Now he's gone, who's next?

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Who would you like to see replacing Owen Coyle?

Alan Curbishley
15
12%
Paolo di Canio
9
7%
Billy Davies
9
7%
Keith Hill
5
4%
Roy Keane
1
1%
Mick McCarthy
12
9%
Gary Neville
10
8%
A rising lower-league boss (eg Micky Mellon)
11
9%
BWFC legend (eg Hierro/Gudni/McGinlay)
10
8%
Someone from abroad (eg Solskjaer)
35
27%
Someone from within (LSL/Jiminho/Didsy/Zico)
3
2%
AN Other
8
6%
 
Total votes: 128

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:31 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 10362.html

"Snubs"? Oh do f*ck off.

"Favourite"? Oh double f*ck off. Perhaps the true favourite Roy Evans will now throw his hat in the ring?

Next.
He was and still is the favourite in terms of betting odds which is what that article is referring to.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:39 pm

And where does it say that?
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:40 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:I haven't heard Billy Davies' name mentioned for a while. He has a great record at this level and is currently unemployed so shouldn't cost us too much :conf:
... & could start a fight in an empty room .... AND take casualties.

He makes Megson seem light hearted. Do we really neeed to go back there again ??
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by bw@bw » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:51 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:I haven't heard Billy Davies' name mentioned for a while. He has a great record at this level and is currently unemployed so shouldn't cost us too much :conf:

As I mentioned earlier - insiders at Forest (who had both in their time) reckon that he makes Roy Keane look like a pacifist.

And it does not matter whether you are on his side or the other - he can still pick a fight a day
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:58 pm

bw@bw wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:I haven't heard Billy Davies' name mentioned for a while. He has a great record at this level and is currently unemployed so shouldn't cost us too much :conf:

As I mentioned earlier - insiders at Forest (who had both in their time) reckon that he makes Roy Keane look like a pacifist.

And it does not matter whether you are on his side or the other - he can still pick a fight a day
Ah sorry missed that. In terms of record at this level he seemed pretty unblemished unlike many others mentioned. Agree though, I think we do have a good enough playing squad, so would hate to see half of em leave due to some loose cannon clearing em out.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:01 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 10362.html

"Snubs"? Oh do f*ck off.

"Favourite"? Oh double f*ck off. Perhaps the true favourite Roy Evans will now throw his hat in the ring?

Next.
The Independents take on Andrews alleged comment at the Irish camp is at odds with the Bolton news. According to BN Andrews said something along the lines of NOT wanting Roy Keane and much preferring McCarthy.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:18 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 10362.html

"Snubs"? Oh do f*ck off.

"Favourite"? Oh double f*ck off. Perhaps the true favourite Roy Evans will now throw his hat in the ring?

Next.
The Independents take on Andrews alleged comment at the Irish camp is at odds with the Bolton news. According to BN Andrews said something along the lines of NOT wanting Roy Keane and much preferring McCarthy.
Cant see why anyone would want to play for Keane. Billy Davis does have a good record but as mentioned by Bobo he's a cantankerous thorny bugger but then isnt old rednose down the road a bit like that.
If as seems to be implied Big Mick OGS and Curbishley are all out a very small pool is getting notably smaller.
We're all out of tried and trusted unless you count Davis in but I doubt Gatside would fancy the potential hassle.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:19 pm

Davis' record is no better than Coyle's, FYI.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:21 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote: According to BN Andrews said something along the lines of NOT wanting Roy Keane and much preferring McCarthy.
Of course, as Andrews wouldn't have got anywhere near the Ireland squad had Keane picked it. And he'd be just as found-out and answerable to Keane at our place.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:29 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Bit like Roy Evans was the popular choice with the best record, yet Allardyce was appointed.
Please - desist. Point me in the direction of a single person that wanted Roy Evans. Best record? By 1999 Liverpool had already brought Houllier in to 'work alongside' Evans because he wasn't up to it. Quite a few of us had already recognised what Allardyce had done at Blackpool and was doing with Notts County. I felt the same about Allardyce's appointment as I did about Rioch's.
Rioch who came to us on the back of disastrous spell at Millwall?

You were happy we appointed him?


And Allardyce?

My memory is of Roy Evans being the favourite - I'd have appointed Spackman!
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by snowbowl » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:44 pm

Di Canio's not coming, Curbishley's not coming, OSG isn't coming... Well it's gonna be Mick mcCarthy... #championshipfootballfortenyearsatleast#

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Barefoot Wanderer » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:47 pm

Why doesn't PG be patient as he said he would. Wait for applications to come in rather than chasing up and down the country targeting managers? If you chase a manager surely PG's negotiation hand is at a disadvantage, a case of PG selling to another manager instaed of a manager applying for the post and then interviewed - in which case we have the upper hand on the negotiation table not the other way around

Leave Lee, Phillips and darby in charge until the end of November and then see who has applied for the managers job and start interviewing, get someone in who wants the job enough he can be bothered applying. If nobody does apply then fine, start looking around and approach someone then, but leave the doors open first, see what happens

Vinnie Jones is considering comming back into football - he's another Roy Keane but with intellegence!

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:49 pm

It was all going so well.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:51 pm

Barefoot Wanderer wrote:Why doesn't PG be patient as he said he would. Wait for applications to come in rather than chasing up and down the country targeting managers? If you chase a manager surely PG's negotiation hand is at a disadvantage, a case of PG selling to another manager instaed of a manager applying for the post and then interviewed - in which case we have the upper hand on the negotiation table not the other way around!
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:53 pm

I'm not sure why comparing Coyles historical record with any manager is relevant.

Over his last 54 games with us we averaged less than 1ppg, conceding just about 2 per game on average.

We are looking for someone who can improve on that.

Simple as.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:54 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:I'm not sure why comparing Coyles historical record with any manager is relevant.

Over his last 54 games with us we averaged less than 1ppg, conceding just about 2 per game on average.

We are looking for someone who can improve on that.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:59 pm

Coyle in then?

After all, his long term record would suggest he'll turn it around if we're going by those parameters.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:02 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Coyle in then?

After all, his long term record would suggest he'll turn it around if we're going by those parameters.
Clearly if Eddie thought that was going to happen he'd not have sacked him.

Those are the stats the new guy, whoever he may be, has to improve on.

If Coyle had maintained anything like his career average, he'd still be here.

As it is, we need someone to improve on his last 18 months of abysmal form.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Barefoot Wanderer » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:02 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Barefoot Wanderer wrote:Why doesn't PG be patient as he said he would. Wait for applications to come in rather than chasing up and down the country targeting managers? If you chase a manager surely PG's negotiation hand is at a disadvantage, a case of PG selling to another manager instaed of a manager applying for the post and then interviewed - in which case we have the upper hand on the negotiation table not the other way around!
What does Gartside know about running a business, eh?
He doesn't strike me as a good negotiator either, which is my worry right now. He looks desperate whenever I clap eyes on him, body language is cagey and comes accross like a Conservative MP (always hiding something)

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by ChrisC » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:05 pm

Word is that PG has asked Eddie Davies for 20 million and will guarantee promotion. If true then maybe PG is trying for a higher calibre manager wise?

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