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Re: Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok

Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:40 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:At right back where we have 1 x crock + 1 x kid. Is that your idea of that position being covered? Because for my money that amounts to us not having a right back at all!
Why is Mears classed as a crock?
He's just been out for a bloody year, man!
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Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:41 am

Relentless09 wrote:Been chasing this Sanchez for 7-8 weeks and it looks like a no go. We really do have a habit of this, the season starts in 2 weeks and we still lack a defensive midfielder and probably need loans for a striker, maybe a midfield player and a defender.
I really doubt he was the only iron in the fire.
Cant blame them for trying for the top of the list first and then working down.

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Re: Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok

Post by Prufrock » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:43 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:At right back where we have 1 x crock + 1 x kid. Is that your idea of that position being covered? Because for my money that amounts to us not having a right back at all!
But it is fine! What with Alonso not being shit, Ricketts can play there :D.
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Re: Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:43 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:At right back where we have 1 x crock + 1 x kid. Is that your idea of that position being covered? Because for my money that amounts to us not having a right back at all!
Why is Mears classed as a crock?
He's just been out for a bloody year, man!
Well yes after a broken leg. Hopefully he's fit now.

Same as LCY.

I'd not be labelling either as a "crock" yet.

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Re: Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok

Post by Gail Platz » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:45 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:At right back where we have 1 x crock + 1 x kid. Is that your idea of that position being covered? Because for my money that amounts to us not having a right back at all!
Why is Mears classed as a crock?
He's just been out for a bloody year, man!
There's a difference between a crock and someone who's just had a bad injury. Mears was the result of that lumbering pile of shit Knight breaking his leg and as far as I can recall isn't one for persistent injuries.

As for Riley I'm sure he's only going to get more and more appearances now so I don't see why him and Mears isn't good cover at right back.

A championship club does not need three right backs in addition to Sam Ricketts who can also cover there.

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Post by Relentless09 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:46 am

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Relentless09 wrote:Been chasing this Sanchez for 7-8 weeks and it looks like a no go. We really do have a habit of this, the season starts in 2 weeks and we still lack a defensive midfielder and probably need loans for a striker, maybe a midfield player and a defender.
We are getting Afobe for a loan striker are we not?

Agree we need a big bastard in midfield. But generally we're in pretty decent shape squad wise, IMO. Virtually 2 teams can be named, so cover for every position, just about. Not bad.
Well Afobe seems a good additional, apparently is very highly rated and has a good future.

The big midfielder role is a must.

We still have this loan from Chelsea, bring in a young utility defender

Then maybe if something sudden comes up we get that player e.g Sordell deal fast forwarded

This season is much longer than last and as always we can expect injuries. We always were known for having a relatively small squad and losing 15 players doesn't help. I feel we have a good squad but I'd prefer we maybe introduce more youth players or sign a couple more.

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Post by CrazyHorse » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:47 am

More Alan Dixson twitter nonsense:
Think Afobe will be with your team tomorrow. Sanchez won't. Anyone want to query whether he is in the country or not? ;-)
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Re: Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok

Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:49 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Bruce Rioja wrote:At right back where we have 1 x crock + 1 x kid. Is that your idea of that position being covered? Because for my money that amounts to us not having a right back at all!
Why is Mears classed as a crock?
He's just been out for a bloody year, man!
Well yes after a broken leg. Hopefully he's fit now.

Same as LCY.

I'd not be labelling either as a "crock" yet.
Soooooooo predictable.:roll:

If CYL proves not to be fit, or breaks down then it's far from ideal, but we'll cope, we can cover. If Mears breaks down then that leaves a young boy, who you happen to rate on the evidence of one good game against shit opposition, despite you yesterday only a solitary post before claiming that you never judge a player on one good game against shit opposition.

So, back to the point. Do you seriously think that RB is covered with Mears and Riley?
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Post by Jez » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:01 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:At right back where we have 1 x crock + 1 x kid. Is that your idea of that position being covered? Because for my money that amounts to us not having a right back at all!
Why is Mears classed as a crock?
He's just been out for a bloody year, man!
Well yes after a broken leg. Hopefully he's fit now.

Same as LCY.

I'd not be labelling either as a "crock" yet.
Soooooooo predictable.:roll:

If CYL proves not to be fit, or breaks down then it's far from ideal, but we'll cope, we can cover. If Mears breaks down then that leaves a young boy, who you happen to rate on the evidence of one good game against shit opposition, despite you yesterday only a solitary post before claiming that you never judge a player on one good game against shit opposition.

So, back to the point. Do you seriously think that RB is covered with Mears and Riley?
What about ricketts?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:02 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:At right back where we have 1 x crock + 1 x kid. Is that your idea of that position being covered? Because for my money that amounts to us not having a right back at all!
Why is Mears classed as a crock?
He's just been out for a bloody year, man!
Well yes after a broken leg. Hopefully he's fit now.

Same as LCY.

I'd not be labelling either as a "crock" yet.
Soooooooo predictable.:roll:

If CYL proves not to be fit, or breaks down then it's far from ideal, but we'll cope, we can cover. If Mears breaks down then that leaves a young boy, who you happen to rate on the evidence of one good game against shit opposition, despite you yesterday only a solitary post before claiming that you never judge a player on one good game against shit opposition.

So, back to the point. Do you seriously think that RB is covered with Mears and Riley?
Yep from what I've seen of Riley I'm happy with it as it stands.

As a championship side you can do loans throughout the season as well, so if something happened to Mears we could in theory get a loan to cover if it was felt necessary.

But Ricketts can also cover right back if required.

Not particularly worried about that area personally.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:05 pm

Jez wrote: What about ricketts?
In emergencies, yes, but in such a scenario we'd have a fledgling in at left back with no cover for him either.

Serious priority for me is a right back.
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Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:09 pm

Nah we need a center back and a defensive midfielder
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:22 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Jez wrote: What about ricketts?
In emergencies, yes, but in such a scenario we'd have a fledgling in at left back with no cover for him either.

Serious priority for me is a right back.
The other thing is, how is Riley meant to progress further without getting games? He's broken from the youth team to the ressies (now development squad!!!) to the first team squad. And not disgraced himself yet in the few times he's gotten on the pitch.

Surely getting some games is essential for him now. Otherwise we'll never know if we have a real gem on our hands or not?

Same goes for Vela. Not saying we play them at the expense of the teams' results, but they are at least worth trying before we bring in more experienced replacements above them? Otherwise we may as well abandon a youth policy and save a shed load of money on the academy?

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Post by Jez » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:25 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Jez wrote: What about ricketts?
In emergencies, yes, but in such a scenario we'd have a fledgling in at left back with no cover for him either.

Serious priority for me is a right back.
Alonso's inexperienced yeah, but hes 21 now, he may not have set the world on fire in the prem but surely he's good enough to play champ backup? and we do have cover for him, albeit very inexperienced cover in Adam Blakeman

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:33 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:
Jez wrote: What about ricketts?
In emergencies, yes, but in such a scenario we'd have a fledgling in at left back with no cover for him either.

Serious priority for me is a right back.
The other thing is, how is Riley meant to progress further without getting games? He's broken from the youth team to the ressies (now development squad!!!) to the first team squad. And not disgraced himself yet in the few times he's gotten on the pitch.

Surely getting some games is essential for him now. Otherwise we'll never know if we have a real gem on our hands or not?
Am sure he'll get plenty of opportunity over a 50+ odd game season, wouldn't you think? So seriously, if Mears is out (as could well be likely) you'd be happy for us to just go with Riley alone? Be-fecking-have!
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Post by Prufrock » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:36 pm

Where are we getting it is likely Mears will be out from? If that were the case, then I'd be with you, RB would be a priority, but he's been playing friendlies hasn't he?
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Re: Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:41 pm

Prufrock wrote:Where are we getting it is likely Mears will be out from? If that were the case, then I'd be with you, RB would be a priority, but he's been playing friendlies hasn't he?
Yeah thats kind of my point. We have Mears (who is as far as we know fully fit) and Riley.

Should Mears get injured then we could loan someone or shift Ricketts across.

I do get Bruce's point about a kid as backup, but as a championship side having a promising kid as backup in some positions is fairly standard isn't it? We're unlikely to be able to afford "senior pro" cover for every area? I'd be more worried if Riley hadn't been on the fringe last season.

To be honest I'm more worried about left back, as Ricketts is in no way a natural left back (certainly not his best position) and Alonso, well lets say divides opinion.........

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:42 pm

Prufrock wrote:Where are we getting it is likely Mears will be out from? If that were the case, then I'd be with you, RB would be a priority, but he's been playing friendlies hasn't he?
Oh I hope the guy's firing on all cylinders, Prufrock, please don't get me wrong, but he's just back from a broken leg and hasn't played for a year. That rings alarms for me. BWFCI reckons we're home and hosed in every department, I don't think we are, is all. At the very least - if Coyle is still looking to strengthen eith CB or CM then I'd feel a lot easier about it if he brings someone in that can also play RB if called upon so to do. We let Steinner go and haven't replaced him.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:48 pm

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Prufrock wrote:Where are we getting it is likely Mears will be out from? If that were the case, then I'd be with you, RB would be a priority, but he's been playing friendlies hasn't he?
Oh I hope the guy's firing on all cylinders, Prufrock, please don't get me wrong, but he's just back from a broken leg and hasn't played for a year. That rings alarms for me. BWFCI reckons we're home and hosed in every department, I don't think we are, is all. At the very least - if Coyle is still looking to strengthen eith CB or CM then I'd feel a lot easier about it if he brings someone in that can also play RB if called upon so to do. We let Steinner go and haven't replaced him.
Not quite.....I don't think we're bad. With the caveat that we can loan one or two as the season goes on depending upon where we get injuries.

Also think we need a proper hard man in midfield.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:50 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: Not quite.....I don't think we're bad. With the caveat that we can loan one or two as the season goes on depending upon where we get injuries.

Also think we need a proper hard man in midfield.
Understand that, but a 'panic loan'? Hmmmmmm.
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