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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:19 pm

jaffka wrote:
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officer_dibble wrote:Can someone bung a link to.a transcript or repeat up who is itk...id like to listen but just got in
Basically, some thick as pigshit Bolton fans rang in and asked him stupid questions which he answered well.

Oh and some guy from Dan had a half decent question....... :wink:

But basically he was pretty impressive and actually seemed to have some knowledge behind it.

Time will tell of course. But I like what I heard.

Especially about putting a structure in place that allows young players to come into the side without immediately struggling under pressure.

And about how he likes to relate to players, and how modern day footballers dont react well to old school bellowing, but that you need to take a more subtle man management approach to maximise performance.
So he has a good personality then :wink:
I've no idea, I don't know him.

Seems to have knowledge and ideas though......

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by James B » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:19 pm

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by jaffka » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:21 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:Can someone bung a link to.a transcript or repeat up who is itk...id like to listen but just got in
Basically, some thick as pigshit Bolton fans rang in and asked him stupid questions which he answered well.

Oh and some guy from Dan had a half decent question....... :wink:

But basically he was pretty impressive and actually seemed to have some knowledge behind it.

Time will tell of course. But I like what I heard.

Especially about putting a structure in place that allows young players to come into the side without immediately struggling under pressure.

And about how he likes to relate to players, and how modern day footballers dont react well to old school bellowing, but that you need to take a more subtle man management approach to maximise performance.
So he has a good personality then :wink:
I've no idea, I don't know him.

Seems to have knowledge and ideas though......
:lmfao:

Here is to Duggie doing well with us :pissed:

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by officer_dibble » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:43 pm

Athers did you just bang on about corners you grumpy f*cker?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:51 pm

BL3 wrote:Thought he came across very well. He sounded a bit like Bruce Rioch in his views and expectations. I actually like the fact that he didn't see managing us as the extent of his ambitions. That suggests he expects to be successful here. No one asked him about what targets he'd been set for this season, or whether he'd been given a decent transfer budget, but then again most of the callers i heard seemed to be struggling to string a coherent sentence together.
There were bits of Allardyce and Rioch in there.

But ultimately he's very much his own man.

It's one thing talking it, being able to make it happen is the hard bit.

He does sound genuinely bright and intelligent, which I guess is a good sign.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Sponge » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:13 pm

Like what I've heard from him so far. Might be young and Scottish, but seems completely different to Coyle. Comes across as ruthless, ambitious, single-minded, but the kind of guy you'd want to work hard for. Takes himself very seriously, which I appreciate. The Ping-Pong table's probably already on Ebay.

I hope he can deliver!

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Athers » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:35 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Athers did you just bang on about corners you grumpy f*cker?
:lol: Somehow I resisted the temptation!!

I'm on at 48 minutes - if I do say so myself you can hear Jack and Dougie's relief that I wasn't asking something daft... like how he marks at corners ;)

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by ChrisC » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:48 pm

Sponge wrote:Like what I've heard from him so far. Might be young and Scottish, but seems completely different to Coyle. Comes across as ruthless, ambitious, single-minded, but the kind of guy you'd want to work hard for. Takes himself very seriously, which I appreciate. The Ping-Pong table's probably already on Ebay.

I hope he can deliver!

No need! Coyle has already messaged him for a price for cash on collection 8) ITK FACT!

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Beefheart » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:42 pm

Wow, just listened to the first 2 callers. Just wow. Embarrassing.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:35 am

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Certain players believe the club was made for them and that will certainly change,’ said Freedman.
‘We all need to understand from the beginning that you’re only as good as your last game.
‘I will make sure they turn up every day determined to get better and respect each other. If they don’t I’ll deal with them.
‘The attitude of the players can change. I have a feeling the mentality isn’t right. That has probably spread up through the club.
‘The reason is because they’ve been fighting relegation the last couple of years and were then relegated.
‘There has to be a desire for success, and I will be questioning everybody when they come into work where they are trying to head.’
I wonder who he's referring to?

But my god we've needed someone like this.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:37 am

And the cycle continues.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:49 am

Lord Kangana wrote:And the cycle continues.
Cycle of what now?

And if you don't like what you're hearing from him, perhaps you could explain why?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:05 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:And the cycle continues.
Cycle of what now?

And if you don't like what you're hearing from him, perhaps you could explain why?
If anything it sounds like a man trying to break a cycle.
Maybe it's the discipline/free ride swing cycle of different managers that LK refers to? I'm glad we're now heading back to someone who appears to think discipline and respect matter.
Interesting times ahead.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:06 am

Talk is cheap. We hear the same thing every time. We'll know by May the 4th whether "we've needed someone like this" or not.

Over to you Douggie.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:13 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Talk is cheap. We hear the same thing every time. We'll know by May the 4th whether "we've needed someone like this" or not.

Over to you Douggie.
True but at least he's making the right kind of noises. It may take some time to change the ethos at the club though and there may well be a few toy throwings and departures I suspect.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by CrazyHorse » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:13 am

Coyle helped to sell Bolton to Freedman
New Bolton manager Dougie Freedman has revealed a conversation with predecessor Owen Coyle was an important factor in him electing to take the Reebok Stadium post.

Freedman left a Crystal Palace side flying high in fourth place in the npower Championship last week to take the reins at Wanderers, where fellow Scot Coyle was sacked having taken 11 points from the first 10 matches of the campaign on the back of May's relegation from the Barclays Premier League.

But Coyle clearly harbours no ill-feeling towards the club he steered to a 2011 FA Cup semi-final, having given his compatriot a glowing assessment. Freedman said: "Owen's a good man, I've known him for many years and he spoke very highly of the club."

He continued: "He was really thrilled that I got the call. He was, without pushing me towards the job, telling me just how good a club it was - how well it's run and not to always believe what you hear in the papers with the financial side.

"He said 'you've got a good squad - they are underperforming'.

"Over the years I've known him, knowing the way I do things, he thinks I'm a good fit. He had a lot of good words to say about the club. It's nice when you can talk to an ex-manager who doesn't really muddy the water and tells you how it is. I know he's a good man so that was important in my decision."

Freedman's parallels with Coyle - a young, highly-rated but largely untried manager upon his appointment by Bolton - have not sat easily with sections of the Trotters' support, who would have preferred a more experienced head after the latter's fortunes plummeted so severely.

Additionally, Freedman leaves a club in Palace where he was a crowd hero during his playing days and allowed to operate without a significant weight of pressure or expectation, as the dark days of administration at Selhurst Park linger fresh in the memory.

As such, the move to the north west could be seen as an undue risk for a talented prospect who took on Palace as his first managerial assignment in January last year. Freedman certainly does not see it that way.

"I don't do this to prove people wrong," the 38-year-old added. "I find in life the only risk is not to take a risk, it's as simple as that. If I go through my management career never taking a risk then we may as well pack up right now. Everything we do is a risk."
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:23 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Talk is cheap. We hear the same thing every time. We'll know by May the 4th whether "we've needed someone like this" or not.

Over to you Douggie.
Of course results with be the ultimate signal.

He said himself that he's set himself a target for promotion this season. That shows at least he has some drive and will put himself under pressure.

Its clear from what Gartside said that they just want to see a big improvement, if it leads to promotion great, if not then it will have to next year.

No point getting carried away with what a manager says. Absolutely.

But he seems to have a drive and belief (I'd go as far to say arrogance) and crucially A PLAN.

I didn't know a lot about him before, but at the very least I feel he's a different kettle of fish to the last guy, and thats reassuring in the immediate future.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:36 am

Again, talk is cheap. We've already been presented with one guy who was better than Allardyce. Did you feel reassured then?

The only upside is that theres a lot less healing of the club and its fans to be done this time, just the simple job of improving a football team.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:51 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Again, talk is cheap. We've already been presented with one guy who was better than Allardyce. Did you feel reassured then?

The only upside is that theres a lot less healing of the club and its fans to be done this time, just the simple job of improving a football team.
Think the words are "cautiously, very very cautiously, optimistic".

Only way we can be I guess. He's unproven, but seems to have some qualities that we don't seem to have had at the club for a while. Time will tell.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:58 am

Talks a good game, seems to big on discipline and things being done his way.

Also identified an attitude problem with some players and a general mentality issue.

Obviously, saying he will deal with certain issues and actually doing it are two entirely different things, and a guy coming in tough on discipline will seem like a challenge to those players who feel they rule the roost no matter what. Butif he approaches it right and gets them on side then i'm sure it can be done.

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