Would we survive the premiership this year?

[newboy]

I don't think so watching teams like Everton, Swansea and even Wigan we're light years behind the way they move the ball and interchange play. Compared to our hoof it and hope strategy, our managers tactical cluelesness, his changing like for like strategy instead of mixing it up . I seriously believe we would be humiliated on a regular basis.I think we're going to find the Championship a tough and unforgiving place for the foreseeable future unless Coyle and his whole useless contingent of staff and deadwood players included go.

[TANGODANCER]

Hey, we're not quite Backstreet Rovers yet, we were in there for eleven years. We were at the bottom and of that league and got relegated but we were still giving good teams a game. We need to start building a decent team and playing football and get back up there again. If we don't believe we can do that, why bother?

[Peter Thompson]

No - not with Coyle and his stooges in charge.

However we do have a squad good enough to get promoted, unfortunately what we don't have is a manager capable of improving us or getting the best out of this group of players. I don't think the players actually believe in Coyle, and that's a worry. I know its been said constantly but he needs to get the team organised tactically, and at the same time he needs to improve the intensity, work rate, energy and overall fitness of the side - we need to start competing for 90 mins not just 10-15 mins.

Very little if anything has improved on the pitch under Coyle - we still play the same type of low intensity, hoofball football that we did when he joined. I'm quite sure that if we had a tactically aware switched on manager with 1 or 2 decent coaches to help, they would get this team promoted - under Coyle though I doubt that we will even be top 6 this season.

We play the same predictable way, and make the same predictable mistakes week after week - but Coyle and his coaches don't appear to be able to change / improve anything.

[scotty]

I think it would have been a lot easier to stay up than it will be to win promotion. Obviously the standard of the opposition is better in the premiership, but you only have to scrape together 38 points or so. To win promotion everything has to click continuously for 9 months. Theres very little margin for error. (and when you've got a manager who makes a lot of errors it makes it very hard)

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Yeah

We'd have an hour more on the ball...

[Harry Genshaw]

Who cares? On Friday I enjoyed a good game of end to end footy and at the moment I'm looking forward to a season of unpredictability. Perhaps its because it's my 1st season ticket for such a long while but I aint in no desperate hurry to get back to the Premier league just yet.

[the-Bowtun-Warrior]

Under Captain Clueless?

We'd have more chance of platting fog.

[Gail Platz]

We're barely surviving in the Championship, being cut open easily by average sides. So my answer is no, would we fecking bollocks survive.

[CrazyHorse]

Under Captain Clueless?

We'd have more chance of platting fog.

[Prufrock]

I'm not sure about the question; but, whenever anybody on here uses the words 'clueless', 'stooges', and in particular fecking 'dross' (is that a real word, real people use, seriously?) I start to not listen/read/whatever. Dross. Get a real word.

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

and whats with this "Captain Clueless" bandwagon?
whoever came up with it first - fair do's- the rest of you try finding your own forms of expression.
likewise "Mavies"

[Little Green Man]

Dross. Get a real word.

It is a real word. It's been in the English language for centuries. Originally it was used to describe the scum derived from smelting metals. For over 500 years it has come to mean rubbish in general. At bit like the word bobbins has.

[thebish]

Dross. Get a real word.

It is a real word. It's been in the English language for centuries. Originally it was used to describe the scum derived from smelting metals. For over 500 years it has come to mean rubbish in general. At bit like the word bobbins has.

indeed - getting rid of the dross from molten aluminium used to be an hourly task for me when I worked at the foundry many years ago...

The KJV Bible was finished in 1611 - and contains the word "dross" many times..

e.g.

"Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer." (Prov. 25:4)

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

likewise "Mavies"

Shorthand to distinguish him from the captain

Hardly worth getting upset over

[thebish]

Dratley...

[Armchair Wanderer]

If we were still in the best league in the world we'd have NRC instead of Andrews. Maybe we'd have got a loanee from Chelsea? What else would be different?

[Adam Wilson]

No fecking way, not with that clown in charge. On the other hand, with a decent manager and Holden and Mavies in the team we could actually thrive and go for a top ten place (ok, maybe with a few clever signings/loans)... so much of our problems are down to Owen Coyle...

[BWFC_Insane]

If we were still in the best league in the world we'd have NRC instead of Andrews. Maybe we'd have got a loanee from Chelsea? What else would be different?

Coyle said at the fans forum that if we'd been able to stay up we'd have been 'in a place to spend some serious money on some very good young players'.

The mind boggles.......

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

That sent a shiver down my spine LK!

[BWFC_Insane]

That sent a shiver down my spine LK!

Ermmmm unfortunate slip there I think......