Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok

[Lord Kangana]

According to thebish (et all) he looked a bit of a fattie at Portsmouth. Now obviously that is entirely Coyle's fault, because he's evidently also a feeder aswell as all the other stuff. So maybe its best for all if he leaves, otherwise Coyle is just going to keep shoving Big Macs down his neck until he's big enough to post pictures of?

[Wandering Willy]

Best player we have with the ball at feet.

Unfortunately, until Coyle realises that lumping it up to KD doesn't work then there might not be room for him.

[Ianmooreslovechild]

Best player we have with the ball at feet.

Unfortunately, until Coyle realises that lumping it up to KD doesn't work then there might not be room for him.

Best player we have running with the ball but that is the only thing he does well and there were plenty games last season when he didnt manage to run with the ball at all.His all round game isnt good enough to play in a centre pair.

[bobo the clown]

According to thebish (et all) he looked a bit of a fattie at Portsmouth. Now obviously that is entirely Coyle's fault, because he's evidently also a feeder aswell as all the other stuff. So maybe its best for all if he leaves, otherwise Coyle is just going to keep shoving Big Macs down his neck until he's big enough to post pictures of?

Would fit with Ream being force-fed Nando's chicken last year !!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Who is joe ledley?!

Welsh midfielder Cardiff sold to Celtic a bit back.

Its all GB these days DSB...less of the nationalism

Indeed, except that a recent Team GB programme accidentally called Joe Allen 'English', to uproar - including in The Sun, alongside a piece in which they mentioned Allen's midfield team-mate 'Nathan' Cleverley...

On Mavies, again, much sense talked, but this rings sharply true:

Best player we have with the ball at feet. Unfortunately, until Coyle realises that lumping it up to KD doesn't work then there might not be room for him.

Mavies is at his best in a five-man midfield, which will only ever be Coyle's fallback at best. Thing is, we don't actually *need* to sell, and I come back to the old who-replaces-him question. Remember to tailor your answers to a world in which Jay Rodriguez sells for £7m.

[Chrisfu]

again, much sense talked, but this rings sharply true:

Best player we have with the ball at feet. Unfortunately, until Coyle realises that lumping it up to KD doesn't work then there might not be room for him.

Mavies is at his best in a five-man midfield, which will only ever be Coyle's fallback at best.

1) Gets ball to feet.
2) Runs with ball.
3) Seeks out cluster of 3-4 opposing players.
4) Runs directly at them.
5a) Comes out at the other side with the ball.
5b) Comes out at the other side without the ball, usually taking a good few seconds to realise that he'd lost it, too.

5b was the more regular outcome of the two. When it came off, it looked fantastic and the pundits would jizz themselves. When it didn't he looked foolish, and it seems only the fans noticed it... probably a good thing too considering Swansea are coming in for him. I praised the lad for having a crack at running at players when nobody else in the team was, but on the flip-side it left us woefully exposed at times; especially considering both he and Eagles rarely busted a gut to get back and regain the ball.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

it left us woefully exposed at times

Mavies is at his best in a five-man midfield

[Chrisfu]

Mavies is at his best in a five-man midfield, which will only ever be Coyle's fallback at best.

[Lord Kangana]

According to thebish (et all) he looked a bit of a fattie at Portsmouth. Now obviously that is entirely Coyle's fault, because he's evidently also a feeder aswell as all the other stuff. So maybe its best for all if he leaves, otherwise Coyle is just going to keep shoving Big Macs down his neck until he's big enough to post pictures of?

Would fit with Ream being force-fed Nando's chicken last year !!

We're on to something here you know.

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

He might fit in very well at Swansea and I agree with you that we should make them pay a premium for him (if indeed we are to sell him, and given how tight Swansea are with money, thats no way certain yet) but he is in absolutely no way worth 5M to us. Anything above that value, given that some will go to Wolves, would be an absolute steal for us IMO.

How does one measure how much he's worth to us?

Andrews starts? We're likely to play 4-4-2? We're looking for another defensive midfield player (and were prepared to pay Sanchez a lot of money to come before his demands became ridiculous)? Holden may well come back and Coyle has already mentioned him as being suitable for the holding role he has identified.

On that basis, will Mark Davies even get in our team every game? I suspect not. And young Vela is meant to potentially be a better more all round player.

so 5M for a bit part championship player who doesn't fit into the system our manager is bound to play?

this. if Vela proves to be better its win-win. but Davies has always flattered to deceive so even if Vela doesn't immediately fill his boots we still wnt miss much

[BWFC_Insane]

According to thebish (et all) he looked a bit of a fattie at Portsmouth. Now obviously that is entirely Coyle's fault, because he's evidently also a feeder aswell as all the other stuff. So maybe its best for all if he leaves, otherwise Coyle is just going to keep shoving Big Macs down his neck until he's big enough to post pictures of?

You were saying people should give Coyle credit for some of the squad looking "less fat". If that is the case then shouldn't he also get the blame for those members of the squad who look "unfit"?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Mavies is at his best in a five-man midfield, which will only ever be Coyle's fallback at best.

Thing is, we don't actually *need* to sell, and I come back to the old who-replaces-him question. Remember to tailor your answers to a world in which Jay Rodriguez sells for £7m.

I note you're yet to quote the latter query, let alone answer it. But then, it's not an easy one.

[Lord Kangana]

According to thebish (et all) he looked a bit of a fattie at Portsmouth. Now obviously that is entirely Coyle's fault, because he's evidently also a feeder aswell as all the other stuff. So maybe its best for all if he leaves, otherwise Coyle is just going to keep shoving Big Macs down his neck until he's big enough to post pictures of?

You were saying people should give Coyle credit for some of the squad looking "less fat". If that is the case then shouldn't he also get the blame for those members of the squad who look "unfit"?

I've told you, Coyle is a feeder. Its got nowt to do with us demanding more off highly paid footballers who should be more professional like those athletes there. Or something, I forget the precise details of the rant.

[BWFC_Insane]

According to thebish (et all) he looked a bit of a fattie at Portsmouth. Now obviously that is entirely Coyle's fault, because he's evidently also a feeder aswell as all the other stuff. So maybe its best for all if he leaves, otherwise Coyle is just going to keep shoving Big Macs down his neck until he's big enough to post pictures of?

You were saying people should give Coyle credit for some of the squad looking "less fat". If that is the case then shouldn't he also get the blame for those members of the squad who look "unfit"?

I've told you, Coyle is a feeder. Its got nowt to do with us demanding more off highly paid footballers who should be more professional like those athletes there. Or something, I forget the precise details of the rant.

Which is fine, but you can't have it both ways. You can't expect people to give Coyle credit for those players that have looked after themselves over the summer, if its all about individual responsibility.......

[Lord Kangana]

What does Nixon have to say about it?

[boltonboris]

What does Nixon have to say about it?

God knows.. He's blocking people, like Coyle's blocking arteries

[m_taylor]

I think Mavis will be brilliant with Stuart Holden in the middle of the park. Between the two of them they would run a game. wouldn't sell unless we are desperate for the money.

[wanderers_on_tour]

Anyone have a idea what wages he's on? I imagine its a fair whack higher then the bit part role many think he plays.

[thebish]

can someone remind me what the projected return date of Stuey Holden is??? is it this season?

[Chrisfu]

Mavies is at his best in a five-man midfield, which will only ever be Coyle's fallback at best.

Thing is, we don't actually *need* to sell, and I come back to the old who-replaces-him question. Remember to tailor your answers to a world in which Jay Rodriguez sells for £7m.

I note you're yet to quote the latter query, let alone answer it. But then, it's not an easy one.

A cheapish option would be James Henry from Millwall. A year left on his current deal, 23 years old, and comfortable on the wing or in the middle. He'd probably cost a £1-2m.

The lad that won Birmingham's player of the year last season too looked pretty nifty, but I think he's a good 3-4 years older, would cost more and doesn't play in the centre.