Now he's gone, who's next?

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Who would you like to see replacing Owen Coyle?

Alan Curbishley
15
12%
Paolo di Canio
9
7%
Billy Davies
9
7%
Keith Hill
5
4%
Roy Keane
1
1%
Mick McCarthy
12
9%
Gary Neville
10
8%
A rising lower-league boss (eg Micky Mellon)
11
9%
BWFC legend (eg Hierro/Gudni/McGinlay)
10
8%
Someone from abroad (eg Solskjaer)
35
27%
Someone from within (LSL/Jiminho/Didsy/Zico)
3
2%
AN Other
8
6%
 
Total votes: 128

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:04 am

Did you get the Peace Prize then too?
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:07 am

Well, as a citizen of the EU, I feel that my contribution, however small, has in someway influenced the judges to recognise my sterling efforts this year.

I felt a little overlooked back then.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:07 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:As for Souness' record, bit much to gloss over promoting Blackburn keeping them up and winning a cup with them.
OK: At Blackburn, he took them up, won a cup and spent big on players like Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole. Then he tried to break Dwight Yorke's leg. In his final season they finished 15th, and he left the club in the relegation zone. So: short-term, yes, he might achieve something. Unless he breaks his best players' legs first. Or spends £8.2m on a shit defender the club had rejected on a free transfer six months previously.
BN wrote:But although the Scottish manager, now 59, topped a straw poll run by The Bolton News yesterday with 31 per cent of the vote from McCarthy (28), Phillips (18), Freedman (17) and Appleton (7), his appointment would be considered a surprising one.
I know we were said to be after a young manager (by the bloke who now tips Souness) but it might be going too far appointing a seven-year-old... :D

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:10 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:Freedman would be expensive and a gamble. Fair play to Eddie if he goes down that route, but I can see Freedman staying loyal to Palace and at the very best, Palace insisting on big compensation.

Expensive, messy and potentially not a big attraction for Freedman.

Be surprised if thats the route we take, but then again, surprised with most things that happen at BWFC nowadays....
I would be too for the reasons you mention but my impression is that he would be less of a gamble than coyle was especially if he brings along Lawrence who has a wealth of knowledge and was a very good manager himself.
Souness would in many ways be a much bigger gamble and McCarthy perhaps a safer bet but then there is the problem of staying up which he has so not been too good at. In a way I worry about McCarthys mind set. At wolves he continually said staying up was there only target to the extent where it seemed his expectation was to scrape by. He seemed too happy to set the bar low. Nothing wrong with realism but surely he should have been talking about improving on the clubs positon and becoming mid table rather than just surviving. Compare his approach/attitiude to Pulis at stoke and it's easy to see how the two have ended up where they are.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:15 am

Lord Kangana wrote:I'm getting October 2007 all over again.
There are no universally popular options with the fans.

I think OGS was the closest but still had doubters and seemingly doesn't want it anyhow.

We're 18th in the championship.

I think its inevitable that whoever gets it will hardly set pulses racing and at best will receive a lukewarm nod of acceptance before being booed to high heaven as soon as they lose a game.

At the same time whoever it is will be well received if they take us back into the promotion challenge. And I think most fans will accept just about anyone who does that.....

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:18 am

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Freedman would be expensive and a gamble. Fair play to Eddie if he goes down that route, but I can see Freedman staying loyal to Palace and at the very best, Palace insisting on big compensation.

Expensive, messy and potentially not a big attraction for Freedman.

Be surprised if thats the route we take, but then again, surprised with most things that happen at BWFC nowadays....
I would be too for the reasons you mention but my impression is that he would be less of a gamble than coyle was especially if he brings along Lawrence who has a wealth of knowledge and was a very good manager himself.
Souness would in many ways be a much bigger gamble and McCarthy perhaps a safer bet but then there is the problem of staying up which he has so not been too good at. In a way I worry about McCarthys mind set. At wolves he continually said staying up was there only target to the extent where it seemed his expectation was to scrape by. He seemed too happy to set the bar low. Nothing wrong with realism but surely he should have been talking about improving on the clubs positon and becoming mid table rather than just surviving. Compare his approach/attitiude to Pulis at stoke and it's easy to see how the two have ended up where they are.
Not that long ago, Pulis was considered by most to be a lower league, long ball, negative, dour, old fashioned, old school, dinosaur of a football manager.

Now he's considered to be a canny, premiership, long ball, negative, dour old school manager..... :wink:

Ultimately though we just don't have the luxury of worrying about the premiership. Lets get there first.....

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CrazyHorse » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:18 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:Its clearly bollocks. If he'd been offered the job I suspect he'd have had to have said yes or no by now, and certainly as you say not blabbing it all over the media.
He's not said yes or no yet cos he's waiting to see what happens with the Blackburn and/or Burnley jobs.
I mean yes, it's probably bollocks but think about it.

Thems his choices. Bolton, Blackburn or Burnley. Do we really want a man who is so bad that his current job prospects basically mean him having to pick which is the least shit of the three backwater northern clubs he's being considered for?
Fck that. I'd rather we got Joe Kinnear in than this dick.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:20 am

I blame you for us losing OGS, CH, so you can get off that high horse and pay your penance with the rest of us.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:22 am

What about...


... Micky Adams.

Young, ambitious, good (League 2 manager of the month), cheap (?), lives close-ish, speaka da English, favours attacking flowing passing football, sound defensively.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CrazyHorse » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:24 am

Lord Kangana wrote:I blame you for us losing OGS, CH, so you can get off that high horse and pay your penance with the rest of us.
You're not pinning that on me. It was bish and BWFCi's fault we lost out on Ole Gunnar Solskjær (The dirty filthy red)
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:27 am

How long does OGS want us to wait? I've suddenly gone all patient.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:How long does OGS want us to wait? I've suddenly gone all patient.
Bolton is Not For Him. He said so.
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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:How long does OGS want us to wait? I've suddenly gone all patient.
Bolton is Not For Him. He said so.
Partial quote. I'm patient.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:32 am

What was the name of that Spanish bloke in 2007?
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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:How long does OGS want us to wait? I've suddenly gone all patient.
Bolton is Not For Him. He said so.
Partial quote. I'm patient.
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Lord Kangana wrote:What was the name of that Spanish bloke in 2007?
Juan? Carlos? Miguel? Manuel?

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:34 am

DSB knows who I mean. It turns out he'd never heard of us.
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Post by norm the jedi » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:35 am

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Ahhh! I see. Sorry, I put an errant comma in there; you need to remove the comma from after Bill Shankly. I'm agreeing with your point of view in that Souness came after the boot room dynasty. Maybe I should (thinking back on it, hindsight is wonderful) have said the first manager after a line of managers - but it's an ugly sentence construction and doesn't emphasise enough the fact that he destroyed the tradition which he came at the end of. He also actually, literally broke up the boot room, not just ending the tradition... I don't mean ending it by being part of but ending it as he came after it.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:37 am

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:Your ABS logo could also mean 'anyone but solskjaer' ;)
:D I'm hurt you didn't notice the moustache (and I know Souey shaved his off)
Lord Kangana wrote:What was the name of that Spanish bloke in 2007?
Javi Irureta, who took Deportivo into Europe, repeatedly. Their Allardyce, if you like. As you recall, I got an FFT correspondent in Spain to ask him about the rumour, and he'd never heard of us :(

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:How long does OGS want us to wait? I've suddenly gone all patient.
Bolton is Not For Him. He said so.
Partial quote. I'm patient.
OK. I'm partially patient though... how long do we give him: end of mouldy's season (Nov), end of Euro-stuff (Jan)? we could be on the way to relegation by then if it all goes tits up in the interim.
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