 17st.

He CAN be decent sometimes, he can be mediocre sometimes. He can also be absolutely feckin' dreaful quite often.

That goal that we conceded at Stoke (the Lofthouse type one from Walters) summed him up. Just let the forward get goal side of him and he had no idea where he was

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Is Zat Knight Half as bad as is precieved on here?

I before E except after C.

But Knight will do for cover, that's about as much as i can say about the guy as a player.

I think his antics on the pitch after the fulham game will always add a cynical edge to a lot of Bolton fans' view of him from now on, however.

[n035209]

Is Zat Knight Half as bad as is precieved on here?

I before E except after C.

But Knight will do for cover, that's about as much as i can say about the guy as a player.

I think his antics on the pitch after the fulham game will always add a cynical edge to a lot of Bolton fans' view of him from now on, however.

You must of been mid criticism as I changed it. Sir.

What did he do at the Fulham games?

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Is Zat Knight Half as bad as is precieved on here?

I before E except after C.

But Knight will do for cover, that's about as much as i can say about the guy as a player.

I think his antics on the pitch after the fulham game will always add a cynical edge to a lot of Bolton fans' view of him from now on, however.

You must of been mid criticism as I changed it. Sir.

What did he do at the Fulham games?

Good on you

He was smiling & laughing with his old pals on the pitch after we'd just been torn a new one.
Upset a few people.

[Worthy4England]

Is Zat Knight Half as bad as is precieved on here?

I before E except after C.

But Knight will do for cover, that's about as much as i can say about the guy as a player.

I think his antics on the pitch after the fulham game will always add a cynical edge to a lot of Bolton fans' view of him from now on, however.

You must of been mid criticism as I changed it. Sir.

What did he do at the Fulham games?

Tell him he missed our E before R too. So he only did half a job anyhow!

[a1]

he crap.

gerry taggart crap

[Bruce Rioja]

Just watch City's 3rd again at our place last season. That'll tell anyone everything they could ever want to know about Zat Knight

[officer_dibble]

He's a prick.

As well as everything above he's scored one/two goals in 3 years from corners? He never competes at set peices, never wants it as much as the opposition. Bloke his size should dominate.

Lack of ability i can accept but this bloke has tge attributes, he just cant be arsed putting them to use.

[Bruno3]

6ft -6ins stood still and 6ft - 5ins when he jumps (if he can be bothered jumping)

[Tombwfc]

No, he's not. He's no worse than Wheater (who seems to me to posses all of the attributes Zat does, and also rarely ever looks a threat from corners) while I've not totally made my mind up about Ream. Tim's either slightly better or slightly worse than them both, I can't decide.

I don't believe any of his flaws as a player would be solved if he looked inconsolable after any defeat.

[BWFC_Insane]

No, he's not. He's no worse than Wheater (who seems to me to posses all of the attributes Zat does, and also rarely ever looks a threat from corners) while I've not totally made my mind up about Ream. Tim's either slightly better or slightly worse than them both, I can't decide.

I don't believe any of his flaws as a player would be solved if he looked inconsolable after any defeat.

Wheater may well be no better or worse, technically, but at least he seems to enjoy the physical side of the game and seems prepared to put his head and body in where it hurts. He seems to have some determination.

Zat is the opposite whereas he seems technically more gifted but plays often like he doesn't have a care in the world......

[ohjimmyjimmy]

No, he's not. He's no worse than Wheater (who seems to me to posses all of the attributes Zat does, and also rarely ever looks a threat from corners) while I've not totally made my mind up about Ream. Tim's either slightly better or slightly worse than them both, I can't decide.

I don't believe any of his flaws as a player would be solved if he looked inconsolable after any defeat.

Fans will forgive many a flaw if a player looks like he at least gives a shit.
If a player's form or performance can be imporoved say 20% due to having the confidence & comfort of knowing that the fans are on your side and will be more forgiving to the odd error, then i would say it's worth trying not to wind them up with stupid acts when you know you're the kind of player who is going to make more than the odd error !

[Worthy4England]

No, he's not. He's no worse than Wheater (who seems to me to posses all of the attributes Zat does, and also rarely ever looks a threat from corners) while I've not totally made my mind up about Ream. Tim's either slightly better or slightly worse than them both, I can't decide.

I don't believe any of his flaws as a player would be solved if he looked inconsolable after any defeat.

Agree with the "inconsolable after a game bit". It's neither here nor there.

Like you not made my mind up about Ream.

Wheater, whilst "putting it about" a bit more is an order of magnitude more likely to get sent off for putting it about in the wrong part of the field at the wrong time - especially if we're playing a higher line and they have some marginally fast players.

I'd honestly struggle to split the three of them by the width of a fag paper in terms of overall performance.

[Beefheart]

Honestly can't believe anyone actually thinks there's nothing between Knight and Wheater. Wheater is far better.

[BWFC_Insane]

Honestly can't believe anyone actually thinks there's nothing between Knight and Wheater. Wheater is far better.

Far better is stretching it.

Both have their drawbacks.

Neither are particularly good.

[wanderers_on_tour]

Are people being serious? Wheater was one of our best players towards the end of last season, well before his injury at least, second only maybe to Petrov.

Knight is decent, but nothing more. Good enough for 3rd choice centre back in the championship though, almost over qualified.

[Jez]

Knight spent a lot of time on the bench towards the end of last season, maybe with the realization that he wont be waltzing into the first team we will see him fighting for his place. Hes not bad, he's a gifted footballer, he wouldn't have England caps if he wasn't. As for headed goals, he only has 8 career goals, you can be tall and not be gifted in the air and thats probably something to accept but I personally think with the right attitude and workrate he could be too good for this division. He's made the first step by signing a deal on reduced terms despite being a bench warmer, maybe he's ready to step it up a bit?

[Puskas]

I'd like to see the club introduce a scale of permitted emotions for players, to be linked to pay/bonuses.

If we win they are permitted to smile. Maybe even laugh. If we win by more than 3 goals, they _must_ be grinning as broadly as possible. Compulsory smiling.

If we lose, no smiling is allowed. Lose by three or more and they should throw themselves to the floor, weeping, possibly whipping themselves with nettles. Hair shirts should be encouraged.

Otherwise, how will we know they care?