Bolton v Forest thread

[Ianmooreslovechild]

Afobe's link-up play has been inferior to Sordell's. Why take Marv off when he's just got off the mark? You a rarely see that happen. The really worrying thing is Forest have actually looked more likely to win this.

Mark Davies is a diminutive attacking player being told to play a deep role in a flat midfield four. It clearly doesn't work but Coyle keeps expecting different results each time. Andrews has been equally poor unfortunately.

Andrews did a reasonable job,he's nowt special just a workaday midfielder.At least you knew he was on the park.

Moved the ball well in a couple of spells.Really dont see why Mears and Mavis are in the team and Mills Knight is way too slow as a pairing.

On the upside Eagles,CYL had good games and Sodall got off the mark

Coyle will continue to pick this sort of line up we'll be involved in high scoring games we wont quite make the playoffs.Will gety overrun away and will throw points away at home

[Mixu Fattypieman]

Great quality stream. Thanks whoever posted.

Same old stuff. You can drive a train through the centre of our midfield, have done for 18 months. Forest's second goal is a perfect example of why we've been shit for that long. Centre backs don't deal with routine punt, and get no assitance from midfield, who are 5 yards behind the runner. Cheap, cheap goal. Basic, basic stuff.

I 'worry' that we have enough quality attacking wise in our squad to pick up just enough points to keep Coyle and his taftical ineptitude in a job for the next few months. But unless he starts learning lessons fast - which he ain't shown any sign of over the last 2 years - we won't acheive his stated minimum objective: promotion.

[norm the jedi]

I thought that were alright.. ....
I'll await the abuse..
I think we need a holding midfielder who can organise and get a foot in...
Most of what Knight and Mills will get called for on here comes from the midfield runner being the man over.. I'd like five in midfield or at least three on their three and full backs pressing, but it won't happen.. Forest are decent and quite tidy..

The defence was not too bad.. Tyrone Mears x certificate, seems unecessary, Ricketts was the Ricketts I remember..
Mills and Knight were pretty solid..
poor to lose the lead but I would have had the draw off you before we started..
Ref was feck awful... the SKD [who was again decent despite apparently not having any legs] yellow was an absolute joke..

3 down 43 to go - lets not get too excited..

[Tals-biggest-fan]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a play who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

[wanderers_on_tour]

Feel more positive from that second half performance than I did from seeing the Derby game...

The championship is always going to throw up these banana skins. Need a bigger midfield prescence and the back four to sharpen up and get a bit of chemistry but after suffering that first 35 im relieved if anything.

[Lord Kangana]

Don't worry Norm, you're not alone. We've got enough for this division, its just small simple changes that need to be made. I think the (reasonable) argument to your points will come that is Coyle going to make them?

[thebish]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a player who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

that's a bit extreme...

[Tals-biggest-fan]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a player who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

that's a bit extreme...

well done got me before I realised

[ChrisC]

Owen seems to be furious in this interview

[wanderers_on_tour]

David Ngog is just warming up to become our saviour.

[DJBlu]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a player who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

that's a bit extreme...

Got caught in possession a little too much however he can tackle which is a plus.

[50sQuiff]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a player who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

You really think he had any influence on the game? He was as culpable as Mavies for our defensive midfield frailties. Way off the pace, Forest just played through him all game. But he has this "workmanlike" profile I suppose that means he'd never get the same criticism as Davies.

Though as I said earlier about Sordell, I don't believe Andrews is a bad player. Coyle is doing a great job of turning decent players into bad ones. Whatever it takes, he seems to find a way.

[norm the jedi]

Don't worry Norm, you're not alone. We've got enough for this division, its just small simple changes that need to be made. I think the (reasonable) argument to your points will come that is Coyle going to make them?

think you're probably right I'd like to think he may learn the odd lesson, but he's just on bemoaning how we should of had 5 so the system worked, ain't broke don't fix it.. stylie... which don't bode well...
I'm feel meself sliding off that fence....

[TANGODANCER]

There were times tonight when I wondered why we'd ever got rid of Steinsson. Sordell probably had the miss of the match. When do we play the "Don't wait for the ball to bounce" record; Knight played well tonight but nearly gave it away for us. Forest didn't wait for anything and we could easily have lost. Utterly pedestrian at times in build ups and still nobody getting in spaces often enough. Some good, some bad and some utterly ugly. We could have had six, but so could they. Other teams with quick strikers will kill us if we keep giving them half of Lancashire to play in. Mills..????Defence coach needed urgently.

[Ianmooreslovechild]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a player who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

You really think he had any influence on the game? He was as culpable as Mavies for our defensive midfield frailties. Way off the pace, Forest just played through him all game. But he has this "workmanlike" profile I suppose that means he'd never get the same criticism as Davies.

Though as I said earlier about Sordell, I don't believe Andrews is a bad player. Coyle is doing a great job of turning decent players into bad ones. Whatever it takes, he seems to find a way.

Im with Tal on this. At least you were aware that Andrews was on the pitch and he was getting involved. Mavis has more talent sure but lord Lucan has a more salient presence in a midfield pair

[ChrisC]

If Mavies doesn't pick up in the next few games i would prefer Eagles to be moved more central and petrov to come in. The last 2 games with Eagles scoring he had drifted more central.. he seems more comfortable centrally.

[norm the jedi]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a player who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

You really think he had any influence on the game? He was as culpable as Mavies for our defensive midfield frailties. Way off the pace, Forest just played through him all game. But he has this "workmanlike" profile I suppose that means he'd never get the same criticism as Davies.

Though as I said earlier about Sordell, I don't believe Andrews is a bad player. Coyle is doing a great job of turning decent players into bad ones. Whatever it takes, he seems to find a way.

Andrews was ok - unfussy shuffling.. no point slagging him or Mavies for the over run.. they played three in a revolving centre mid, and Reid was always spre to link with Cox... unless you're a world class 2 you'll always get done by a three.. in the second half we pressed their fullbacks back and over manned to pin their fullbacks and it was better.. but still got away occasionally [equaliser for instance.]
Not the midfielders to blame if you and your mate are facing three it's stick or twist every time... you need the extra body or you'll get done..
in possession the mid field were pretty tidy.. [CYL was a bit flatter to deceive for me]

[Tals-biggest-fan]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a player who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

You really think he had any influence on the game? He was as culpable as Mavies for our defensive midfield frailties. Way off the pace, Forest just played through him all game. But he has this "workmanlike" profile I suppose that means he'd never get the same criticism as Davies.

Though as I said earlier about Sordell, I don't believe Andrews is a bad player. Coyle is doing a great job of turning decent players into bad ones. Whatever it takes, he seems to find a way.

Im with Tal on this. At least you were aware that Andrews was on the pitch and he was getting involved. Mavis has more talent sure but lord Lucan has a more salient presence in a midfield pair

The only reason he was getting caught in possession was because of the lack of movement in front of him, if we played a 5 man midfield with a player of Mark Davies quality in between the midfield and attack looking for the space to receive the ball from our centre mids then we'll be sorted.

[Tucking Fypo]

Their first goal came because we never closed down the opposition. Just like the numerous goals we conceded of the same ilk last season. The second came from a longball that amazingly left Knight and Mills stranded versus three Forest players. Our defence never recieved any support and shielding, they played too high and the fullbacks were woeful.

On the flip side, everytime Forest lost the ball they had two banks of four close together. Not one of them giving any time to a Bolton player within 40 yards of goal.

Our defence cost us time and time again last season. Why can't Coyle see it?

[Lord Kangana]

on a positive I thought Keith Andrews was our best player today, he isn't your flash 50 yard passers but he's a player who'll break up the player and put himself about and give 100%

You really think he had any influence on the game? He was as culpable as Mavies for our defensive midfield frailties. Way off the pace, Forest just played through him all game. But he has this "workmanlike" profile I suppose that means he'd never get the same criticism as Davies.

Though as I said earlier about Sordell, I don't believe Andrews is a bad player. Coyle is doing a great job of turning decent players into bad ones. Whatever it takes, he seems to find a way.

Im with Tal on this. At least you were aware that Andrews was on the pitch and he was getting involved. Mavis has more talent sure but lord Lucan has a more salient presence in a midfield pair

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