If Coyle gets the sack
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just be thankful there ARE 5 teams below us!!Worthy4England wrote:Well we sit proudly mid-table having played 5 teams below us, picking up less than 2 points per game off them, and having picked up 1 point at home, from the two teams we've played above us.boltonboris wrote:In hindsight, aye.. Beforehand, I'd have been happy with a point.
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There's more than that. I'm sick if all this knee-jerking from folk like you. Tell it how it is.thebish wrote:just be thankful there ARE 5 teams below us!!Worthy4England wrote:Well we sit proudly mid-table having played 5 teams below us, picking up less than 2 points per game off them, and having picked up 1 point at home, from the two teams we've played above us.boltonboris wrote:In hindsight, aye.. Beforehand, I'd have been happy with a point.
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bloody rose-tinter - get your head out of the sand!Worthy4England wrote:There's more than that. I'm sick if all this knee-jerking from folk like you. Tell it how it is.thebish wrote:just be thankful there ARE 5 teams below us!!Worthy4England wrote:Well we sit proudly mid-table having played 5 teams below us, picking up less than 2 points per game off them, and having picked up 1 point at home, from the two teams we've played above us.boltonboris wrote:In hindsight, aye.. Beforehand, I'd have been happy with a point.
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And a Bolton lad too. He worked wonders with Rochdale, got them promoted and in the top 10 of League 1 before joining Barnsley.jmjhb wrote:Keith Hill's Barnsley team are smashing Birmingham 5-0 right now. He would be my choice.
Personally speaking I would rather we took a chance with an upcoming manager rather than an average experienced one. Preferably a Lambert or Rodgers rather than a Clough or Darren Ferguson.
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That's what Coyle was....
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It's true.. Regardless of what we think of him now, he was an up and coming manager with a good reputation. I remember thinking at the time, that we were lucky nobody else was looking for a gaffer in the Prem at the time.David Lee's Hair wrote:That's what Coyle was....
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Ah but he wouldn't have left Burnley for anyone else. Not even Celtic.boltonboris wrote:It's true.. Regardless of what we think of him now, he was an up and coming manager with a good reputation. I remember thinking at the time, that we were lucky nobody else was looking for a gaffer in the Prem at the time.David Lee's Hair wrote:That's what Coyle was....
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Yeah, and its why, I don't buy the "pick someone unproven cos they won't have failed yet" argument.boltonboris wrote:It's true.. Regardless of what we think of him now, he was an up and coming manager with a good reputation. I remember thinking at the time, that we were lucky nobody else was looking for a gaffer in the Prem at the time.David Lee's Hair wrote:That's what Coyle was....
Sure it can be that you pick brilliantly, but a lot of those managers out there are unproven for a reason........
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Because they're young?
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One unproven person who comes across well is Steve Round. He's worked for England, Middlesborough, Newcastle under Big Sam and now he's Moyes' assistant at Everton. I wouldn't mind a punt on him at all.
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I won and retained the European cup with Bolton on FM 2009 or FM10 I forget which, but its an ITK FACT.
I will be delighted to take over as manager but we'll need to play our games at the Hunts Post Community Stadium.
I will be delighted to take over as manager but we'll need to play our games at the Hunts Post Community Stadium.
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That makes him better than the pre Bolton managing Sammy Lee in what way?SmokinFrazier wrote:One unproven person who comes across well is Steve Round. He's worked for England, Middlesborough, Newcastle under Big Sam and now he's Moyes' assistant at Everton. I wouldn't mind a punt on him at all.
I prefer to have some confidence in my gambles and that one looks like a real hope for the best job
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It doesn't.CAPSLOCK wrote:That makes him better than the pre Bolton managing Sammy Lee in what way?SmokinFrazier wrote:One unproven person who comes across well is Steve Round. He's worked for England, Middlesborough, Newcastle under Big Sam and now he's Moyes' assistant at Everton. I wouldn't mind a punt on him at all.
I prefer to have some confidence in my gambles and that one looks like a real hope for the best job
The problem is, most clubs are incapable of attracting a quality manager and I include us in that. We can't hire a proven manager, so whoever we get, it's a gamble.
Coyle has been a failure in most peoples eyes yet he was chosen in the same way Allardyce was. Some might want experience but Megson had experience and was a failure. Sammy Lee was a failure for us by look at West Brom and you can see that working.
The point is, there is no sure way we can get a good replacement. Every possible candidate holds a risk and, with the case of a young assistant manager like Round, the higher the risk may well be the bigger the potential reward.
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Hows about Alan Stubbs for manager - he doing wonders at Everton as defensive coach
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You can all relax. He won't get sacked. With the inclusion of Warnock, some reults and, hopefully, the return of Stuart Holden, we'll be good enough to get back up. OC will then be hailed as the man who got us there. Whether he can keep us there is another matter entirely, but that's for "The Wanderers, the Return" thread.
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Yeah - watch this fecking space!nelson66 wrote:Hows about Alan Stubbs for manager - he doing wonders at Everton as defensive coach
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I'm starting to think the same. I think we're coming good at last.TANGODANCER wrote:You can all relax. He won't get sacked. With the inclusion of Warnock, some reults and, hopefully, the return of Stuart Holden, we'll be good enough to get back up. OC will then be hailed as the man who got us there. Whether he can keep us there is another matter entirely, but that's for "The Wanderers, the Return" thread.
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I have hope and want him to do well with us, I think that it is too early to tell though.SmokinFrazier wrote:I'm starting to think the same. I think we're coming good at last.TANGODANCER wrote:You can all relax. He won't get sacked. With the inclusion of Warnock, some reults and, hopefully, the return of Stuart Holden, we'll be good enough to get back up. OC will then be hailed as the man who got us there. Whether he can keep us there is another matter entirely, but that's for "The Wanderers, the Return" thread.
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jaffka wrote:I have hope and want him to do well with us, I think that it is too early to tell though.SmokinFrazier wrote:I'm starting to think the same. I think we're coming good at last.TANGODANCER wrote:You can all relax. He won't get sacked. With the inclusion of Warnock, some reults and, hopefully, the return of Stuart Holden, we'll be good enough to get back up. OC will then be hailed as the man who got us there. Whether he can keep us there is another matter entirely, but that's for "The Wanderers, the Return" thread.
I love the optimism! Even though Coyle is totally unconvincing I still would love to see him succeed. I'm not sure a win at wednesday and a dodgy win v watford means the sky is suddenly blue. Warnock and Spearing should help as will the return of Holden hopefully and maybe ,just maybe he has stumbled onto a formation that could work so long as he doesnt decide to change it. Certainly with a solid formation the squad should be good enough. It'll take at least ten games of consistency with evidence of motivated players playing a system that works before I start to believe in OC again. Even then i will be pleasantly amazed if he is able to get the team up and keep it up. Live in hope rather than expectation
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Oh, we're back at the hope point of the circle! We're rubbish and can't buy a point - he stumbles upon a side that wins a game - we're putting a run together here, we might be all right, hopeful - what the bastard feck team is that? No, he hasn't learnt, we're rubbish again and can't buy a point.
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