Cardiff City

[Leyther_Matt]

Brilliant. I had a mare because West Ham were on in every pub down here, but that's made my day.

Same in Edinburgh, didn't even get a radio commentary until stoppage time. Great result, look forward to being home in time for the FLS.

[Armchair Wanderer]

Saw the first half on sky then had to somewhere with the gf. Looking forwarrd to watching highlights as first half was pretty dire. I'm glad Team Dougie made positive change(s) and did what was needed for the W.

[Harry Genshaw]

Not long back in and just thawing out. Lost my voice from shouting at our 2nd sub "Who are you and what have you done with David Ngog?"

So chuffed I bought a season ticket again this year. Despite our poor 1st half this was another hum dinger and I definitely feel I'm getting my moneys worth.

Mom was Warnock for me just ahead of Zat. If Dougie can get the best out of Mark Davies and we see more runs like he had for the 2nd goal we'll take some stopping. Great start.

[BWFC_Insane]

All this moaning about Pratley.....he's one of our few midfield players with presence and can cover ground. He's not in there to look pretty but to do the same sort of job that Gary Speed did.

For once we set our stall out to keep it tight and stay in a game and gradually build it rather than going balls out and being picked off.

As Dougie said keeping it tight and compact first half is 'his plan'. The goal they scored was soft and I need to see it again but from my seat looked like Bogdan was unsighted, but I'd still expect better. He's absolutely all at sea on crosses and the string of corners they took almost exposed him a few times. First job, find a dependable keeper. It's obvious the back four don't trust Bogdan and he has talent, but could lose confidence if he's not used more selectively.

Overall today just highlights everything that was wrong with Coyle. We played a tighter formation to firstly gain control, then opened up once we had a bit of a grip, and Dougie made the right changes at the right time. Plus there was a fantastic spirit.

Kevin Davies is pretty much finished, it's glaringly obvious. NGog made such a massive difference. Shame he got himself sent off, but can only blame himself. He could easily have had a hat trick with the disallowed goal, and then he went very close just before he was sent off.

Andrews was good in the holding role.

Dougie played the old Sam Allardyce system we have all been calling out for. It's gonna take time, but he's got a clue. And that's the most important thing.

And he seems like he will change things as necessary.

[danardif1]

I thought we were in trouble when Ngog couldn't even score when he put it in the net! But we kept fighting and got the result!

Seems that Ngog had an interesting night (I had to go out just after Petrov's pen) though, one goal, one (unfairly) disallowed effort, and two yellow cards!

[Harry Genshaw]

All this moaning about Pratley.....he's one of our few midfield players with presence and can cover ground. He's not in there to look pretty but to do the same sort of job that Gary Speed did.

For once we set our stall out to keep it tight and stay in a game and gradually build it rather than going balls out and being picked off.

As Dougie said keeping it tight and compact first half is 'his plan'. The goal they scored was soft and I need to see it again but from my seat looked like Bogdan was unsighted, but I'd still expect better. He's absolutely all at sea on crosses and the string of corners they took almost exposed him a few times. First job, find a dependable keeper. It's obvious the back four don't trust Bogdan and he has talent, but could lose confidence if he's not used more selectively.

Overall today just highlights everything that was wrong with Coyle. We played a tighter formation to firstly gain control, then opened up once we had a bit of a grip, and Dougie made the right changes at the right time. Plus there was a fantastic spirit.

Kevin Davies is pretty much finished, it's glaringly obvious. NGog made such a massive difference. Shame he got himself sent off, but can only blame himself. He could easily have had a hat trick with the disallowed goal, and then he went very close just before he was sent off.

Andrews was good in the holding role.

Dougie played the old Sam Allardyce system we have all been calling out for. It's gonna take time, but he's got a clue. And that's the most important thing.

And he seems like he will change things as necessary.

Was a great post until you said that. He was poor today granted, but has been our stand out player at home this season

[plymouth wanderer]

All this moaning about Pratley.....he's one of our few midfield players with presence and can cover ground. He's not in there to look pretty but to do the same sort of job that Gary Speed did.

For once we set our stall out to keep it tight and stay in a game and gradually build it rather than going balls out and being picked off.

As Dougie said keeping it tight and compact first half is 'his plan'. The goal they scored was soft and I need to see it again but from my seat looked like Bogdan was unsighted, but I'd still expect better. He's absolutely all at sea on crosses and the string of corners they took almost exposed him a few times. First job, find a dependable keeper. It's obvious the back four don't trust Bogdan and he has talent, but could lose confidence if he's not used more selectively.

Overall today just highlights everything that was wrong with Coyle. We played a tighter formation to firstly gain control, then opened up once we had a bit of a grip, and Dougie made the right changes at the right time. Plus there was a fantastic spirit.

Kevin Davies is pretty much finished, it's glaringly obvious. NGog made such a massive difference. Shame he got himself sent off, but can only blame himself. He could easily have had a hat trick with the disallowed goal, and then he went very close just before he was sent off.

Andrews was good in the holding role.

Dougie played the old Sam Allardyce system we have all been calling out for. It's gonna take time, but he's got a clue. And that's the most important thing.

And he seems like he will change things as necessary.

Was a great post until you said that. He was poor today granted, but has been our stand out player at home this season

[plymouth wanderer]

All this moaning about Pratley.....he's one of our few midfield players with presence and can cover ground. He's not in there to look pretty but to do the same sort of job that Gary Speed did.

For once we set our stall out to keep it tight and stay in a game and gradually build it rather than going balls out and being picked off.

As Dougie said keeping it tight and compact first half is 'his plan'. The goal they scored was soft and I need to see it again but from my seat looked like Bogdan was unsighted, but I'd still expect better. He's absolutely all at sea on crosses and the string of corners they took almost exposed him a few times. First job, find a dependable keeper. It's obvious the back four don't trust Bogdan and he has talent, but could lose confidence if he's not used more selectively.

Overall today just highlights everything that was wrong with Coyle. We played a tighter formation to firstly gain control, then opened up once we had a bit of a grip, and Dougie made the right changes at the right time. Plus there was a fantastic spirit.

Kevin Davies is pretty much finished, it's glaringly obvious. NGog made such a massive difference. Shame he got himself sent off, but can only blame himself. He could easily have had a hat trick with the disallowed goal, and then he went very close just before he was sent off.

Andrews was good in the holding role.

Dougie played the old Sam Allardyce system we have all been calling out for. It's gonna take time, but he's got a clue. And that's the most important thing.

And he seems like he will change things as necessary.

Pratley is our Gary Speed

[BWFC_Insane]

All this moaning about Pratley.....he's one of our few midfield players with presence and can cover ground. He's not in there to look pretty but to do the same sort of job that Gary Speed did.

For once we set our stall out to keep it tight and stay in a game and gradually build it rather than going balls out and being picked off.

As Dougie said keeping it tight and compact first half is 'his plan'. The goal they scored was soft and I need to see it again but from my seat looked like Bogdan was unsighted, but I'd still expect better. He's absolutely all at sea on crosses and the string of corners they took almost exposed him a few times. First job, find a dependable keeper. It's obvious the back four don't trust Bogdan and he has talent, but could lose confidence if he's not used more selectively.

Overall today just highlights everything that was wrong with Coyle. We played a tighter formation to firstly gain control, then opened up once we had a bit of a grip, and Dougie made the right changes at the right time. Plus there was a fantastic spirit.

Kevin Davies is pretty much finished, it's glaringly obvious. NGog made such a massive difference. Shame he got himself sent off, but can only blame himself. He could easily have had a hat trick with the disallowed goal, and then he went very close just before he was sent off.

Andrews was good in the holding role.

Dougie played the old Sam Allardyce system we have all been calling out for. It's gonna take time, but he's got a clue. And that's the most important thing.

And he seems like he will change things as necessary.

Pratley is our Gary Speed

Played a similar role. Clearly not as good. But who else would cover the ground he did?

He's limited, but there are times we will need it.

[plymouth wanderer]

All this moaning about Pratley.....he's one of our few midfield players with presence and can cover ground. He's not in there to look pretty but to do the same sort of job that Gary Speed did.

For once we set our stall out to keep it tight and stay in a game and gradually build it rather than going balls out and being picked off.

As Dougie said keeping it tight and compact first half is 'his plan'. The goal they scored was soft and I need to see it again but from my seat looked like Bogdan was unsighted, but I'd still expect better. He's absolutely all at sea on crosses and the string of corners they took almost exposed him a few times. First job, find a dependable keeper. It's obvious the back four don't trust Bogdan and he has talent, but could lose confidence if he's not used more selectively.

Overall today just highlights everything that was wrong with Coyle. We played a tighter formation to firstly gain control, then opened up once we had a bit of a grip, and Dougie made the right changes at the right time. Plus there was a fantastic spirit.

Kevin Davies is pretty much finished, it's glaringly obvious. NGog made such a massive difference. Shame he got himself sent off, but can only blame himself. He could easily have had a hat trick with the disallowed goal, and then he went very close just before he was sent off.

Andrews was good in the holding role.

Dougie played the old Sam Allardyce system we have all been calling out for. It's gonna take time, but he's got a clue. And that's the most important thing.

And he seems like he will change things as necessary.

Pratley is our Gary Speed

Played a similar role. Clearly not as good. But who else would cover the ground he did?

He's limited, but there are times we will need it.

Granted

When we need to shut up shop not a starter

[BWFC_Insane]

All this moaning about Pratley.....he's one of our few midfield players with presence and can cover ground. He's not in there to look pretty but to do the same sort of job that Gary Speed did.

For once we set our stall out to keep it tight and stay in a game and gradually build it rather than going balls out and being picked off.

As Dougie said keeping it tight and compact first half is 'his plan'. The goal they scored was soft and I need to see it again but from my seat looked like Bogdan was unsighted, but I'd still expect better. He's absolutely all at sea on crosses and the string of corners they took almost exposed him a few times. First job, find a dependable keeper. It's obvious the back four don't trust Bogdan and he has talent, but could lose confidence if he's not used more selectively.

Overall today just highlights everything that was wrong with Coyle. We played a tighter formation to firstly gain control, then opened up once we had a bit of a grip, and Dougie made the right changes at the right time. Plus there was a fantastic spirit.

Kevin Davies is pretty much finished, it's glaringly obvious. NGog made such a massive difference. Shame he got himself sent off, but can only blame himself. He could easily have had a hat trick with the disallowed goal, and then he went very close just before he was sent off.

Andrews was good in the holding role.

Dougie played the old Sam Allardyce system we have all been calling out for. It's gonna take time, but he's got a clue. And that's the most important thing.

And he seems like he will change things as necessary.

Was a great post until you said that. He was poor today granted, but has been our stand out player at home this season

Look he still has a part to play. But in the 1 up front system we need to play? He just doesn't have the legs anymore to play that very often IMO.

Feck the bloke is 35 he can't go on forever. I just think he needs to be used sparingly, and certainly is not someone to rely on game in game out.

[Harry Genshaw]

Now if you'd said that I'd have agreed. He needs to be used sparingly definitely. But finished? No way.

[TANGODANCER]

Didn't post before cos I can't cope with the hysteria and the despair does my head in..

Could it be that our new manager had Davo on to soften the defence up, because despite all the rubbish claims he got a lot of aimless balls fist half with nobody near him, he did his job, including being around our box when we were under pressure. N'gog came on fresh (instead of getting ten minutes) and that goal was what his confidence needed. Cardiff had a few bad spells early on, but some of their play was excellent and they're a good side as their league position testifies to, yet, despite being a goal down (and a real soft one it must be said), we went on to play well second half and win. The Chungy sub was sensible, he was on a yellow and had just got a look off the ref that said "one more and you're a goner". So was the defensive one of bringing Ream on. N'gog's yellows were both free kick fouls, neither worth a card and the ref was more than a bit of a winker for getting him sent off for fxck all, and that almost seven minutes extra a joke. Liner also wanted a kick up the arse for calling N'gog's goal offside as it wasn't even close. Bogdan needs some talking to about commanding his box, but when was leaning on a keeper for corners and free kicks allowed?

Petrov will feel a whole lot better about life after that too. N'gog's second was actually brilliant as it happened so fast, and the move leading up to it was quality. Mark Davie's run into the left corner area and getting round a couple of players to get the ball into the box was real quality. A good start for Douggie to build on. Players got time on the pitch and the result spoke for itself.

Could all be summed up by just saying....

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Comparing Pratley with Speed... jesus.

[BWFC_Insane]

Didn't post before cos I can't cope with the hysteria and the despair does my head in..

Could it be that our new manager had Davo on to soften the defence up, because despite all the rubbish claims he got a lot of aimless balls fist half with nobody near him, he did his job, including being around our box when we were under pressure. N'gog came on fresh (instead of getting ten minutes) and that goal was what his confidence needed. Cardiff had a few bad spells early on, but some of their play was excellent and they're a good side as their league position testifies to, yet, despite being a goal down (and a real soft one it must be said), we went on to play well second half and win. The Chungy sub was sensible, he was on a yellow and had just got a look off the ref that said "one more and you're a goner". So was the defensive one of bringing Ream on. N'gog's yellows were both free kick fouls, neither worth a card and the ref was more than a bit of a winker for getting him sent off for fxck all, and that almost seven minutes extra a joke. Liner also wanted a kick up the arse for calling N'gog's goal offside as it wasn't even close. Bogdan needs some talking to about commanding his box, but when was leaning on a keeper for corners and free kicks allowed?

Petrov will feel a whole lot better about life after that too. N'gog's second was actually brilliant as it happened so fast, and the move leading up to it was quality. Mark Davie's run into the left corner area and getting round a couple of players to get the ball into the box was real quality. A good start for Douggie to build on. Players got time on the pitch and the result spoke for itself.

Could all be summed up by just saying....

Davies got no service is right. But neither did Ngog but he made bad balls into good ones, through hard work and a bit of pace.

Davies also was partly at fault for their goal, as he gave the ball away just before, when we were about to break.

Biggest problem with him is when the ball goes into feet he often gives it away or slows the attack down as he tries to control it.

You're right though, Ngog did benefit from playing against tiring defenders, though I think the way he stretched the defence in behind is what any striker, including Davies must do in that system.

[Beefheart]

Can't see why people are surprised by Ngog's performance.

[BWFC_Insane]

Comparing Pratley with Speed... jesus.

I compared the role he was asked to play.....Jesus.

[norm the jedi]

Didn't post before cos I can't cope with the hysteria and the despair does my head in..

Could it be that our new manager had Davo on to soften the defence up, because despite all the rubbish claims he got a lot of aimless balls fist half with nobody near him, he did his job, including being around our box when we were under pressure. N'gog came on fresh (instead of getting ten minutes) and that goal was what his confidence needed. Cardiff had a few bad spells early on, but some of their play was excellent and they're a good side as their league position testifies to, yet, despite being a goal down (and a real soft one it must be said), we went on to play well second half and win. The Chungy sub was sensible, he was on a yellow and had just got a look off the ref that said "one more and you're a goner". So was the defensive one of bringing Ream on. N'gog's yellows were both free kick fouls, neither worth a card and the ref was more than a bit of a winker for getting him sent off for fxck all, and that almost seven minutes extra a joke. Liner also wanted a kick up the arse for calling N'gog's goal offside as it wasn't even close. Bogdan needs some talking to about commanding his box, but when was leaning on a keeper for corners and free kicks allowed?

Petrov will feel a whole lot better about life after that too. N'gog's second was actually brilliant as it happened so fast, and the move leading up to it was quality. Mark Davie's run into the left corner area and getting round a couple of players to get the ball into the box was real quality. A good start for Douggie to build on. Players got time on the pitch and the result spoke for itself.

Could all be summed up by just saying....

Davies got no service is right. But neither did Ngog but he made bad balls into good ones, through hard work and a bit of pace.

Davies also was partly at fault for their goal, as he gave the ball away just before, when we were about to break.

Biggest problem with him is when the ball goes into feet he often gives it away or slows the attack down as he tries to control it.

You're right though, Ngog did benefit from playing against tiring defenders, though I think the way he stretched the defence in behind is what any striker, including Davies must do in that system.

Sort of except Davies was alone up front and double teamed a lot.
He got a hospital pass in the run up to the start of the goal move which was more on the passer ,possibly the other Davies ? Than him
N'gog benefited from the introduction of Petov and the link up with Eagles, who was on the left wing in the first half..
He injected much needed pace but am I the only one asking 'wtf has that David N'Gog been?'

[SmokinFrazier]

I'm surprised there's not more outrage over the N'Gog sending off. The second one was a yellow, perhaps, but the first? That was a genuinely horrible decision. I know we got away with it and ending up with the three points anyway but the fact is, that was never a sending off. The first challenge was clumsy but it's the sort you'd expect the ref to laugh off. I don't even think it was a foul, the players just ran into each other.

It didn't cost us tonight but it was a ridiculous sending off and we're now without one of our best players from today in the next match.

The standards of refereeing in this division are incredibly low. I was shocked in the first few games. Now, I expect the unexpected. Some of these referees are very poor, not to mention the linesman from today who got it wrong for N'Gog's cracking goal.

[danardif1]

Didn't post before cos I can't cope with the hysteria and the despair does my head in..

Could it be that our new manager had Davo on to soften the defence up, because despite all the rubbish claims he got a lot of aimless balls fist half with nobody near him, he did his job, including being around our box when we were under pressure. N'gog came on fresh (instead of getting ten minutes) and that goal was what his confidence needed. Cardiff had a few bad spells early on, but some of their play was excellent and they're a good side as their league position testifies to, yet, despite being a goal down (and a real soft one it must be said), we went on to play well second half and win. The Chungy sub was sensible, he was on a yellow and had just got a look off the ref that said "one more and you're a goner". So was the defensive one of bringing Ream on. N'gog's yellows were both free kick fouls, neither worth a card and the ref was more than a bit of a winker for getting him sent off for fxck all, and that almost seven minutes extra a joke. Liner also wanted a kick up the arse for calling N'gog's goal offside as it wasn't even close. Bogdan needs some talking to about commanding his box, but when was leaning on a keeper for corners and free kicks allowed?

Petrov will feel a whole lot better about life after that too. N'gog's second was actually brilliant as it happened so fast, and the move leading up to it was quality. Mark Davie's run into the left corner area and getting round a couple of players to get the ball into the box was real quality. A good start for Douggie to build on. Players got time on the pitch and the result spoke for itself.

Could all be summed up by just saying....

Davies got no service is right. But neither did Ngog but he made bad balls into good ones, through hard work and a bit of pace.

Davies also was partly at fault for their goal, as he gave the ball away just before, when we were about to break.

Biggest problem with him is when the ball goes into feet he often gives it away or slows the attack down as he tries to control it.

You're right though, Ngog did benefit from playing against tiring defenders, though I think the way he stretched the defence in behind is what any striker, including Davies must do in that system.

Sort of except Davies was alone up front and double teamed a lot.
He got a hospital pass in the run up to the start of the goal move which was more on the passer ,possibly the other Davies ? Than him
N'gog benefited from the introduction of Petov and the link up with Eagles, who was on the left wing in the first half..
He injected much needed pace but am I the only one asking 'wtf has that David N'Gog been?'

That David Ngog usually only turned up for Liverpool's Uefa Cup/Europe League games...

Glad to see he's made an appearance at the 'Bok after nearly 18 months!