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We have to give the bloke a chance we'd have lost both these games under Coyle but all this Davo business is irritating he ain't 90 min per game and as someone suggests I hope to God pratters ain't doogie boys answer to our problem.
Feckin' stupidity playing Petrov anywhere but left and a arsenal feckin' no hoper making our first 11 please doogie you are supposed to be a breath of fresh air.
Jury will be out till Christmas on this and I for one ain't 100% convinced yet
Feckin' stupidity playing Petrov anywhere but left and a arsenal feckin' no hoper making our first 11 please doogie you are supposed to be a breath of fresh air.
Jury will be out till Christmas on this and I for one ain't 100% convinced yet
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Who would you have played up front other than KD last night?Hoboh wrote:We have to give the bloke a chance we'd have lost both these games under Coyle but all this Davo business is irritating he ain't 90 min per game and as someone suggests I hope to God pratters ain't doogie boys answer to our problem.
Feckin' stupidity playing Petrov anywhere but left and a arsenal feckin' no hoper making our first 11 please doogie you are supposed to be a breath of fresh air.
Jury will be out till Christmas on this and I for one ain't 100% convinced yet
In this system we need someone to win the ball, win some headers, hold it up......
Can't see Sordell or Afobe doing that based on what I've seen, and yes thats limited, but neither look like doing the battling required.
Pratley did a good job for the team. He can only pick from what he's been left with.
And I think he's along the right lines. Grinding out results is a necessity not an option.
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Sigh.. Apologies, but I'm struggling to see a lucky point at home against a team struggling for form as a good sign. Apparently Pratley played well... I think that should have (for him) at the end. Because he was fookin miles off the pace. Kevin Davies will play every game this season. You can't get tired by standing still. He was dreadful... As bad as I've seen a forward play in years.
For me, that was like stepping back to the Megson days. A point is a good result, negative, turgid, long ball stuff that I hoped we'd seen the back of.
I like Freedman, but there's no point sugar coating what was quite frankly, a shit game and performance.
Barely registered a shot on goal FFS
For me, that was like stepping back to the Megson days. A point is a good result, negative, turgid, long ball stuff that I hoped we'd seen the back of.
I like Freedman, but there's no point sugar coating what was quite frankly, a shit game and performance.
Barely registered a shot on goal FFS
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boltonboris wrote:Sigh.. Apologies, but I'm struggling to see a lucky point at home against a team struggling for form as a good sign. Apparently Pratley played well... I think that should have (for him) at the end. Because he was fookin miles off the pace. Kevin Davies will play every game this season. You can't get tired by standing still. He was dreadful... As bad as I've seen a forward play in years.
For me, that was like stepping back to the Megson days. A point is a good result, negative, turgid, long ball stuff that I hoped we'd seen the back of.
I like Freedman, but there's no point sugar coating what was quite frankly, a shit game and performance.
Barely registered a shot on goal FFS

We had 10 shots, nine on target.
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Well, no-one standing on the posts defending corners is, quite simply, a management decision ... and is bewildering.
Set pieces in attack can be worked upon & won't happen rapidly .... but poor delivery is purely inept by the player(s) taking them. Unforgivable at a professional level. That just needs some better discipline.
I'm wondering about Andrews in, instead of Spearing. Not because Andrews isn't competent, just that Spearing strikes me as being better. Maybe we will be sending him back come January, which would be a shame.
Boggers answered his critics (including me) well, with a strong display ... though it'll take more than that to silence them (me) long-term.
The defence did seem somewhat more organised. I heard Ricketts saying that (paraphrased) "we'd have lost that before. We've been working on defensive formations ... with each player knowing not just their own role, but that of the people around of them ... filling the 'grey space' so fewer gaps appear". Yes, ... this seems to be a new idea there !! ffs.
I'd like to see Eagles behing Davies/N'Gog, and to see Petrov & Lee starting wide ... on their preferred sides.
Last night would have been an OK job, if we hadn't counted to 100 before starting the season. Unfortunately we have to be as good as we all wanted to be to make up the shortfall. I'm comfortable thinking we'll end up top 6, but top 2 is a big ask.
Set pieces in attack can be worked upon & won't happen rapidly .... but poor delivery is purely inept by the player(s) taking them. Unforgivable at a professional level. That just needs some better discipline.
I'm wondering about Andrews in, instead of Spearing. Not because Andrews isn't competent, just that Spearing strikes me as being better. Maybe we will be sending him back come January, which would be a shame.
Boggers answered his critics (including me) well, with a strong display ... though it'll take more than that to silence them (me) long-term.
The defence did seem somewhat more organised. I heard Ricketts saying that (paraphrased) "we'd have lost that before. We've been working on defensive formations ... with each player knowing not just their own role, but that of the people around of them ... filling the 'grey space' so fewer gaps appear". Yes, ... this seems to be a new idea there !! ffs.
I'd like to see Eagles behing Davies/N'Gog, and to see Petrov & Lee starting wide ... on their preferred sides.
Last night would have been an OK job, if we hadn't counted to 100 before starting the season. Unfortunately we have to be as good as we all wanted to be to make up the shortfall. I'm comfortable thinking we'll end up top 6, but top 2 is a big ask.
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Don't remember 3 on target never mind 9. The LCY one first half, then Mark Davies from 20 of yards second half...CrazyHorse wrote:boltonboris wrote:Sigh.. Apologies, but I'm struggling to see a lucky point at home against a team struggling for form as a good sign. Apparently Pratley played well... I think that should have (for him) at the end. Because he was fookin miles off the pace. Kevin Davies will play every game this season. You can't get tired by standing still. He was dreadful... As bad as I've seen a forward play in years.
For me, that was like stepping back to the Megson days. A point is a good result, negative, turgid, long ball stuff that I hoped we'd seen the back of.
I like Freedman, but there's no point sugar coating what was quite frankly, a shit game and performance.
Barely registered a shot on goal FFS
We had 10 shots, nine on target.
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I'm sure its 100% improvement over Coyle but is doogie the man to takes us forwards? not sure thats all I'm saying he slipped to type last night in my honest opinion (thats relying on Davo btw)BWFC_Insane wrote:Who would you have played up front other than KD last night?Hoboh wrote:We have to give the bloke a chance we'd have lost both these games under Coyle but all this Davo business is irritating he ain't 90 min per game and as someone suggests I hope to God pratters ain't doogie boys answer to our problem.
Feckin' stupidity playing Petrov anywhere but left and a arsenal feckin' no hoper making our first 11 please doogie you are supposed to be a breath of fresh air.
Jury will be out till Christmas on this and I for one ain't 100% convinced yet
Tbh I'd dig my grannie up and stick her upfront Davo is done and surely only a short term option
In this system we need someone to win the ball, win some headers, hold it up......
lastas on show night the need to score tops that list!
Can't see Sordell or Afobe doing that based on what I've seen, and yes thats limited, but neither look like doing the battling required.
Pratley did a good job for the team. He can only pick from what he's been left with.
kin hell thats worrying if thats doogies opinion as well as yours
And I think he's along the right lines. Grinding out results is a necessity not an option. agreed we have to grind out results but thats useually for away games
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There is just no pleasing some people!!
A lot of people called for Coyle to play 4-5-1 to be more defensive to protect the goal and to build from it. DF comes in and does that and there was 20min in the first half when Leicester just pounded us and under previous managers we would have crumbled! but we didn't!! We let them have the ball until they got to 40 yards from goal and then hounded them! Hence them having so many shots from range! I think we look defensively solid for the first time in ages! Well done DF for that! From what I heard last night people around me were annoyed and booed at FT (shocking IMO) that we played one up front at home and had so few shots!! We had nine shots on targets! Which isn't bad and I think if we can play that well defensively again then the goals and the results will come!
I always remember listening to GMR when Mancini took over and all their fans kicking off as Mancini played very defensively, but last season there title was won on the back of their solid defense. We have created more chances on goal than any other team in this division and if N’gog can produce what he did on Saturday each week then I think we have a good team, in a good system and a good chance of getting up this league. More positives then negatives to take out of this week.
A lot of people called for Coyle to play 4-5-1 to be more defensive to protect the goal and to build from it. DF comes in and does that and there was 20min in the first half when Leicester just pounded us and under previous managers we would have crumbled! but we didn't!! We let them have the ball until they got to 40 yards from goal and then hounded them! Hence them having so many shots from range! I think we look defensively solid for the first time in ages! Well done DF for that! From what I heard last night people around me were annoyed and booed at FT (shocking IMO) that we played one up front at home and had so few shots!! We had nine shots on targets! Which isn't bad and I think if we can play that well defensively again then the goals and the results will come!
I always remember listening to GMR when Mancini took over and all their fans kicking off as Mancini played very defensively, but last season there title was won on the back of their solid defense. We have created more chances on goal than any other team in this division and if N’gog can produce what he did on Saturday each week then I think we have a good team, in a good system and a good chance of getting up this league. More positives then negatives to take out of this week.
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I'll have to take your word for the 2 up top bit, as I've not seen or heard anything of the sort myself.
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Only listening on the radio and following comments on here. Interesting how davo/pratley can have a good game in some eyes and be crap in others views. These are people actually watching the game.BWFC_Insane wrote:Who would you have played up front other than KD last night?Hoboh wrote:We have to give the bloke a chance we'd have lost both these games under Coyle but all this Davo business is irritating he ain't 90 min per game and as someone suggests I hope to God pratters ain't doogie boys answer to our problem.
Feckin' stupidity playing Petrov anywhere but left and a arsenal feckin' no hoper making our first 11 please doogie you are supposed to be a breath of fresh air.
Jury will be out till Christmas on this and I for one ain't 100% convinced yet
In this system we need someone to win the ball, win some headers, hold it up......
Can't see Sordell or Afobe doing that based on what I've seen, and yes thats limited, but neither look like doing the battling required.
Pratley did a good job for the team. He can only pick from what he's been left with.
And I think he's along the right lines. Grinding out results is a necessity not an option.
I totally agree with BWFCi though from what i've managed to pick up. KD started and played 90 because there were no better alternatives and Pratley did a good job and is improving. Had Ngog been available then I'm sure you'd have seen the change. I doubt KD will be playing 90 mins or starting every week once Ngog is available because Ngog is and always has been the best 451 striker we have and if he gets his eye in and starts scoring he will get more game time than KD.
It's quite possible at Blackpool that a different system may be used. Blackpool play a very open attacking game and concede a lot. Strikes me as the sort of team where you want to break up their attacks when theyve been drawn forward rather than forcing them into long balls which will encourage them to keep some shape. So who knows Spearing may well come in for Pratley and Eagles may get a freer role. Petrov may not start but may well be involved earlier and it may be the sort of game where there is more space and sordell can play a part.
Should be interesting. I cant believe some of the comments here though. We've kept a clean sheet and matched two top level teams picking up 4 points. We finally have a manager who sees the value of not conceding and doesnt make mad changes that leave us wide open.
Petrov on the right and afobe left I can only assume is down to where Freedman believed leicester were weakest. He clearly didnt believe getting to the byline and and firing it across for KD was a better option than Petrov/afobe cutting in and having a crack. Eagles had one of his off nights so why should he stay on for the full 90?
Whatever the reasoning it's a big improvement on coyle. At least there is now a recogniton that we need to stop opponents rather than just blindly go into games believing our"flair" will allow us to outscore them.And there is evidence that the manager is looking to identify weaknesses in opponents and trying to set up to exploit them.
Would be nice to think all players could be seen as having a fresh start by fans now they have a more professional management team.
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Sadly there is a culture now that is rampant at the Reebok, and even on forums internet sites that is fans not prepared to give anything a chance.Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
Only listening on the radio and following comments on here. Interesting how davo/pratley can have a good game in some eyes and be crap in others views. These are people actually watching the game.
I totally agree with BWFCi though from what i've managed to pick up. KD started and played 90 because there were no better alternatives and Pratley did a good job and is improving. Had Ngog been available then I'm sure you'd have seen the change. I doubt KD will be playing 90 mins or starting every week once Ngog is available because Ngog is and always has been the best 451 striker we have and if he gets his eye in and starts scoring he will get more game time than KD.
It's quite possible at Blackpool that a different system may be used. Blackpool play a very open attacking game and concede a lot. Strikes me as the sort of team where you want to break up their attacks when theyve been drawn forward rather than forcing them into long balls which will encourage them to keep some shape. So who knows Spearing may well come in for Pratley and Eagles may get a freer role. Petrov may not start but may well be involved earlier and it may be the sort of game where there is more space and sordell can play a part.
Should be interesting. I cant believe some of the comments here though. We've kept a clean sheet and matched two top level teams picking up 4 points. We finally have a manager who sees the value of not conceding and doesnt make mad changes that leave us wide open.
Petrov on the right and afobe left I can only assume is down to where Freedman believed leicester were weakest. He clearly didnt believe getting to the byline and and firing it across for KD was a better option than Petrov/afobe cutting in and having a crack. Eagles had one of his off nights so why should he stay on for the full 90?
Whatever the reasoning it's a big improvement on coyle. At least there is now a recogniton that we need to stop opponents rather than just blindly go into games believing our"flair" will allow us to outscore them.And there is evidence that the manager is looking to identify weaknesses in opponents and trying to set up to exploit them.
Would be nice to think all players could be seen as having a fresh start by fans now they have a more professional management team.
They want instant results, and not only that, they want instantly thrilling attacking performances (with clean sheets as well).
When Freedman took over we were 18th in the championship, which suggested things were not rosy. He's had two games against the top 4 sides in the division and we get 4 points. Thats a decent start. We've got another hard game on Saturday and anything from that will be excellent at this stage. We are 5 points off the play-offs.
We have a manager who has clearly instilled some organisation. I'm not sure at this stage what more he could have done.
If our wingers had performed yesterday we may well have won the game. As it is both were disappointing and their delivery into the box was incredibly poor.
The system is set up for LCY/Eagles to shine out wide and create chances. They didn't on the whole. But at least we have a system now that will let our "flair" players have a platform, when they are on form.
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Prufrock wrote:we'd have lost that under Coyle
Let me guess what the response will be when we actually lose a game. 'We'd have lost more heavily under Coyle'.Hoboh wrote:we'd have lost both these games under Coyle
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If we lose the next one 0-2 then under Coyle we would have lost 0-4. bleedin' obvious innit?BL3 wrote:Prufrock wrote:we'd have lost that under CoyleLet me guess what the response will be when we actually lose a game. 'We'd have lost more heavily under Coyle'.Hoboh wrote:we'd have lost both these games under Coyle
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Absolutely! Surprised you need to ask as you already know the correct answer. Nothing to do with not liking coyle etc just the little thing about him not being very good at that management lark.You know not organising the defence, trying to outscore team swhen we have no goalscorers,falling out with players and failing to motivate them. I dont think many of the players believed in coyle anymore.BL3 wrote:Prufrock wrote:we'd have lost that under CoyleLet me guess what the response will be when we actually lose a game. 'We'd have lost more heavily under Coyle'.Hoboh wrote:we'd have lost both these games under Coyle
It was time for him to go,
Rather than saying we'd have lost that under coyle perhaps we should be saying we'd have conceded more and probably not managed to score as many as our opponents.And we sure as hell would have been dead unlucky in doing so.

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Statistically speaking we'd have conceded one goal, probably 2 and maybe even 3 had Coyle been in charge last night. Not a stretch to imagine that we would have lost under Coyle...
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Not just a stretch, more like a bang on certainty.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Statistically speaking we'd have conceded one goal, probably 2 and maybe even 3 had Coyle been in charge last night. Not a stretch to imagine that we would have lost under Coyle...
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Yep and cardiff being quite prolific would have made hay against an entertaining coyle 11Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Statistically speaking we'd have conceded one goal, probably 2 and maybe even 3 had Coyle been in charge last night. Not a stretch to imagine that we would have lost under Coyle...
Sometimes if you turn a statement round it's absurdity comes clear. How often do you believe we will find ourselves saying we'd have won that one under coyle?
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I was trying to break it gently to the fellaLost Leopard Spot wrote:Not just a stretch, more like a bang on certainty.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Statistically speaking we'd have conceded one goal, probably 2 and maybe even 3 had Coyle been in charge last night. Not a stretch to imagine that we would have lost under Coyle...

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Ah, me and my clod hoppers.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:I was trying to break it gently to the fellaLost Leopard Spot wrote:Not just a stretch, more like a bang on certainty.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Statistically speaking we'd have conceded one goal, probably 2 and maybe even 3 had Coyle been in charge last night. Not a stretch to imagine that we would have lost under Coyle...You know he is a bit sensitive where Coyle is concerned.
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