If Coyle gets the sack

[SmokinFrazier]

Going for a manager like Phil Brown would be accepting mediocrity. We want change and Brown is no better than Coyle. If you want to sit in the Championship for the next 10 years and endure the same poor form we have right now, that's fine. If you want us to go back to the Premier League, we need someone far better than Coyle. Brown isn't "far better", and in fact, I don't even think he's a better manager at all.

Go for someone young or someone experienced but not an experienced failure. Someone like Curbishly.

[bedwetter2]

I really didn't want it to end like this

I'd still have Coyle over Brown

Wonder if Neil McDonald and Sammy Lee could work together

Coyle was found out 12 months or more ago by some of us but the club gave him far too much time. It's sad for him I'm sure but it has been perverse to allow him to struggle and founder for so long. That has done no one any favours.

I reckon it is inevitable that Sammy Lee will be head coach/assistant manager under a new regime.

[BWFC_Insane]

Going for a manager like Phil Brown would be accepting mediocrity. We want change and Brown is no better than Coyle. If you want to sit in the Championship for the next 10 years and endure the same poor form we have right now, that's fine. If you want us to go back to the Premier League, we need someone far better than Coyle. Brown isn't "far better", and in fact, I don't even think he's a better manager at all.

Go for someone young or someone experienced but not an experienced failure. Someone like Curbishly.

There is a big problem here. Coyle when we brought him in was "someone young" with no failure on his track record.

He is now, one heck of a big failure.

Managers will ALL have plusses and minuses on their CV, unless they are Mourinho or Alex Ferguson....

I'm not sure we will have a great pick. We all WANT a manager who can be here in 5 years and have progressed the club back up to the premiership and kept us there and be developing the club all around.

Its not necessarily the case that said person is out there, or available or interested.

I will settle for someone who can organise us, sort out any issues behind the scenes, bring the group together and start to make this squad look half as good as it should in this division.

If that someone is Phil Brown then fine. He'd not be top of my list, or even halfway down it, but too many people are just looking at a managers promotion and relegation record and making a call.

Its nonsense. We need the right sort of fit, that will get the club moving forwards again. For me, someone like Mick McCarthy could do that. He's no visionary or genius, but he is straightforward, tough, and pragmatic and has a real presence. It may be a short term fix, but I fear thanks to dithering last season, that is where we are at.

[Wandering Willy]

Is that the Mick McCarthy that kept a team permanently below us last season?

[thebish]

Is that the Mick McCarthy that kept a team permanently below us last season?

nahhh - it's the new gleaming notourmanagersomustbeace Mick McCarthy...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Going for a manager like Phil Brown would be accepting mediocrity. We want change and Brown is no better than Coyle. If you want to sit in the Championship for the next 10 years and endure the same poor form we have right now, that's fine. If you want us to go back to the Premier League, we need someone far better than Coyle. Brown isn't "far better", and in fact, I don't even think he's a better manager at all.

Go for someone young or someone experienced but not an experienced failure. Someone like Curbishly.

Is that Alan Curbishley? a) he's not young and b) he might be 'experienced' but the last time he managed a club was four years ago, which kind of negates that experience surely?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Is that the Mick McCarthy that kept a team permanently below us last season?

nahhh - it's the new gleaming notourmanagersomustbeace Mick McCarthy...

Mick is a spectacular human being. His physiognomy is ace. He speaks his mind; his mind may be restive but he speaks it anyway. He too wears shorts and football tops on the touchline. We can't go wrong.

[BWFC_Insane]

Is that the Mick McCarthy that kept a team permanently below us last season?

nahhh - it's the new gleaming notourmanagersomustbeace Mick McCarthy...

McCarthy has been promoted to the premiership at Wolves and Sunderland. He kept Wolves up, the season following promotion.

Right now that sort of performance would do us, as we sit 15th in the championship!

Nobody proclaimed him as any sort of saviour.

But we've got shit all now, so we might as well try something else.

Be very happy if that is some superstar manager.

But we need someone with experience IMO not some hotshot kid, picked cos he's never failed cos he's not had the chance to yet.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Sordell for manager !

[Wandering Willy]

But we need someone with experience IMO not some hotshot kid, picked cos he's never failed cos he's not had the chance to yet.

Owen Coyle it is then.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

I'm glad we had this chat now.

[BWFC_Insane]

But we need someone with experience IMO not some hotshot kid, picked cos he's never failed cos he's not had the chance to yet.

Owen Coyle it is then.

Owen Coyle was the hotshot kid who was picked cos he'd not really stayed anywhere long enough to cock it up.

He's been given that chance here and obliged.

NEXT.......................

[CrazyHorse]

You know in all seriousness, the only name that ticks all the boxes is Gary Megson.

[BWFC_Insane]

If people want to go on "record" and finances restrict us to out of work managers then Curbishley surely has the best record of those, in terms of experience in England at least?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

please refer back to my earlier post!

[Wandering Willy]

But we need someone with experience IMO not some hotshot kid, picked cos he's never failed cos he's not had the chance to yet.

Owen Coyle it is then.

Owen Coyle was the hotshot kid who was picked cos he'd not really stayed anywhere long enough to cock it up.

He's been given that chance here and obliged.

NEXT.......................

Sorry- I thought you were advocating picking someone with experience who has failed because he's had the chance too. Some one like Mick McCarthy say, or perhaps OC.

[Wandering Willy]

You know in all seriousness, the only name that ticks all the boxes is Gary Megson.

Some self banulation needed here.

[thebish]

You know in all seriousness, the only name that ticks all the boxes is Gary Megson.

ahh - but I think he has earned the right to manage a top, top team... I suspect we are now beneath him...

[ohjimmyjimmy]

:negative:

Megson in !

[BWFC_Insane]

But we need someone with experience IMO not some hotshot kid, picked cos he's never failed cos he's not had the chance to yet.

Owen Coyle it is then.

Owen Coyle was the hotshot kid who was picked cos he'd not really stayed anywhere long enough to cock it up.

He's been given that chance here and obliged.

NEXT.......................

Sorry- I thought you were advocating picking someone with experience who has failed because he's had the chance too. Some one like Mick McCarthy say, or perhaps OC.

McCarthy is more experienced than Owen Coyle. He's been to a world cup as a manager.

And has promoted both Sunderland and Wolves to the premiership.