Bolton - Leeds

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I've got that effing song stuck in my head now... "We've got five years, that's all we've got. Five years, it isn't a lot. Five years..."

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

We also need to accept that it took Five years to get here and it may take more than a fortnight to sort it out..

Completely accept that as long as something is being done to address my points. Starting with some proper coaches would go a long way to improving things.

As for point 4. a) at least you can buy the damn stuff. b) even if I could buy it here, it'd be 3 times the price!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

We also need to accept that it took Five years to get here and it may take more than a fortnight to sort it out..

Completely accept that as long as something is being done to address my points. Starting with some proper coaches would go a long way to improving things.

As for point 4. a) at least you can buy the damn stuff. b) even if I could buy it here, it'd be 3 times the price!

And 4c) wouldn't they be chopping bits off you?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

And 4c) wouldn't they be chopping bits off you?

Nah. That'd be the Magic Kingdom next door.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And 4c) wouldn't they be chopping bits off you?

Nah. That'd be the Magic Kingdom next door.

Ah. Wrong Arabs

[BWFC_Insane]

We also need to accept that it took Five years to get here and it may take more than a fortnight to sort it out..

A fortnight? Coyle's had nearly 3 years.......

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

And 4c) wouldn't they be chopping bits off you?

Nah. That'd be the Magic Kingdom next door.

Ah. Wrong Arabs

A mortgage and a license is all you need here

[BL3]

but I'm bored already....

I'm not surprised. You're on here all day, every day, endlessly banging on about how everything is Coyle's fault. It comes to something when you're awarding the opposition goals when they hit the woodwork, whilst simultaneously ignoring similar efforts from our side, in order to 'prove' that we didn't deserve a draw in a game that even the opposition supporters acknowledged that we largely dominated.

[BL3]

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[truewhite15]

but I'm bored already....

I'm not surprised. You're on here all day, every day, endlessly banging on about how everything is Coyle's fault. It comes to something when you're awarding the opposition goals when they hit the woodwork, whilst simultaneously ignoring similar efforts from our side, in order to 'prove' that we didn't deserve a draw in a game that even the opposition supporters acknowledged that we largely dominated.

But the vast majority of it IS Coyle's fault. Alright, the players aren't performing brilliantly, but it's up to the manager to get them playing better or to drop them, and Coyle's done neither. And if we look at the games through negative eyes, it's because the past 18 months of pretty much uninterrupted dross served up under Coyle has done that to us.

[BWFC_Insane]

but I'm bored already....

I'm not surprised. You're on here all day, every day, endlessly banging on about how everything is Coyle's fault. It comes to something when you're awarding the opposition goals when they hit the woodwork, whilst simultaneously ignoring similar efforts from our side, in order to 'prove' that we didn't deserve a draw in a game that even the opposition supporters acknowledged that we largely dominated.

Not surprised you've spectacularly missed the point.

Anyhow, for the 6th time, I'll ask you, at what point would YOU say, enough is enough, we have to change manager, or do you think everytime a manager has been sacked from any club, it is the wrong decision?

[BL3]

But the vast majority of it IS Coyle's fault. Alright, the players aren't performing brilliantly, but it's up to the manager to get them playing better or to drop them, and Coyle's done neither. And if we look at the games through negative eyes, it's because the past 18 months of pretty much uninterrupted dross served up under Coyle has done that to us.

So it's his fault that he inherited a team of players who were either reaching the end of their careers, or whose contracts were about to expire? His fault that the owner has decided that the wage bill needed to be slashed by 50% and that those contracts wouldn't be renewed? His fault that Sturridge and Wilshere did so well under his management that Arsenal and Chelsea wanted them in their teams rather than extending their loans? His fault that we've been without CYL and Holden for the whole of last season? Perhaps that's why we haven't faired as well in the last 18 months than we did in his first 18 months in charge. To say that he's not prepared to drop players who aren't performing is pure bullshit. In fact one of the criticisms of Coyle has been that he chops and changes too much. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't with some folk.

[boltonboris]

The wage bill was slashed because he got us relegated.

He replaced the players that left with far inferior personell.

He has CYL now, doesn't he? What's he upto?, because he sure as f*ck ain't playing!

[boltonboris]

And he didn't slash it that well, because he's got a lad sat on the bench every week, who's earning over a Million Pounds a year. (that was a contract he renewed himself!)

[Whookam]

So it's his fault that he inherited a team of players who were either reaching the end of their careers, or whose contracts were about to expire?

Who?

His fault that the owner has decided that the wage bill needed to be slashed by 50% and that those contracts wouldn't be renewed?

Upon relegation.

His fault that Sturridge and Wilshere did so well under his management that Arsenal and Chelsea wanted them in their teams rather than extending their loans?

Sturridge and Wilshere were never going to get a second loan with us, they were too highly thought of.

His fault that we've been without CYL and Holden for the whole of last season?

Lee was replaced by Eagles who performed to the same level like it or not. He's had three transfer windows to find a suitable replacement for Holden.

Perhaps that's why we haven't faired as well in the last 18 months than we did in his first 18 months in charge.

As well as? Have you seen where we are? Please stop with the feeble excuses.

[BL3]

The wage bill was slashed because he got us relegated.

No it wasn't. It's common knowledge that the club was committed to reducing overheads while we were in the Premier League. The club wouldn't extend the contracts of Matt Taylor and Elmander as a result.

[truewhite15]

But the vast majority of it IS Coyle's fault. Alright, the players aren't performing brilliantly, but it's up to the manager to get them playing better or to drop them, and Coyle's done neither. And if we look at the games through negative eyes, it's because the past 18 months of pretty much uninterrupted dross served up under Coyle has done that to us.

So it's his fault that he inherited a team of players who were either reaching the end of their careers, or whose contracts were about to expire? His fault that the owner has decided that the wage bill needed to be slashed by 50% and that those contracts wouldn't be renewed? His fault that Sturridge and Wilshere did so well under his management that Arsenal and Chelsea wanted them in their teams rather than extending their loans? His fault that we've been without CYL and Holden for the whole of last season? Perhaps that's why we haven't faired as well in the last 18 months than we did in his first 18 months in charge. To say that he's not prepared to drop players who aren't performing is pure bullshit. In fact one of the criticisms of Coyle has been that he chops and changes too much. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't with some folk.

So you put the entire relegation season down to the absence of Stuart Holden and Chung-Yong Lee. Right.

I don't think I need to address idiotic naivety like that.

[Whookam]

The wage bill was slashed because he got us relegated.

No it wasn't. It's common knowledge that the club was committed to reducing overheads while we were in the Premier League. The club wouldn't extend the contracts of Matt Taylor and Elmander as a result.

Elmander didn't want to stay! We ended up wazzing £4 million on Ngog.

You're making stuff up, there's no way we were going to slash the wage budget 50% while in the Premier League.

[BWFC_Insane]

The wage bill was slashed because he got us relegated.

No it wasn't. It's common knowledge that the club was committed to reducing overheads while we were in the Premier League. The club wouldn't extend the contracts of Matt Taylor and Elmander as a result.

At the fans forum, Owen Coyle said it was HIS Strategy and decision, not to give "older players big money contracts" as he felt that players in their late 20's then had no incentive to perform. He stated that clearly.

Not quite sure how that relates to re-signing, Petrov, Knight etc...

His overall budget may have been reduced, however, he made it very clear that his strategy would have been not to offer Elmander or Taylor deals on the money they had previously been on anyways......

[BL3]

But the vast majority of it IS Coyle's fault. Alright, the players aren't performing brilliantly, but it's up to the manager to get them playing better or to drop them, and Coyle's done neither. And if we look at the games through negative eyes, it's because the past 18 months of pretty much uninterrupted dross served up under Coyle has done that to us.

So it's his fault that he inherited a team of players who were either reaching the end of their careers, or whose contracts were about to expire? His fault that the owner has decided that the wage bill needed to be slashed by 50% and that those contracts wouldn't be renewed? His fault that Sturridge and Wilshere did so well under his management that Arsenal and Chelsea wanted them in their teams rather than extending their loans? His fault that we've been without CYL and Holden for the whole of last season? Perhaps that's why we haven't faired as well in the last 18 months than we did in his first 18 months in charge. To say that he's not prepared to drop players who aren't performing is pure bullshit. In fact one of the criticisms of Coyle has been that he chops and changes too much. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't with some folk.

So you put the entire relegation season down to the absence of Stuart Holden and Chung-Yong Lee. Right.

I don't think I need to address idiotic naivety like that.

Try reading it properly.