Today I'm neither Angry nor Happy about....

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Post by William the White » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:05 am

Solidarity with you Verbal.

Your GP may well come up with pharmaceuticals. And these may help.

You may find a counsellor hugely helpful also if you can discover the right one.

I was fortunate enough in two periods of crisis - one very recent - to get serious help from a hugely experienced counsellor recommended by a good friend with a life that often contains fun and laughter but always has an imminent depression tugging at it.

I wish you all the very, very best. You did well to post on here. And got a caring reaction.

The world isn't full of shits, after all.

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Post by Verbal » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:24 am

I'm pretty overwhelmed to be honest and not ashamed to admit I've had a few tears in my eyes reading this thread back. What I said (just at the amazement it actually came out), what others have said, and what people have sent to me via pm and other media.

All I can say is a huge thank you. I know this is just "THE INTERNET" but it really means a hell of a lot to me. Thank you all. So much.
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Post by Dujon » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:36 am

I'm no health expert, Verbal, but as others have said sometimes it's best to get things off your chest and stop just 'bottling it up inside'.

You are most definitely not alone in your agony of doubt. Where I live there has been a campaign called 'Are you OK?' which urges people to ask their friends that question if something seems to be amiss.
Verbal wrote: ... but as I was going a friend pulled me up and told me if i wanted a chat I could come to him...
That friend is the proverbial 'friend indeed'. If nothing else, he seems to have been the catalyst for your personal 'dam' breaking - which can't be a bad thing. All the best with the meeting, Verbal. I'll be thinking of you and wish you all the best.

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Post by Verbal » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:10 am

William the White wrote:Solidarity with you Verbal.

Your GP may well come up with pharmaceuticals. And these may help.

You may find a counsellor hugely helpful also if you can discover the right one.

I was fortunate enough in two periods of crisis - one very recent - to get serious help from a hugely experienced counsellor recommended by a good friend with a life that often contains fun and laughter but always has an imminent depression tugging at it.

I wish you all the very, very best. You did well to post on here. And got a caring reaction.

The world isn't full of shits, after all.
Thank you Will. I hope you are doing well.

With the emboldened point, I think that's where some of the problems lie...I mean, I barely trust anyone. I have friends, of course I have friends...but for me there is a very big distinction between friends and people I trust. There are very few people in that latter category. I'm not even sure if my parents are in there. I don't know how many are in there to be honest.

Anyway it's late and i should go to bed.
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Post by Gooner Girl » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:31 am

It's painful when people you trust let you down verbal, very painful, have had it happen to me recently. Yes, you need to be selective who you trust but I guess it sometimes comes down to the fact that if you want to really 'live' you have to risk it...

Good luck at the GP's today. X

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Post by Verbal » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:21 pm

GP was an odd one. Asked me to write down my life and go back next week.


I'm going back next week.
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Post by Gary the Enfield » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:27 pm

Verbal wrote:GP was an odd one. Asked me to write down my life and go back next week.


I'm going back next week.

I'm not sure but it sounds like you're being asked to do an emotional diary. Kind of like when you go to a dietician and they get you to do a food diary.

Makes sense I guess. Well done on taking that first step.

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Post by thebish » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:38 pm

Verbal wrote:GP was an odd one. Asked me to write down my life and go back next week.


I'm going back next week.

as i've said elsewhere... that's a pretty good response from a GP - and shows some understanding - it's a whole lot better than that other option which might have been to look you up and down - prescribe some anti-depressants and tell you to come back in 6months...

writing down your life (as you have already discovered to some extent) can be really cathartic - and can also help you to begin to discover some measure of a feeling of "control" over it... the more you tell your story - the more you analyse it and spot patterns and gain insight...

i'd be really encouraged by a G.P. doing that - kind of shows s/he knows what s/he is doing...

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Post by Gooner Girl » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:42 pm

much as i don't like to agree with thebish, he's right. Sounds promising Verbal, glad they are taking it seriously.

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Post by Bijou Bob » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:43 am

I now realise why the 5am train to London is known as the redeye express. Knackered. Bloody conferences :twisted:
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:03 am

Bijou Bob wrote:I now realise why the 5am train to London is known as the redeye express. Knackered. Bloody conferences :twisted:
Whiskey for dinner again, Bob? :P
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Post by Bijou Bob » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:28 am

Funnily enough, no Bruce and what's more, I forgot to bring the bottle with me
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:11 pm

I've had similar though not as extreme periods as you describe Verbal. Probably not entirely the same. I had a period in my life where I worked with a team of people quite intensely and I had weeks where I'd work from home, even though I really needed to be in the office, not because I disliked them, but because I literally could not bring myself to talk to them or be in the same room as them, and when I say them, its people in general, not those specific ones. I also have had spells of "unexplained sadness", can remember vividly driving down to Bristol for a meeting and literally listening to something on the radio one minute, feeling great, singing along, then suddenly for no reason whatsoever, felt like a wave just wash over me. And I literally had to stop on the hard shoulder and just sit there. Ended up turning round and going back home, once I'd composed myself. I was sad for like the next 2 days for no reason at all. And I knew there was no reason to be, but I almost felt like I was losing control.

I've found that its something I can now, just about control. I've almost found ways to self manage it. My GP at the time when it was worst was hopeless, and wasn't interested, as I was clearly of sound mind and not likely to top myself. However, it was something that at times, had a crippling effect on my life.

I'd not want to go anywhere that involved speaking to people, and I'm not a shy person particularly.

You are doing the right things. And sound like you have a far better GP than I had.

Have to confess when I read your account it did bring back some memories from my past, and the fact that in the middle of it, you can write it all down on here, makes you a better person than I was.

Best of luck....

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:31 pm

Start a blog.. Honestly. Don't be afraid of telling people bi-or tri- weekly about how you are. Talk about your hobbies, goals and achievements whilst your doing it.. People will follow it, your progree and may even feel like they have a connection with you. That'll filter through to yourself and it could help on a day to day basis.. When you're having an inevitable bad day, just type away
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Post by Verbal » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:44 pm

I've been thinking about that actually Boris. Might just start that later. Cheers.

Thanks too for your kind words bwfc_i. This week's been a relatively bad one but it seems to fade away as the day progresses.
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Post by Prufrock » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:43 pm

Neither angry nor happy, just bemused.

It's not uncommon for incidents of domestic violence even those occasioning ABH to result merely in a suspended sentence and community service.

Guy from Chorley posts a joke about April Jones of Facebook, and gets three months. This, apparently, is too light. Has the world gone mad, or is it me?! Why are judges and magistrates so terrified of the internet? Robin Hood man convicted for the most obviously-a-joke tweet imaginable. Those lads getting FOUR YEARS for a pissed joke about rioting in Northwich. Good. Grief.

I don't know what he wrote, but I'm struggling to think of anything he could have written which would be worse than getting tanked up and punching your partner in the face and then giving her (or him) a good kicking.
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Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:54 pm

And you wonder why the mods on here get a bit twitchy from time to time..!

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Post by Prufrock » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:56 pm

Well, it's certainly taken its toll on Keveh :D
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I know...that shock of white hair, is that since Dan joined??

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ohjimmyjimmy wrote:And you wonder why the mods on here get a bit twitchy from time to time..!
Not just the mods who are twitchy. The other day, prior to Coyle going, I'd composed a post something along the lines of let's have a riot if we don't win at Millwall. I stopped myself posting it as I had horrible thoughts of the rozzers a'coming knocking.

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